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Celerity

(54,404 posts)
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 08:25 AM Apr 2025

American Suicide



Mere months into his term, Trump wrecks global trade, abandons allies, empowers rivals, pushing America towards collapse.

https://www.socialeurope.eu/american-suicide



It has been only two and a half months since Donald Trump returned to the White House, but the world has already fundamentally changed. Trump is rapidly undermining US trade relations and the global system of free trade that the United States helped establish after 1945. His bid to “liberate” the US economy with escalating tariffs represents an essential change from the more modest trade-war tactics deployed during his first term. According to the Yale Budget Lab, the average US tariff rate is now at its highest level since 1909.

Trump is also casting doubt on America’s longstanding alliances, not least NATO and the security guarantees that it represents. In late February, he publicly humiliated Volodymyr Zelensky in the Oval Office, then showed the Ukrainian president the door. Since then, US support for Ukraine has effectively ended, giving Russian President Vladimir Putin a stronger hand than he has had in years. Trump has made no effort to hide the fact that his sympathies lie with Russia, the aggressor, rather than with Ukraine, the beleaguered democracy that has been fighting for its freedom and sovereignty.

Trump has also suggested that the US should take control of Gaza, expel its population to other Arab states, and turn the enclave into a resort. And he continues to talk about annexing Canada, Greenland, and the Panama Canal. Apparently, it is not enough for the US to control most of the Western Hemisphere; Trump wants to own it, too. While everyone expected turmoil, few anticipated brazen imperialism. Pundits and commentators have long interpreted “America First” as a revival of the isolationist movement that was active before World War II, but Trump seems to have something else in mind.

He wants a world where a handful of global superpowers compete – violently if necessary – for resources, raw materials, and spheres of influence. On the home front, he has allowed the world’s richest man, Elon Musk – the vanguard leader of a Silicon Valley-based techno-fascist movement – to gut the American state under the guise of cost-cutting, elimination of waste and fraud, and deregulation. The mass firings and demolition of entire agencies will have lasting consequences, which are painful to consider. The gutting of USAID alone may result in hundreds of thousands of deaths in Africa and other vulnerable regions of the world.

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American Suicide (Original Post) Celerity Apr 2025 OP
Outstanding analysis and summation. Kid Berwyn Apr 2025 #1
K&R Solly Mack Apr 2025 #2
Great essay. sop Apr 2025 #3
As I've said before... GiqueCee Apr 2025 #13
The GOP is done with democracy. It no longer serves their purposes. Irish_Dem Apr 2025 #16
"If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. sop Apr 2025 #17
Exactly. This is where we are now. Irish_Dem Apr 2025 #20
Yeah, but I wish we would stop calling them Dark n Stormy Knight Apr 2025 #27
It certainly does represent a suicide. NNadir Apr 2025 #4
Krasnov had a dysfunctional childhood. LastDemocratInSC Apr 2025 #21
I actually don't care how he became a psychopath or any... NNadir Apr 2025 #22
So how long is America going to allow this? mdbl Apr 2025 #5
As long as the GOP has complete control Stuckinthebush Apr 2025 #7
Nicely put n/t birdographer Apr 2025 #8
It is not just a handful. Irish_Dem Apr 2025 #18
Wait! H2O Man Apr 2025 #28
Until the blue states have had enough Tansy_Gold Apr 2025 #19
Bingo! Mysterian Apr 2025 #25
Unless that Democratic victory is sufficient to Tansy_Gold Apr 2025 #29
That's what I'm talking about Mysterian Apr 2025 #30
Krasnov is stomping on the sand castles the other kids made at the beach. LastDemocratInSC Apr 2025 #6
But it's really murder/suicide, because half of us are collateral damage! FailureToCommunicate Apr 2025 #9
Must read malaise Apr 2025 #10
Well said.. he puts it out there. mountain grammy Apr 2025 #11
It is suicide. dalton99a Apr 2025 #12
Comrade got his supporters to poison themselves during COVID IronLionZion Apr 2025 #14
Murder is the word IbogaProject Apr 2025 #15
Thanks for sharing. yellow dahlia Apr 2025 #23
All to please stupid fucking morons like Alex Jones, Sean Hannity and Charlie Kirk. Initech Apr 2025 #24
I fear what our future holds. HorsesflyHigh Apr 2025 #26

Kid Berwyn

(24,374 posts)
1. Outstanding analysis and summation.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 08:33 AM
Apr 2025
From Herr Fischer:

After all, the US gains nothing from hostility toward Europe. By alienating its allies, it is destroying one of the main pillars of its superpower status. For decades, “the West” – an unrivaled geopolitical framework of military alliances and trade relationships – served as a force multiplier for US power and influence. It is why America handily won the Cold War and grew stronger than any power in history. Who benefits from throwing all that away? Only Russia and China, which have been quietly watching and waiting as America commits suicide.

We can already say that there will be no return to the previous international order. Trump has destroyed trust in the US for at least a generation. American commitments are no longer credible. The country’s institutions – including major media outlets, universities, and law firms – are crumbling before our eyes. The US will still enjoy a unique geographical position between the Atlantic and the Pacific, but the rest of the world will know that Trumpism has become an enduring feature of its politics.

The disappearance of “the West” and the collapse of American leadership (and democracy) will dramatically alter world politics in the twenty-first century. Order will give way to chaos, and the risk of war will increase as rival superpowers jockey for position. American society itself will remain polarized, consumed by irrationalism, and prone to conspiracy theories.

In his 1935 novel It Can’t Happen Here, Sinclair Lewis imagines the rise of a dictator to mirror the Fascist and Nazi regimes in Europe. Now, 90 years later, his dystopia is materializing. Like Goethe following the Battle of Valmy in 1792, when the Prussian army retreated before the French revolutionary forces, we are witnessing the start of a new era in world history. The pain, hardship, and injustice will get only worse from here.

sop

(18,605 posts)
3. Great essay.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 08:49 AM
Apr 2025

"Trump’s policies, both foreign and domestic, increasingly seem to be geared toward weakening America, or even toward its self-destruction." I cannot understand why so many in the Republican party are allowing this to happen.

GiqueCee

(4,243 posts)
13. As I've said before...
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 10:31 AM
Apr 2025

... Republicans are all in for the total destruction of democracy; they've always hated the very concept, and now they don't have to hide it anymore. When Putin's puppet is through blowing up the country that let him get richer than he ever deserved to be, they want to rule over the ashes of whatever's left.

Irish_Dem

(81,242 posts)
16. The GOP is done with democracy. It no longer serves their purposes.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 11:17 AM
Apr 2025

Their goal is permanent total power and control.
And access to all US assets and resources.

sop

(18,605 posts)
17. "If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 11:21 AM
Apr 2025

They will reject democracy.” ― David Frum

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,484 posts)
27. Yeah, but I wish we would stop calling them
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 02:33 AM
Apr 2025

"conservatives." They are dangerous radicals. Nothing conservative about them.

LastDemocratInSC

(4,242 posts)
21. Krasnov had a dysfunctional childhood.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 12:26 PM
Apr 2025

His older sister cared for him when his parents couldn't or wouldn't. His mother had health issues and his father was an authoritarian. He didn't get the attention and love that all children crave and need. He seems to resent that many people are happy and content and can achieve things beyond his abilities. His solution (my speculation) is to destroy the things that empower those he resents in an attempt to drag them, and the rest of us, down to his level of misery.

It's a sad commentary on our nation that so many lack the judgement required to ensure that we have sane, reasonable and stable political leadership.

NNadir

(38,034 posts)
22. I actually don't care how he became a psychopath or any...
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 12:53 PM
Apr 2025

...other aspect of his psychopathology.

What matters is that our country is sick enough to place such a weak and flawed criminal where he is.

mdbl

(8,650 posts)
5. So how long is America going to allow this?
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 09:49 AM
Apr 2025

It's not patriotic to let a handful of people kill your society.

Stuckinthebush

(11,203 posts)
7. As long as the GOP has complete control
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 09:54 AM
Apr 2025

I don't see what we can do other than point out the truth. And get congress back ASAP.

Irish_Dem

(81,242 posts)
18. It is not just a handful.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 11:23 AM
Apr 2025

Half the US congress, the court system, the Supreme Court, the media.
And the billionaires and CEOs.

We are outnumbered.

H2O Man

(79,048 posts)
28. Wait!
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 02:39 AM
Apr 2025

I agreed with everything you said until your last sentence. I think Jim Morrison was correct when he sang, "They've got the guns, we've got the numbers. Gonna win -- yeah, we're taking over."

Tansy_Gold

(18,167 posts)
19. Until the blue states have had enough
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 11:26 AM
Apr 2025

The Constitution was written to enable chattel slavery. The "founding fathers" needed to protect their wealth.

The Civil War was fought over it, and the "blue" states won, but they still wanted to preserve the marriage the Union, so they capitulated to the (former) slave states once again.

There's a map going around that shows California's 2 senators compared to the 46 senators representing other states with the same population. The senate is the "upper" house, the more powerful body of the legislature. There is no breaking the senate's stranglehold, because even if Democrats get legislation passed in the lower house, the fascists can filibuster and block it or change it at a later date.

We are still under the thumb of the slave states and their white christian male supremacy ideology. "Kick out the brown people! Don't let women vote! Put their children to work (while ours sit on their asses and play video games). Starve the poor! Let the disabled die!"

This has been their plan all along. It was their plan 250 years ago, and they're fighting to keep it.

I'm not in a blue state, and at my age it's not likely I ever will be. But for my children and grandchildren, this is a toxic, abusive marriage that needs to end in divorce if anyone is to survive.

Mysterian

(6,482 posts)
25. Bingo!
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 11:24 PM
Apr 2025

Fundamental flaws in our constitution (electoral college, undemocratic apportionment of senators) eventually doomed the republic. The only way I see to get out of this mess is for the eligible people who did not vote to see the error of their ways, get involved, and get on our side to end republican control forever.

Tansy_Gold

(18,167 posts)
29. Unless that Democratic victory is sufficient to
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 08:38 AM
Apr 2025

amend the Constitution, the threat will always be there. Red states will never vote themselves out of power by approving amendments to change the Senate and or eliminate the Electoral College. We essentially have minority rule in this country, and that's not likely to change if the system itself doesn't change.

Mysterian

(6,482 posts)
30. That's what I'm talking about
Sat Apr 12, 2025, 10:46 AM
Apr 2025

A paradigm shift. Normally it requires a major catastrophe like the Civil War.

IronLionZion

(51,267 posts)
14. Comrade got his supporters to poison themselves during COVID
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 11:04 AM
Apr 2025

so he's a real stable genius for sure, kind of like Rasputin. Why anybody still believes his lies is beyond me. But that's half of America apparently.

IbogaProject

(5,911 posts)
15. Murder is the word
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 11:04 AM
Apr 2025

The wealthy are so renoved from us and by what I can tell hopped up on enabling drugs like Xanex that they pushed us to here. They lost the idea they need consumers for their investments and are blinded by short term next quarter thinking. The entire top 2%, and their international ilk who Bernie rants about are to blame. We shouldn't let them off and just go after their fall guys like Trump or their CEOs.

Initech

(108,772 posts)
24. All to please stupid fucking morons like Alex Jones, Sean Hannity and Charlie Kirk.
Fri Apr 11, 2025, 11:18 PM
Apr 2025

Don't listen to that shit. It is poison for your mind.

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