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allegorical oracle

(6,146 posts)
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 06:57 PM Apr 2025

British actress Jean Marsh died today. She starred as "Rose" in the

PBS series Upstairs, Downstairs. She was 90 and is said to have died from dementia.

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British actress Jean Marsh died today. She starred as "Rose" in the (Original Post) allegorical oracle Apr 2025 OP
Very sad. I'm sorry about this. Scrivener7 Apr 2025 #1
I could be mistaken (I so often am!), but I think she also cocreated Upstairs, Downstairs DavidDvorkin Apr 2025 #2
Yes -- you're correct. I was a huge fan of the original series that spanned many allegorical oracle Apr 2025 #3
You are correct, Thank you for posting. John1956PA Apr 2025 #5
70's version of Downton Abbey. Sneederbunk Apr 2025 #4
No choie Apr 2025 #7
Upstairs, Downstairs focussed on real people Retrograde Apr 2025 #20
Absolutely. UD is the apex of the television era. NameAlreadyTaken Apr 2025 #25
Right you are: "Upstairs Downstairs" was much better than "Downtown Abbey." Paladin Apr 2025 #30
Sad news 😓 R-I-P Jean 🙏 nt Raine Apr 2025 #6
Oh no!! I grew up with that show . . . hatrack Apr 2025 #8
Some British comedy show did a parody of U/D and Downton Abbey DavidDvorkin Apr 2025 #9
Remember the Twilight Zone episode "The Lonely"? Prof. Toru Tanaka Apr 2025 #10
She was also a recurring player in the legendary BBC series Morbius Apr 2025 #11
I loved that show. I think it was my first real introduction to British shows Demovictory9 Apr 2025 #12
Me too NameAlreadyTaken Apr 2025 #26
There was an "Upstairs Downstairs" reboot maybe 15 years ago Warpy Apr 2025 #13
UpDowns was on when I was too young to appreciate it BaronChocula Apr 2025 #14
One of the best at her craft and moniss Apr 2025 #15
We've watched that entire series at least 3 times - it is simply wonderful and unique and Jean Marsh was a NewHendoLib Apr 2025 #16
"Upstairs, Downstairs" was must-see TV in our family. LisaM Apr 2025 #17
Lansbury was so wonderful about including her previous co-stars in her "Murder She allegorical oracle Apr 2025 #31
Yes, I watch it in reruns a lot, and that's fun. LisaM Apr 2025 #32
"" AllaN01Bear Apr 2025 #18
Cross gently, dear lady. calimary Apr 2025 #19
A beautiful lady. John1956PA Apr 2025 #21
As well as appearing in a vast number of TV productions, both in the UK and the US, she also had quite a film career Emrys Apr 2025 #22
RIP area51 Apr 2025 #23
This is sad news NameAlreadyTaken Apr 2025 #24
There was a reboot of Upstairs Downstairs canetoad Apr 2025 #27
Dementia is a terrible way to die with the brain rotting away leaving once was a unique human elocs Apr 2025 #28
So sad to hear. It is a difficult disease for everyone concerned. (hugs.) allegorical oracle Apr 2025 #29

DavidDvorkin

(20,484 posts)
2. I could be mistaken (I so often am!), but I think she also cocreated Upstairs, Downstairs
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 07:02 PM
Apr 2025

And wrote many of the scripts.

Same for the sequel, which wasn't a success.

allegorical oracle

(6,146 posts)
3. Yes -- you're correct. I was a huge fan of the original series that spanned many
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 07:04 PM
Apr 2025

episodes. (Only the older ones of us recall that series, I suspect.)

She co-writ the series with fellow actress Eileen Atkins (I've most recently seen on Doc Martin).

Retrograde

(11,373 posts)
20. Upstairs, Downstairs focussed on real people
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 10:00 PM
Apr 2025

both the servants and the people they served (initially, the employer was not titled, although he was a government minister IIRC). Downton Abbey focused on the aristocrats, with a few token nods to the servants. UD dealt with real people and their problems; DA dealt with caricatures (I still watched it for the scenery porn, though)

Paladin

(32,244 posts)
30. Right you are: "Upstairs Downstairs" was much better than "Downtown Abbey."
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 07:56 AM
Apr 2025

RIP, Jean Marsh. Great actress.

hatrack

(64,212 posts)
8. Oh no!! I grew up with that show . . .
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 07:43 PM
Apr 2025

I always liked Rose, a genuinely sympathetic character. I only learned years later that Jean Marsh was key to creating the show.

DavidDvorkin

(20,484 posts)
9. Some British comedy show did a parody of U/D and Downton Abbey
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 08:02 PM
Apr 2025

Titled (I think) "Upstairs Downstairs Abbey."

Found it on YouTube:


Morbius

(887 posts)
11. She was also a recurring player in the legendary BBC series
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 08:05 PM
Apr 2025

Doctor Who!

She played several characters but none more memorable than Sara Kingdom in the first doctor adventure The Daleks Master Plan. Only two parts of this originally 12 part series remain, but in the lore of the show, space agent and quasi-companion Sara Kingdom looms large.



RIP Jean Marsh, OBE.

Warpy

(114,375 posts)
13. There was an "Upstairs Downstairs" reboot maybe 15 years ago
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 08:37 PM
Apr 2025

that had to be wrapped up a bit prematurely when Marsh had a stroke. She had tried to continue, but her speech remained very slow and labored. It was a shame, it featured the same sandards of good writing and acting with a whole new cast, covering the time leading up to WWII. It might still be out there on DVD.

Marsh's character of an older and more experienced Rose was repriesed.

She was a wonderful actress and will be missed. Her character was one of the more memorable in a very long running series

BaronChocula

(4,006 posts)
14. UpDowns was on when I was too young to appreciate it
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 08:42 PM
Apr 2025

But the first thing I thought of when I saw Jean Marsh's name in the post was that.

moniss

(8,653 posts)
15. One of the best at her craft and
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 08:55 PM
Apr 2025

the series was extraordinary and should be replayed on PBS in it's entirety. Many important things were covered in that series.

NewHendoLib

(61,562 posts)
16. We've watched that entire series at least 3 times - it is simply wonderful and unique and Jean Marsh was a
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 08:59 PM
Apr 2025

major reason why. Her acting was consistently remarkable.

LisaM

(29,475 posts)
17. "Upstairs, Downstairs" was must-see TV in our family.
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 09:23 PM
Apr 2025

We loved it, and she was excellent in it.

She did an episode of "Murder, She Wrote". She and Angela Lansbury were fabulous together. (Actually, Ann Meara was in that episode, too - some formidable talent all together).

allegorical oracle

(6,146 posts)
31. Lansbury was so wonderful about including her previous co-stars in her "Murder She
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 09:53 AM
Apr 2025

Wrote" series. Recall a couple of episodes starring Hurd Hatfield, with whom she'd appeared in "The Picture of Dorian Gray." Another lovely, gracious person.

LisaM

(29,475 posts)
32. Yes, I watch it in reruns a lot, and that's fun.
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 10:37 AM
Apr 2025

She also reunited people who'd been together in other shows. Erin Moran and Tom Bosley in one episode, and Van Johnson and June Allyson in another. There are many more examples, but those are off the top of my head. She also has Betty Garrett driving a big old 1940s car in one episode that I swear was poking a little bit of fun at "On the Town".

Hurd Hatfield was good in both his episodes, stole a lot of scenes.

Emrys

(8,927 posts)
22. As well as appearing in a vast number of TV productions, both in the UK and the US, she also had quite a film career
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 10:31 PM
Apr 2025

For instance, she played the traitor Joanna Grey in the 1976 classic film The Eagle Has Landed.



Whatever the part, she was always a beauty. Lots about her on IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0550577/?ref_=fn_all_nme_1

NameAlreadyTaken

(2,229 posts)
24. This is sad news
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 10:52 PM
Apr 2025

She was one of the co-creators of "Upstairs, Downstairs," which was television's peak moment.

canetoad

(20,166 posts)
27. There was a reboot of Upstairs Downstairs
Sun Apr 13, 2025, 11:03 PM
Apr 2025

For two series from 2010 to 2012. Stars were Jean Marsh and Eileen Atkins, the original 1971 series creators alongside Keely Hawes, Clare Foy, Ed Stoppard and others. In the reboot, set in 1936. Jean Marsh becomes housekeeper of the new household.

 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
28. Dementia is a terrible way to die with the brain rotting away leaving once was a unique human
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 03:22 AM
Apr 2025

being just a husk and shell of what they once were.
My mother spent the last 15 years of her life in a nursing home, slowly dying of Alzheimer's.
When her physical body finally shut down, her mind was long gone.
But we judge what they are experiencing from our own perspective. Do we really know?
Because nobody afflicted with dementia has ever recovered to tell us what they had experienced.

I once visited my mother and she was sleeping and I decided to let her sleep because I thought that maybe she was in a better place in her dreams so why awake her to a confusing reality? Besides, at that point I was a stranger to her.

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