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turbinetree

(26,034 posts)
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 01:44 PM Apr 14

'Homegrowns are next': Trump asks El Salvador's president to build prisons for US citizens

By Travis Gettys
Published April 14, 2025 1:17 PM ET

President Donald Trump told El Salvador's president Nayib Bukele to build more prisons to hold U.S. citizens.

The U.S. president declared his willingness last week to send Americans to a notorious prison where his administration has sent alleged gang members – as well as a Maryland man who was deported by mistake – and he was caught on video urging Bukele to get ready for "homegrown criminals" to join them behind bars.

"Homegrown criminals are next," Trump told Bukele. "I said homegrowns are next, homegrowns are next. You've got to build about five more places. It's not big enough."

https://www.rawstory.com/will-trump-deport-american-citizens/

Hey United States Supreme Court and Maga United States Senate/ United States Maga Congress................what do you think now...............do you not think that you own your decision to this terrorist POS.............because you fuckers failed in your simple job description to have him never be in public office again.................MFers..............and now innocents who do nothing wrong are next on the list...............

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'Homegrowns are next': Trump asks El Salvador's president to build prisons for US citizens (Original Post) turbinetree Apr 14 OP
I offer this again... markie Apr 14 #1
I agree................and ever supposed law abiding person from the Congress, Senate and the US Supreme Court own this turbinetree Apr 14 #6
I hope that Roberts is proud of his wiseass "Offical Acts" bullshit now. Klarkashton Apr 14 #2
So is he paving the way intrepidity Apr 14 #3
If he is allowed to LPBBEAR Apr 14 #29
Is this an official act bucolic_frolic Apr 14 #4
This says more about who we are then about who the criminals are Walleye Apr 14 #5
I prefer to remain free, such as we were. Magoo48 Apr 14 #46
We gonna need it Traildogbob Apr 14 #7
G.O.P. Gulag-Gangsters against America BoRaGard Apr 14 #8
Let's Start with the J6'ers Deep State Witch Apr 14 #9
That's shithole musk repulbicans.................... Lovie777 Apr 14 #10
gop congress andscrotus won't do anything. They don't want to be sent to El Salvador either. We be screwed. chicoescuela Apr 14 #11
Don't Forget Milquetoast Garland Chasstev365 Apr 14 #39
you are correct. how could I forget about him? just as frickin guilty and he might be sent to El Salvador just to make chicoescuela Apr 14 #41
The Archipelago Rises from the Sea... Prairie Gates Apr 14 #12
Narkina 5 0rganism Apr 14 #13
Kick dalton99a Apr 14 #14
No different than sending German citizens to death camps in Poland. CincyDem Apr 14 #15
Bingo LSparkle Apr 14 #34
Let's hope that all those involved, along with all of the elected and non-elected enablers Scalded Nun Apr 14 #16
And let's remember: DISSENT will be a crime as authoritarian power increases Martin Eden Apr 14 #17
Dissent is the way we survive. We must now consider the best ways to protect ourselves. Magoo48 Apr 14 #45
"You've got to" progressoid Apr 14 #18
'El Salvador's Offer to House U.S. Prisoners Is Illegal, It is illegal to expatriate U.S. citizens for a crime.' sop Apr 14 #19
Since this is now an international illegal scandal and obvious Mike 03 Apr 14 #52
I was wondering, how could they be so cruel to the Maryland man and ecstatic Apr 14 #20
Nah. They think he's brown. Maru Kitteh Apr 14 #24
They know he is innocent, they admitted this already. Irish_Dem Apr 14 #31
Yep ... we all have that fetid skunk smell now ... LSparkle Apr 14 #36
When is he going to have his crown? YoshidaYui Apr 14 #21
I though Trump and his tribe were all for "Made in the USA" labels. Ping Tung Apr 14 #22
I am considering buying a gun. Norbert Apr 14 #23
Same Chicagogrl1 Apr 14 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author maxsolomon Apr 14 #32
Well, some can offer better advice, but Dan Apr 14 #28
For what purpose? maxsolomon Apr 14 #33
A least a sling shot EarthAbides Apr 14 #35
Agree LSparkle Apr 14 #37
And the laughter in the room that followed his remarks is chilling. chia Apr 14 #26
Time for a change in actions LPBBEAR Apr 14 #27
Don't give up!!! There is a way. Unity In Voice Apr 14 #49
I always vote Blue....always LPBBEAR Apr 14 #53
I agree with you 100%, But We the people have to try something!! I have a letter to the Supreme Court. Unity In Voice Apr 15 #58
I wouldn't put it passed Roberts, Thomas, and Alito BonnieJW Apr 15 #59
Prisons where poor people cannot afford to send Ilsa Apr 14 #30
That's us. orangecrush Apr 14 #38
Will these prisons be large enough.... SergeStorms Apr 14 #40
I know a 34 count convicted felon that we can Emile Apr 14 #42
Authoritarianism Iamscrewed Apr 14 #43
Wow! Iggo Apr 14 #44
Response. Flood the Supreme Court Unity In Voice Apr 14 #47
Welcome to DU! Mossfern Apr 14 #50
Thank you - Please do Unity In Voice Apr 14 #51
For clarification ... krkaufman Apr 14 #48
These two assholes are scary LetMyPeopleVote Apr 14 #54
That they are ....................we are now living within this country a international criminal cabal.............. turbinetree Apr 14 #55
+1 dalton99a Apr 14 #56
No words. Dark n Stormy Knight Apr 14 #57
Trump is a homegrown. If his birth certificate is genuine. thought crime Apr 15 #60

markie

(23,326 posts)
1. I offer this again...
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 01:47 PM
Apr 14
https://bsky.app/profile/gtconway.bsky.social/post/3lml4nodfic2q

from George Conway
"I hate to say this, and it gives me the chills just to think it, but CECOT is on (and not a short way down) the road to Auschwitz"

turbinetree

(26,034 posts)
6. I agree................and ever supposed law abiding person from the Congress, Senate and the US Supreme Court own this
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 01:49 PM
Apr 14

if my WWII grandparents where alive today............they would be grabbing pitchforks you might say...............

intrepidity

(8,266 posts)
3. So is he paving the way
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 01:48 PM
Apr 14

for some future law-abiding president to send *him* and his collaborators there?

LPBBEAR

(526 posts)
29. If he is allowed to
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 03:13 PM
Apr 14

continue down the path he is following their won't be any other future Presidents to send him and his collaborators anywhere. That is his plan.

bucolic_frolic

(49,977 posts)
4. Is this an official act
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 01:48 PM
Apr 14

that violates the Bill of Rights? Ignoring civil rights to lock away political prisoners in foreign jails?

Walleye

(39,796 posts)
5. This says more about who we are then about who the criminals are
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 01:49 PM
Apr 14

I remember an expression we used to have “it’s a free country“.

Magoo48

(6,247 posts)
46. I prefer to remain free, such as we were.
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 04:14 PM
Apr 14

We sorta sat upon the sidelines all the while our votes were becoming more and more impotent. We are approaching, put up or shut up time, apparently, sooner rather than later.

Traildogbob

(11,007 posts)
7. We gonna need it
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 01:50 PM
Apr 14

To house every fucking GQP traitor and thief. Noem needs to share a cell with Miller and Bannon.

chicoescuela

(1,965 posts)
11. gop congress andscrotus won't do anything. They don't want to be sent to El Salvador either. We be screwed.
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 01:52 PM
Apr 14

Thank you mitch and john roberts.
Thank you very much

chicoescuela

(1,965 posts)
41. you are correct. how could I forget about him? just as frickin guilty and he might be sent to El Salvador just to make
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 03:58 PM
Apr 14

a point.

0rganism

(25,014 posts)
13. Narkina 5
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 02:00 PM
Apr 14

It's like the F47 crew watched the Andor series and said, "Oh yeah, that Palpatine guy, he's got some Great ideas!"

"Life imitates art": the unfactored risk of publishing dystopian sci-fi.

CincyDem

(7,081 posts)
15. No different than sending German citizens to death camps in Poland.
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 02:07 PM
Apr 14

Part of the “out of sight, out of mind” playbook.

Scalded Nun

(1,389 posts)
16. Let's hope that all those involved, along with all of the elected and non-elected enablers
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 02:35 PM
Apr 14

remember what is happening, for when this outrage ends (and it will end), they know what they should expect for themselves (and maybe even their families).

No sympathy for a single one of them.

Thank you John Roberts and Mitch McConnell. This could have never happened without you.

Martin Eden

(14,176 posts)
17. And let's remember: DISSENT will be a crime as authoritarian power increases
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 02:37 PM
Apr 14

We're only in the early stages of defying court orders.

sop

(13,832 posts)
19. 'El Salvador's Offer to House U.S. Prisoners Is Illegal, It is illegal to expatriate U.S. citizens for a crime.'
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 02:41 PM
Apr 14

"So what are the conditions like inside the prison in El Salvador where people are likely to be sent? The Center for the Confinement of Terrorism (CECOT), a 40,000-capacity megaprison 45 miles from the capital San Salvador that opened in 2023, is a place where prisoners receive no visitors, do not participate in any rehabilitative or educational programming, and do not spend any time outside. The prison was constructed as part of Bukele’s campaign to eliminate crime and gangs. The result: more than 84,000 arrests in the country since March of 2022, almost entirely without due process. Bukele suspended basic rights such as access to attorneys and the right to a speedy trial through his 'State of Exception,' making it simpler to arrest, prosecute, and imprison suspected gang members."

"As of January 2024, El Salvador had the highest incarceration rate on the planet, with more than 1,000 people in prison per 100,000 residents. Notably, Senator Ossoff, in his letter to Rubio and Bondi, pointed out that the U.S. State Department warns U.S. citizens who travel to the country about Bukele’s declaration of a 'State of Exception' and notes that those released from some of the country’s prisons 'reported a lack of food and potable water and being limited to two tortillas, one spoonful of beans, and one glass of water per day.' Human rights advocates have found more than 6,000 violations in the country’s justice system, including 'arbitrary detentions, torture, due process violations, enforced disappearances, and 366 deaths within state custody.'"

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/el-salvadors-offer-house-us-prisoners-illegal

Mike 03

(18,404 posts)
52. Since this is now an international illegal scandal and obvious
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 05:28 PM
Apr 14

crime against humanity, I am wondering if international bodies like the UN can become involved?

Can ordinary American citizens make appeals to these bodies for help?

ecstatic

(34,749 posts)
20. I was wondering, how could they be so cruel to the Maryland man and
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 02:48 PM
Apr 14

the others and then it hit me - they don't think he's innocent. They think he's a lying criminal because they are lying criminals.

Maru Kitteh

(30,092 posts)
24. Nah. They think he's brown.
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 03:01 PM
Apr 14

They know he’s what they would call “technically” innocent, meaning they cannot prove a crime, but his skin alone makes him a person of poor value.


Irish_Dem

(68,700 posts)
31. They know he is innocent, they admitted this already.
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 03:19 PM
Apr 14

The goal is to make people afraid, to terrorize immigrants and Americans.
It doesn't matter if people are innocent.
The goal is to instill fear into any one living in the US.

LSparkle

(12,007 posts)
36. Yep ... we all have that fetid skunk smell now ...
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 03:32 PM
Apr 14

And we’ll never get it to go away.

“Out, damned spot ... “

YoshidaYui

(43,610 posts)
21. When is he going to have his crown?
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 02:48 PM
Apr 14

When is the Supreme Court going to make him a king or did they already? Why don’t they just come out and say he’s a fucking king?

Ping Tung

(2,194 posts)
22. I though Trump and his tribe were all for "Made in the USA" labels.
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 02:49 PM
Apr 14

I'm surprised that he doesn't have that silly slogan tattooed across his forehead.

Response to Chicagogrl1 (Reply #25)

Dan

(4,620 posts)
28. Well, some can offer better advice, but
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 03:12 PM
Apr 14

9mm pistol because you can get ammunition anywhere,;

.45 pistol for stopping power….whatever you hit will go down;

12 gauge if shotgun, nice for close up…
20 gauge for distance runners…

AR15 for hunting men, not really good for game…

30.06 with scope for distance shooting

BUT

If you really don’t need a weapon don’t get it. Statistics say that you’re more than likely to be more of a threat to yourself or someone close to you.

Take care.

maxsolomon

(36,391 posts)
33. For what purpose?
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 03:26 PM
Apr 14
When they kick at your front door
How you gonna come?
With your hands on your head
Or on the trigger of your gun
When the law break in
How you gonna go?
Shot down on the pavement
Or waiting in death row


LPBBEAR

(526 posts)
27. Time for a change in actions
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 03:09 PM
Apr 14

Peaceful demonstrations, long record breaking speeches by Democratic Senators, and progressive comedy shows aren't enough to stop these Nazi's. Its going to take people dragging these fascists out of power by force and trying them for their crimes. Trump is a dictator and will eventually move to jailing critics and silencing sites like this.

All of them need to be in prison or facing the death penalty for their crimes. They're monsters and are no different than the Nazi's who ended up at Nuremberg after World War 2.

Unity In Voice

(11 posts)
49. Don't give up!!! There is a way.
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 04:50 PM
Apr 14
Its going to take people dragging these fascists out of power by force and trying them for their crimes.

No!!! It's going to take people to vote down ballot blue, to regain the Senate and the House of Representatives. When that happens, the Dem House will Impeach Trump and the Dem Senate will indict. Once indicted, he will be expelled from office, but we need the Dems to do it.
The Supreme court did leave that crack in the immunity decision. The Dem Congress can also impeach him for the insurrection and get him out that way. There is a clause in the amendment that states an insurrectionist can be expelled from office once Congress indicts. Dont give up. Vote Blue!!!!!!

LPBBEAR

(526 posts)
53. I always vote Blue....always
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 07:17 PM
Apr 14

Last edited Mon Apr 14, 2025, 11:40 PM - Edit history (1)

Voting is not going to solve the issue we're facing.

Trump is rapidly going full dictator and his transition to dictator is not slowing, its accelerating. I doubt we have the luxury of waiting for the midterms or the certainty that our votes will be even counted fairly if we even have a vote by that time no matter how large the turnout is.

This is how Trump's screwed up mind works.

He dredges up some halfwit idea from the cesspool that is his brain. Repeats it over and over to his sycophantic staff and cabinet. They break every existing law to make it reality to satisfy him.

Just in the last few days he has floated sending Americans to prisons in El Salvador, telling Congress to terminate funds to NPR and PBS, refusing to honor Court judgements, blocked the AP, threatened CBS with loss of broadcast license, etc etc etc.

That insane sociopath brain of his will continue right on escalating the severity of new and even more dangerous ideas until we're living in a full blown dictatorship comparable to Putin's Russia. At the rate his clogged up septic tank of a brain works that will happen long before the midterms.

Even if we're lucky enough to actually be able to vote by the midterms and if we're even more lucky to actually win in those future elections without the vote being tampered with I seriously doubt that the current crop of Democrats will do much of anything to lock these criminals up.

It was obvious back in 2020 where Trump was going and that he would try again in 2024. The Dems did nothing in those 4 years to stop or block him when they had a chance.

I'd love to have a positive outlook on our future but ignoring current events is dangerous because it encourages placidity. It's clear to me that removing him and his followers will require force. If there is a vote in the midterms, of which I doubt, I of course will be voting blue but I don't think that will end this mess even if by some miracle we managed to win. This is a cancer that will have to be cut out of this country by force with all the perpetrators facing accountability for their crimes.

Unity In Voice

(11 posts)
58. I agree with you 100%, But We the people have to try something!! I have a letter to the Supreme Court.
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 11:50 AM
Apr 15

I have a letter to the Supreme Court.
While it is uncommon, the Supreme Court holds the authority to overturn its own rulings.
We, the people, have a unique opportunity to urge the Court to reconsider the immunity granted to President Donald J. Trump.

If we inundate the Supreme Court with millions of letters expressing our concerns, we can demonstrate our deep dissatisfaction with their decision on immunity.
Our collective voice matters and can prompt the Court to reflect on its stance.
Attached is a letter to the Supreme Court, asking them to take into account the possibility of overturning the immunity granted to President Donald J. Trump.

Let us make our voices heard! You have permission to edit any way you like.
Also, I sent my letter yesterday. I signed it "Concerned United States Citizen". Gave 12345 Any Street USA with my zip code.
Here is the letter I sent.

[Your Name]
[Your Address]
[City, State, ZIP Code]
[Email Address]
[Phone Number]
[Date]
The Honorable Chief Justice [Name]
United States Supreme Court
1 First Street, NE
Washington, D.C. 20543

Dear Chief Justice Roberts and Honorable Justices of the Supreme Court:
I am writing to respectfully petition the Court to reconsider and potentially overturn the legal doctrine of immunity as it applies to President Donald Trump, particularly in relation to his current actions in office. Specifically, I seek a reevaluation of the broad immunity protections afforded to former presidents when those actions are alleged to violate constitutional principles or the rights of individuals, especially in the context of ongoing legal challenges.

The principle of executive immunity has long been a cornerstone of American jurisprudence, safeguarding the president from certain legal liabilities during their term in office. However, there are increasing concerns that this doctrine, when applied without limits, could grant an unchecked immunity to a public official, potentially shielding them from accountability for actions that violate the law, the Constitution, or basic principles of justice.

The allegations against President Trump involve actions that transcend the scope of legitimate presidential duties and enter into the realm of potential constitutional violations, criminal conduct, and abuse of power. These include matters involving the alleged incitement of insurrection, obstruction of justice, stealing classified information, illegal deportations, contempt of court orders, and other offenses related to the preservation of democratic norms and the rule of law.

While the need for a functioning and independent executive branch is critical, the public interest in maintaining accountability and the rule of law cannot be overstated. A decision to grant sweeping immunity in cases where a president's conduct might directly harm the rights of citizens, undermine democratic institutions, or erode public trust in the government, risks undermining the very principles the Constitution seeks to protect.

I request that the Court carefully consider whether the broad immunity that has been applied in previous cases is appropriate in the context of the actions of the current president. In particular, I urge the Court to review the decision of immunity with regard to actions taken by President Trump, especially as they pertain to violations of the Constitution or federal law.

The role of the Supreme Court as the ultimate arbiter of constitutional interpretation is vital to ensuring that no individual, regardless of their position, is beyond the reach of justice when they may have committed unlawful acts. The interests of justice, the protection of the Constitution, and the preservation of public trust demand that this issue be given the serious consideration it warrants.

Thank you for your time and attention to this important matter. I trust that the Court will act with the utmost consideration for the integrity of our democratic institutions and the rule of law.
Sincerely,
[Your Full Name]
[Your Signature (if sending by mail)]

BonnieJW

(2,870 posts)
59. I wouldn't put it passed Roberts, Thomas, and Alito
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 01:57 PM
Apr 15

To turn all those letters over to little rat Miller. He can make a list of all those names with addresses and use it for a big beautiful shipment of home grown terrorists to El Salvador

Ilsa

(62,721 posts)
30. Prisons where poor people cannot afford to send
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 03:15 PM
Apr 14

defense lawyers. Cannot afford visits from family.

I'd love for F47 to be locked up there and forgotten.

SergeStorms

(19,585 posts)
40. Will these prisons be large enough....
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 03:56 PM
Apr 14

to hold all of Mango Mussollni's domestic terrorist MAGAts?

Was that question asked?

Unity In Voice

(11 posts)
47. Response. Flood the Supreme Court
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 04:36 PM
Apr 14

I hear you loud and clear, but the Supreme Court is partially responsible for Trump's actions. But they will ignore our voices, and worse, will not care unless we make our voices heard!!!

While it is uncommon, the Supreme Court holds the authority to overturn its own rulings.

We, the people, have a unique opportunity to urge the Court to reconsider the immunity granted to President Donald J. Trump.

If we inundate the Supreme Court with millions upon millions of letters expressing our concerns, we can demonstrate our deep dissatisfaction with their decision on immunity.

Our collective voice matters and can prompt the Court to reflect on its stance.

Attached is a letter to the Supreme Court, asking them to take into account the possibility of overturning the immunity granted to President Donald J. Trump.

Let us make our voices heard! Lets flood the Supreme Court with billions of letters.
Share this letter to everyone!! Let our voices be heard!!!!

THE LETTER
You have permission to edit anyway you would like.

[Your Name]
[Your Address]
[City, State, ZIP Code]
[Email Address]
[Phone Number]
[Date]

The Honorable Chief Justice Roberts
United States Supreme Court
1 First Street, NE
Washington, D.C. 20543
Dear Chief Justice Roberts and Honorable Justices of the Supreme Court:

I am writing to respectfully petition the Court to reconsider and potentially overturn the legal doctrine of immunity as it applies to President Donald Trump, particularly in relation to his current actions in office. Specifically, I seek a reevaluation of the broad immunity protections afforded to former presidents when those actions are alleged to violate constitutional principles or the rights of individuals, especially in the context of ongoing legal challenges.

The principle of executive immunity has long been a cornerstone of American jurisprudence, safeguarding the president from certain legal liabilities during their term in office. However, there are increasing concerns that this doctrine, when applied without limits, could grant an unchecked immunity to a public official, potentially shielding them from accountability for actions that violate the law, the Constitution, or basic principles of justice.

The allegations against President Trump involve actions that transcend the scope of legitimate presidential duties and enter into the realm of potential constitutional violations, criminal conduct, and abuse of power. These include matters involving the alleged incitement of insurrection, obstruction of justice, stealing classified information, illegal deportations, contempt of court orders, and other offenses related to the preservation of democratic norms and the rule of law.

While the need for a functioning and independent executive branch is critical, the public interest in maintaining accountability and the rule of law cannot be overstated. A decision to grant sweeping immunity in cases where a president's conduct might directly harm the rights of citizens, undermine democratic institutions, or erode public trust in the government, risks undermining the very principles the Constitution seeks to protect.

I request that the Court carefully consider whether the broad immunity that has been applied in previous cases is appropriate in the context of the actions of the current president. In particular, I urge the Court to review the decision of immunity with regard to actions taken by President Trump, especially as they pertain to violations of the Constitution or federal law.

The role of the Supreme Court as the ultimate arbiter of constitutional interpretation is vital to ensuring that no individual, regardless of their position, is beyond the reach of justice when they may have committed unlawful acts. The interests of justice, the protection of the Constitution, and the preservation of public trust demand that this issue be given the serious consideration it warrants.

Thank you for your time and attention to this important matter. I trust that the Court will act with the utmost consideration for the integrity of our democratic institutions and the rule of law.
Sincerely,

[Your Full Name]
[Your Signature (if sending by mail)]

Unity In Voice

(11 posts)
51. Thank you - Please do
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 05:20 PM
Apr 14

Thank you for sharing. Use, edit the letter anyway you want.
My goal is to encourage millions to flood the Supreme Court with letters requesting to overturn the immunity. Can you imagine that if all the people who protested this month sent letters, what an impact it could make???
It would be phenomenal.

krkaufman

(13,850 posts)
48. For clarification ...
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 04:39 PM
Apr 14
and now innocents who do nothing wrong are next on the list...............


Innocents are already on the list. Anyone renditioned without due process is an “innocent,” by the basic premise of our system … innocent until proven guilty.

turbinetree

(26,034 posts)
55. That they are ....................we are now living within this country a international criminal cabal..............
Mon Apr 14, 2025, 07:26 PM
Apr 14

and these two don't give a shit....................none .........nada................

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