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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsReally becoming worried the only way to stop this...
Is going to be a nation wide strike or enough Republicans growing a spine to impeach or a civil war.
Because it's clear they will ignore the courts.
Joinfortmill
(21,668 posts)ImNotGod
(1,213 posts)protect their gated neighborhoods from swarms of very armed and angry people with nothing to lose. There will be a breaking point, it's just a matter of when. The fascism here is worse than any other in the world because it doesn't even pretend to placate the peasants which is why it will fail dramatically. Just look at the French revolution as an example.
LymphocyteLover
(10,139 posts)as the country degrades further, IMHO
druidity33
(6,933 posts)based on the 3.5% revolution/change theory.
https://generalstrikeus.com
wordstroken
(1,406 posts)bdamomma
(69,626 posts)for posting. A donation is coming their way.
Skittles
(172,851 posts)IT'S UP TO THE REST OF US
chowder66
(12,509 posts)bsiebs
(982 posts)for Democratic or Independent (caucus with Democrats)... they would be national heros (and likely primaried, but so what?)
The senate is another thing... no hope for a while...
MadameButterfly
(4,154 posts)But they don't
patphil
(9,225 posts)I doubt the Republicans will call an end to this. We need at least 20 Republicans in the Senate to convict and remove from office both Trump and Vance, plus a Democrat in the position of Speaker of the House to stop this.
This is assuming we could actually get the House to impeach those two, and Mike Johnson was not still Speaker, since the Speaker of the House is next in line, and he's not much better than TDrump and Vance.
As unfortunate as it is, I think Civil War may be tho only way to save our Constitutional Democratic Republic.
And that could end up tearing our country apart.
We're in a bad place right now; no good solution in sight.
elocs
(24,486 posts)Imagine the Civil War if there were slave holders and those believing in emancipation living in the same neighborhood. That's how it is today in many places with maga and the Constitutionalists.
CanonRay
(16,263 posts)That's just what happened, neighbor against neighbor, and arned militias raiding everyone.
Enter stage left
(4,635 posts)Xavier Breath
(6,674 posts)I'll just be content silently hoping for it.
LymphocyteLover
(10,139 posts)bdamomma
(69,626 posts)can't say. I say it out loud at home.
HorsesflyHigh
(36 posts)JCMach1
(29,242 posts)In charge.
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)Congress in the midterms.
the rethugs will never grow a spine.
thought crime
(1,786 posts)Trump & GOP are going full Jim Crow on this, and that's a best case scenario.
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)legislation from getting through. Unless something unforeseen happens to trump or vance, it will be most likely 2028 that will be the very last chance to take save our democracy, but like you said, if they start to disenfranchise voters, all bets our off.
We are in a Constitutional Crisis right now I believe, and from my perspective, since trump is only obeying court orders he wants, nothing should be off the table, including secession from union, or a Constitution Convention.
vapor2
(4,913 posts)bamagal62
(4,556 posts)Come around, they will have suppressed voting and rigged machines enough that it wont matter.
electric_blue68
(27,296 posts)(Where are the Harold Finches of the US?! Fabulous fictional TV character computer genius with empathy]
thought crime
(1,786 posts)Warpy
(114,667 posts)because the same old weasels just change their uniforms when a winner becomes likely and the same old shit starts right up again.
Massive civil disobedience and monkeywrenching might be a much better idea, neither involving large crowds, organized violence, or uniforms. Both can have a0palling personal consequences, but by the time we're ready to go that route, we won't care much. I didn't.
hay rick
(9,717 posts)Republicans will not grow spines.
A nationwide strike can be waited out while the captive media establishment "both sides" the real grievances and deflects discussion from the real issues. If a general strike is tried and fails the choice becomes guns or subservience.
bamagal62
(4,556 posts)I should buy a gun and take lessons. But, Im terrified to go against my lifelong stance against guns. Not sure what to do really.
Bettie
(19,872 posts)never.
In recent years, they all had their spines removed and gifted them to donald.
dflprincess
(29,417 posts)retired and active duty military officers who take their oaths seriously take over. Clear out the Executive branch and set a date for new elections.
Captain Zero
(8,952 posts)He still won't leave the white house, except to play golf.
If his colonoscopy perforates his bowel and anesthesia and sepsis overcome him, we might get lucky.
dflprincess
(29,417 posts)I was suspicious it might have been Rubio's or Cruz' head but they're not saying.
Traildogbob
(13,160 posts)For polyps up that cavern. Way too many heads. And the constant entering and exiting for Fox appointments wears any growth down. Noems lips would suck them off the colon wall.
Ford_Prefect
(8,665 posts)without the Senate, and Johnson has said he'll do whatever 47 wants. We need another effective answer short of bloodshed and martial law (which is what he's expecting to do just as soon as he can).
A national strike sounds good on paper but America isn't quite built to do it. Most people are still grasping the idea that he's not following any rules, making it up as he goes along, and has dismantled or disabled many of our federal institutions on the way to replacing them with privatized versions, if at all. With the apparent blessing of the GOP House, most of the GOP Senate, and most of the GOP governors and legislatures.
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GP6971
(38,396 posts)NewHendoLib
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GP6971
(38,396 posts)NewHendoLib
(61,910 posts)GP6971
(38,396 posts)what smiles she used.
NewHendoLib
(61,910 posts)I've not been on DU all that much so I don't really look for her very often. But tonight - that user name - screamed LG
GP6971
(38,396 posts)Initech
(109,262 posts)And right now, waiting for the first option will take too long.
valleyrogue
(2,793 posts)but I can't say it in any public forum.
I think deep down everybody knows what needs to be done.
bdamomma
(69,626 posts)this could happen. I know I didn't post in correct forum.
live love laugh
(16,480 posts)kwolf68
(8,452 posts)They are a soulless, vacuous party that no longer has any true ideals or principles. Their Godking makes a mockery of the US Constitution, they USED to revere, and now they stand silent. Completely ignoring rule of law, judicial review. Democracy, kaput.
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