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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsno official democrat is touring and drawing crowds like Berrnie's. do we even have any
dems with the star power to get those crowds...or any crowds of size? Or any democrats who want to tour like Bernie is doing? Desperately seeking Susan here
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murielm99
(33,016 posts)Cory Booker is one. He is doing his job, not gallivanting and grandstanding. Go, Cory!
Duncan Grant
(8,930 posts)Youve got two progressives whove been showing up for the constituency of the Democratic Party for years drawing 35,000+ people, breaking records in Utah, etc. and you see this as gallivanting and grandstanding?
Im not seeing it. Please explain to us all, why this is so. Ill look forward to your reply.
DFW
(60,311 posts)Adam Schiff, Cory Booker, Josh Shapiro, Jon Ossoff, Jamie Raskin, lots of others.
But who want to tour? People like Schiff, Booker, Shapiro, Ossoff and Raskin all have day jobs.
Arazi
(8,887 posts)At this moment though, it appears Americans are hungry to connect with likeminded people, get motivated, and hear about concrete actions they can do now.
Seems like Americans are desperate for Dem leadership to get on a public stage and educate them on the situation. We are going to need to move the mass of people to hit the streets very very soon, prepared with knowledge about the encroaching fascism and prepared to defend their actions to others who are waffling on the sidelines.
alarimer
(17,146 posts)These rallies serve more than one purpose. They are energizing of course, but they also connect people with others to organize.
I personally want fighters, not people wringing their hands.
Obstruction in Congress should also be on the menu. Like Booker, like whoever is putting holds on Trump's nominees.
William769
(59,147 posts)If you don't drink their kool-aid, they don't want to hear from you.
DFW
(60,311 posts)So, what else is new? If I won't drink champagne, I guess I can survive without kool-aid as well.
Meowmee
(9,212 posts)Tom Rinaldo
(23,192 posts)Democratic members of Congress, while under Republican rule, clearly need to keep one eye fixed on the legislative calendar to avoid missing any critical votes. And there are important hearings that they need to attend to expose what the Trump regime is doing. Their staffs do most of the behind the scenes research and fact finding, which is essential too of course. But precious few bills sponsored by Democrats have a snowball's chance in hell of Trump signing into law, so that part of their jobs is essentially put on hold. And that of course is the core aspect of any legislator's job: to legislate.
With that blocked, the importance of their public voices as high profile elected Democratic members of our national government gains special prominence. At times they can serve the public good more outside of Washington than inside it, carrying a torch, framing a message, rallying the troops, while their staffs monitor goings on inside DC. These are not normal times. Working to turn the tide of public opinion against the MAGA agenda, and manifesting public resistance to it, has become the primary mission of Congressional Democrats. Many are doing an excellent job at fulfilling that responsibility, but I consider that as much a part of their day job right now as anything that they can accomplish inside DC.
DFW
(60,311 posts)I have a few friends in the House and Senate, all Democrats, and I can tell you that their schedules are always crazy full, even when we are in the minority. They are constantly traveling back to their home states, meeting with constituents of all stripes, trying to get a grasp on what environmental, educational or business issues are of vital importance back home. It is also of vital importance to try to maintain lines of communication to the other side, if only for occasional damage control. When my brother and I had our Marks and Johns dinner in D.C. with three Senate Democrats, two Republican Senators at a table just outside the room popped in to say hi and spend a minute.
On a side note, you would have burst out laughing when the two Republicans, who obviously knew their Democratic colleagues, gave my brother and me the who the hell are those two guys? look. Secret behind-the-scenes Democratic movers and shakers? Sons of George Soros? But they didt ask and we didnt tell them. If they asked later, they probably would just have gotten the answer, oh, those guys? Just two guys we know, no one important, which would no doubt have just reinforced their suspicions that we were indeed secret powers behind the scenes
They are a really diverse group, even just the ones I know. From the married gay woman in Minnesota to the wicked smart Jewish guy from Georgia. Most are never available on weekends because they are meeting with constituents in their home districts/states. The notion that they have nothing else to do when out of power may fit a certain convenient narrative, but I promise you that narrative is as false as a pillar dollar dated 1879. Fourteen years ago, one friend of mine that took her duty to be regularly available to her districts constituents seriously got a bullet in the head for her trouble. We had just rung in the New Year together in South Carolina, planned to have dinner in DC two weeks later. But she felt the obligation to be publicly available to her constituents as much as possible.
Dont confuse being a State Senator with being a US Senator. In many states, being a member of the State Senate is a part time job. I know enough members of the US Senate to confidently state that anyone of them that does not treat their job like a full-time job does a disservice to his/her constituents, and none of my acquaintances do that.
Tom Rinaldo
(23,192 posts)I especially like the pillar dollar reference
Broad strokes tend to omit a lot of details, and you kindly filled in many of them. Of course members of Congress have important duties related to their specific offices, I don't means to suggest otherwise. The point that I wanted to emphasize is, at base, a simple one.
We have no high profile obvious leader of the National Democratic Party right now. Minority leaders in the House or Senate don't have enough power to simply assume that status unless they win it through their own force of personality and charisma. Neither, for the moment, has. And regardless of the title he holds the public never viewed a Chair of the DNC as the leader of the Democratic Party. Yet it has never been more important for the Democratic message to be amplified nation wide.
We are not in normal times The U.S. constitution is unraveling before our eyes. The United States Government is being dismantled, and all potentially profitable elements of it are headed off to the auction block. Virtually everything else is being starved out of existence. The legislative majorities in Congress refuse to engage in oversight, and literally recoil at the prospect of holding the Trump regime accountable for anything. Without strong public backing, the Courts alone are incapable of holding the line.They are about to be steamrolled by an unchecked Executive branch.
All prior assumptions about the responsibilities of Members of Congress to their constituents and the public have to be reexamined in the above light. All assumed priorities for the use of their time have to be revisited and revised in light of the crisis faced. Bi-partisanship still exists in theory inside the Halls of Congress, but functionally it is a hollow rite until Republicans inside those halls find the voice to publicly oppose unconstitutional administration actions, and those detrimental to our National Security. We need leaders for the Resistance today, and the public to a large extent is judging the Democratic Party by the roll its congressional members are taking on in that fight.
yes INDEED
sabbat hunter
(7,112 posts)AOC has been on tour with Bernie.
stillcool
(34,407 posts)not sure where Elizabeth Warren has been, other than tv which I don't watch. My Congressman, Jake Auchincloss has had several townhalls. I don't think any of them would have the draw Bernie has, nor would they have the funds to engage in that kind of campaign. Some people are talented speakers/orators, and have a history in government. I guess if you don't know how to draw and wow a crowd you should stick to village, town, and state elections. Fine by me.
Mister Ed
(6,948 posts)Amy flew in after the Senate adjourned at 3:30 AM, and stepped to the podium on our capitol steps having had just a single hour of sleep that night.
stillcool
(34,407 posts)Democrats. It's not certain Democrats, it's the entire party. It's not the federal government, its the Democratic Party. I don't get it.
DBoon
(25,051 posts)... that has absolutely no chance of passing the republican ruled congress.
Well, Time Walz has been hosting voter forums, attempting to reach citizens on their own turf. He seems to be having some success
yellowdogintexas
(23,726 posts)They went all night with those amendments and speeches about the amendments. Each Senator took a turn on a different subject. It may seem futile but these actions are keeping bills stalled.
Many of our big guns have been going to protests and demonstrations at the various victimized Government agencies
I love watching the clips of committee actions with our feisty young Congressional Reps: Jasmine Crockett, Swalwell, Goldman, Moskovitz, Lieu, Martin Frost, and others. They are not holding back and they are taking no prisoners. They are the base of our future.
Tonight I went to the monthly meeting of one of our local grassroots clubs. The program was our new State Democratic Chair, Kendall Scutter and boy did he wow that room! He is young and full of ideas and how to carry them out. We had a packed room of Democrats from all over the county. He has plans and you could tell the whole crowd was wowed by his energy. I am very excited about the next year. He is currently touring the state, meeting with groups like the one tonight and letting them know the Texas Democratic Party has new direction and energy.
One thing I keep hearing over and over from various elected officials: the protests, marches, rallies and so forth are helping the cause. They draw attention to the things we need to do. The Congressional Republicans may be afraid of Donny Convict but now they are starting to be a bit afraid of the voters. The more actions we take, and the larger our events become the more people will take action.
elocs
(24,486 posts)Sadly and to our detriment, Democrats have underestimated Trump in the maga cult in thinking they were just stupid elections deniers while all the time they were planning on stealing the '24 election by targeting the swing states. This is the sort of thing that we can't afford to be smug about, especially when Musk is funding them.
Sogo
(7,239 posts)I don't see the problem with a full court press of many Dems holding many town halls. Bernie, for some reason, draws huge crowds to hear basically the same speech as when he twice ran for President. Don't get me wrong, I like Bernie and AOC and very much appreciate what they're doing, but that doesn't mean the other Dems who are also out there meeting the public aren't doing something equaly valuable. Appreciate it all and stop bashing those who don't have "star power."
How odd you would ignore her.
RJ-MacReady
(603 posts)Crowd sizes are irrelevant otherwise VP Harris would have won. I'll probably get a lot of shit for this but Bernie is not a Democrat, and I would argue the party being associated with him has hurt overall.
Emile
(42,575 posts)uponit7771
(93,532 posts)...matter who on GOP side endorses us we can't parade them as if we're trying to attract GOP we have to offer something different enough it'll get people off the couch.
So true the center keeps people stuck to the couches and doesn't attract GOP in numbers that'll make a difference
B.See
(8,588 posts)remiss in ignoring the significance of it. Nor is it a dig at other hard working Democrats to acknowledge it.
People are showing up for these rallies as a reaction, no... in REVULSION to the dictator Felon in Chief's actions, and the actions of his fascist henchmen who are destroying democracy before our eyes, and as we speak.
As well they/we SHOULD.
...Newton's third law.
Quiet Em
(2,958 posts)the people who attend these rallies to vote.
But not everybody needs that. I don't need a rally by any Democrat to motivate me. I'm not looking for a star.
Duncan Grant
(8,930 posts)JI7
(93,726 posts)75 percent voted for a Republican to be Governor there.
RandySF
(85,032 posts)Wanderlust988
(787 posts)I'll hang up and listen...
flor-de-jasmim
(2,286 posts)Consider people like Jamie Raskin, who has been a tremendous voice for the rule of law. I read he was primary sponsor on just one bill that passed, but I wouldnt judge the success of his entire political career on that. He is so much more.