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Dennis Donovan

(30,587 posts)
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 08:38 AM Apr 15

Bloomberg: US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away

Bloomberg - (archived: https://archive.ph/56dhP ) US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away

By Augusta Saraiva
April 15, 2025 at 10:00 AM UTC

The US economy is set to lose billions of dollars in revenue in 2025 from a pullback in foreign tourism and boycotts of American products, adding to a growing list of headwinds keeping recession risk elevated.

Arrivals of non-citizens to the US by plane dropped almost 10% in March from a year earlier, according to data published Monday by the International Trade Administration. Goldman Sachs Group Inc. estimates in a worst-case scenario, the hit this year from reduced travel and boycotts could total 0.3% of gross domestic product, which would amount to almost $90 billion.



Foreign tourism has been a tailwind for the US in recent years as the cessation of pandemic-era restrictions sparked a resurgence of international travel. But many potential visitors are now rethinking their vacation plans amid increased hostility at the border, rising geopolitical frictions and global economic uncertainty.

One of them is Curtis Allen, a Canadian videographer who canceled an upcoming US vacation after President Donald Trump imposed punitive tariffs on his home country and suggested it should become the 51st US state. Allen and his partner have been on multiple camping trips to Oregon over the years, but this year, they will be traveling around British Columbia instead.

“We’re not just staying home,” said Allen, 34. “We’re going to go spend the same money somewhere else.”

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Bloomberg: US Economy Is Set to Lose Billions as Foreign Tourists Stay Away (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Apr 15 OP
TSF* LakeVermilion Apr 15 #1
They are making a wise decision. SamKnause Apr 15 #2
"To be honest, for once, this is all our fault." - G.O.P. BoRaGard Apr 15 #3
I was born and raised in northern New York State. patphil Apr 15 #4
Same with Maine. the nelm Apr 15 #9
Here in southern AZ, similar economic reality, but people from Mexico who cross border LEGALLY as shopping tourists Attilatheblond Apr 15 #12
Also in Vermont paleotn Apr 15 #13
Feels like Rebl2 Apr 15 #31
Prices are down. North Coast Lawyer Apr 15 #24
Logic dictates they cancel the proposed tax cut. JohnnyRingo Apr 15 #5
America is back baby. MAGA IronLionZion Apr 15 #6
There is one bright side for Americans that travel Renew Deal Apr 15 #7
Good! Sometimes people need to suffer before they learn a valuable lesson... Oopsie Daisy Apr 15 #8
We'll lose more Owens Apr 15 #10
I wonder if the Olympics will be like what happened in 1980 when Moscow was boycotted over the kimbutgar Apr 15 #19
Florida (Mega MAGAland) will experince the ripple effect of this. NCDem47 Apr 15 #11
6.6% seems awfully low to me. SergeStorms Apr 15 #26
Nobody in their right mind would want to come here now. nt moniss Apr 15 #14
We are afraid to travel outside of the country perdita9 Apr 15 #16
Are you tired of winning yet? perdita9 Apr 15 #15
They may want to visit blue states but the border scares them mainer Apr 15 #17
Let's not forget American vacations within our border. National Parks are likely to become drilling sites and/or...... usaf-vet Apr 15 #18
And after the trees have been cut down for logging they will be hell holes. kimbutgar Apr 15 #20
Dead on both counts. usaf-vet Apr 15 #21
You'd think a president who owns hotels and resorts would know about tourism money in the US IronLionZion Apr 15 #22
So much winning NotHardly Apr 15 #23
Just some more "tRUMP built that" wolfie001 Apr 15 #25
If I didn't live here, I would have no desired to come. spanone Apr 15 #27
Oh, me neither! Mike 03 Apr 15 #29
Wow. Quite impressive that we already have this data aggregated. Mike 03 Apr 15 #28
FUCK YEAH maybe the party that elected this clown will finally YoshidaYui Apr 15 #30
Heckuva job Trumpy Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 15 #32
Understand that most of the Trump damage won't be seen for months Bluetus Apr 15 #33

SamKnause

(14,217 posts)
2. They are making a wise decision.
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 09:39 AM
Apr 15

You are not safe in the U.S.

I live here and I am not safe.

No one is safe.

The U.S. is a lawless country.

All institutions have been infected with White Supremacists and Christian Nationalists.

There is only 1 party of government remaining.

The republican party died and morphed into the trump party.

1 side represents goodness and decency.

1 side represents evil and hate.

BoRaGard

(5,166 posts)
3. "To be honest, for once, this is all our fault." - G.O.P.
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 09:43 AM
Apr 15

Thank you for finally being MANLY and owning up to your FAIL.

patphil

(7,729 posts)
4. I was born and raised in northern New York State.
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 10:45 AM
Apr 15

There's so much Canadian tourism up there that many of the signs in Lake George are in both English and French Canadian.
I don't think a lot of Canadians will be coming there this year.
And this is how it is all along the US/Canadian border.
It will definitely hurt a lot of businesses along the border.

the nelm

(71 posts)
9. Same with Maine.
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 11:01 AM
Apr 15

All the coastal tourist spots depend a lot on Canadians during the summer months. The same can likely be said for most such locations along the Eastern seaboard.

Attilatheblond

(5,724 posts)
12. Here in southern AZ, similar economic reality, but people from Mexico who cross border LEGALLY as shopping tourists
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 11:16 AM
Apr 15

and some more complicated medical care. We have many signs in English & Spanish and that really pisses off the bigots here.

paleotn

(20,302 posts)
13. Also in Vermont
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 11:17 AM
Apr 15

Irony is , we’re not the idiots responsible for all this mess. Our states are solidly Blue. I understand them not wanting to vacation at the Gulf, Florida our the southeast coast in general. Hell, I don’t want to go there. Traveling south feels almost like crossing the Iron Curtain into Eastern Europe back in the bad old days. Just feels creepy.

But the northern tier of the Northeast isn’t like that. We have our magats but our state governments haven’t embraced fascism like other parts of the US. Yet we’re suffering from it.

24. Prices are down.
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 02:55 PM
Apr 15

Booked a hotel in Glens Falls yesterday (just south of Lake George). Cheaper than any time in the last decade.

JohnnyRingo

(19,868 posts)
5. Logic dictates they cancel the proposed tax cut.
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 10:46 AM
Apr 15

The whole reason behind his tariff strategy was to "make America rich" so they could afford to grant a few trillion in relief for the struggling investor class.
Well, that didn't work, so back up the social handout. There's no reason for a tax cut if corporate entities are bringing in less money.

If I went from working 40 hours week to 20 hours at a lower base pay, I wouldn't complain about high wealth taxes.

Renew Deal

(83,845 posts)
7. There is one bright side for Americans that travel
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 10:56 AM
Apr 15

You might be able to get into very expensive and exclusive places for lower price, though not that much lower when considering tarrifs

Oopsie Daisy

(5,651 posts)
8. Good! Sometimes people need to suffer before they learn a valuable lesson...
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 11:01 AM
Apr 15

... once someone hits rock bottom, waking up in a gutter, face down in their own vomit and smelling of sewage, only then will they be motivated to change.

It's just a damn shame that so many others will suffer too as the MAGAverse learns the hard lessons.

Owens

(504 posts)
10. We'll lose more
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 11:10 AM
Apr 15

The World Cup and Olympics are coming and I don't think anyone is coming to America. Surprised the World Cup hasn't moved the U.S. games to Mexico or Canada. And of course, Trump will blame Biden

kimbutgar

(24,944 posts)
19. I wonder if the Olympics will be like what happened in 1980 when Moscow was boycotted over the
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 12:03 PM
Apr 15

Invasion of Afghanistan and 1984 Russia retaliated by boycotting the 1984 Olympics in Los Angeles. I suspect as things get worst in the US many foreign countries will boycott in the fear they could be sent to the El Salvador prisons or attacked by Maga Americans who are against foreigners in their country.

NCDem47

(2,790 posts)
11. Florida (Mega MAGAland) will experince the ripple effect of this.
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 11:12 AM
Apr 15

MAGAts will blow it off saying, "Fine, it was getting too crowded. I'd rather mix with 'real' Americans anyway."

DeSantis was wanting to eliminate property taxes for residents shifting burden to increasing tourists taxes (domestic and international). Folks are leaving the state due to high cost of living and increasing hurricane risks (and I imagine poltics too!).

From the Governor's Office, international tourists made up 6.6% of overall Florida tourists.

SergeStorms

(19,599 posts)
26. 6.6% seems awfully low to me.
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 04:00 PM
Apr 15

I'd say at least double that, around 15%. You're never going to get truthful data from DeSatan's offices, only data that makes him look good.

perdita9

(1,243 posts)
16. We are afraid to travel outside of the country
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 11:31 AM
Apr 15

Even with a passport, they might not let us in

mainer

(12,324 posts)
17. They may want to visit blue states but the border scares them
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 11:42 AM
Apr 15

I spent the weekend with a Canadian couple, here in the US for a conference they had to attend. They didn’t want to come because they were afraid of trouble at the border. She left her cellphone at home, for fear border patrol would look at her social media history. And that’s it, they’re not coming back until Trump’s gone.

usaf-vet

(7,473 posts)
18. Let's not forget American vacations within our border. National Parks are likely to become drilling sites and/or......
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 11:50 AM
Apr 15

.... be grossly understaffed, which means unsafe conditions. Dirty, unkept facilities. Closed off areas.

I see a lot of backyard picnics.

kimbutgar

(24,944 posts)
20. And after the trees have been cut down for logging they will be hell holes.
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 12:05 PM
Apr 15

And don’t get me started on the displacement of animals in those parks.

IronLionZion

(48,619 posts)
22. You'd think a president who owns hotels and resorts would know about tourism money in the US
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 12:35 PM
Apr 15

but then you may also see how he's gone bankrupt so many times screwing investors and contractors/workers.

wolfie001

(4,774 posts)
25. Just some more "tRUMP built that"
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 03:28 PM
Apr 15

POS to the nth degree. More lies, frauds and crimes to follow.

Mike 03

(18,425 posts)
29. Oh, me neither!
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 04:04 PM
Apr 15

In fact, if I were still on any of the social media platforms, I'd be warning people away for their own safety and sanity.

Mike 03

(18,425 posts)
28. Wow. Quite impressive that we already have this data aggregated.
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 04:03 PM
Apr 15

This WILL matter, especially in a state like Florida, come this summer (if it continues). Speaking of Florida, DeSantis sure has been quiet lately.

Bluetus

(992 posts)
33. Understand that most of the Trump damage won't be seen for months
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 07:31 PM
Apr 15

The tariffs keep flip-flopping. Nobody has a prayer of figuring out exactly what is being levied on any particular day. Lots of good are going to be stuck at ports (outbound at foreign ports or inbound at US ports). Much of that merchandise can't be accepted because nobody has the ability or willingness to pay the tariff.

Most of what will be sold here over the next 60 days was already imported before tariffs. We won't see the full impact of much of this until June or July. And to the extent that this leads to inflation or recession, much of that will really kick in after June for all the above reasons.

What we are seeing today is mostly just the Trump chaos, and price gouging that happens within the fog of chaos. The real pain is just now entering the pipeline and won't be realized into summer, or even Labor Day.

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