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MichMan

(17,405 posts)
1. Here is what I don't understand
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 10:30 AM
Apr 2025

I thought tariffs were charged on the declared value of an item, not the retail cost.

Fictitious example. If a high end designer purse, for example, costs $40 to make and sells for $800, I believe the tariff is assessed on the $40. So, let's assume that the current 145% tariff stays in effect. That means the $40 purse gets a tariff of $58 making the cost now $98. It is still being sold for $800. Of course, there are marketing and distribution costs on top of production costs, but that still means the profit margin is very high. Even if the seller wasn't willing to eat the cost, the purse would be marked up to $858, not double like some people claim. Am I wrong?

Some people will pay a lot for perceived status. Not only in clothing, but also some of these high end liquor brands.

Scrivener7

(60,080 posts)
3. If you watch the video, you will see the comments have nothing to do with how the tariffs are levied.
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 11:07 AM
Apr 2025

Their purpose is to show that Americans are paying hundreds or thousands for things that cost cents to make.

I think it's a good thing for people who pay for status to begin to realize how they are being ripped off in their attempts to impress their very dumb neighbors.

MichMan

(17,405 posts)
4. Hardly some new revelation.
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 11:25 AM
Apr 2025

Not just Americans either. Some people just like a little indulgence every now and then. Not for me to judge

newdeal2

(5,625 posts)
6. In many cases it will be on the item's value aka price tag
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 11:42 AM
Apr 2025

Imagine being US customs trying to figure out the cost of an iPhone is to Apple vs. what they sell it for. Pretty difficult and error prone. Easier just to add 10% to whatever the price is.

MichMan

(17,405 posts)
7. Apple already has to establish a declared value to customs for any shipments entering the country
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 12:01 PM
Apr 2025

This has always been the case. I'm sure that they have a whole department that handles those forms and declarations and have an established method for determining the value at that stage. If audited, Apple would need to show how they determined that value.

Customs isn't going to need to determine how much every item sells for at retailers. Selling price includes distribution costs, marketing, and retail mark ups, none of which are applicable to the value when the product is received at US customs. Those costs are not subject to a tariff.

newdeal2

(5,625 posts)
8. Maybe
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 12:32 PM
Apr 2025

I’m going off my own (limited) experience.

For example, I recently purchased an item from the UK. The value they listed on the customs declaration form is exactly the price they list on their website.

Apple would likely list the price they sell the iPhone for (ex. $1000) not the actual cost of production.

MichMan

(17,405 posts)
9. You purchased it for retail price as a final customer direct from the seller
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 12:39 PM
Apr 2025

Apple is shipping products intended for their own distribution chain. Not at all the same.

newdeal2

(5,625 posts)
10. A lot of people buy their phone directly from Apple
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 01:26 PM
Apr 2025

And I don’t see much variation in list price among the major retailers unless they are discounting.

Getting back to the original post, I would think a tariff on an imported Hermes bag is applied to the list price of $30K, not the $1K it costs them to make.

MichMan

(17,405 posts)
12. I wasn't aware that Apple on line purchases are shipped directly from the China factory
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 01:56 PM
Apr 2025

I would have thought they came from an Apple warehouse located here in the US. I have only had Androids, so no personal experience buying from Apple. Learn something new every day.

Wonder Why

(7,236 posts)
11. Apple China Manufacturing company "sells" it to Apple America at a lower price and Apple America
Tue Apr 15, 2025, 01:31 PM
Apr 2025

sells it to you at a higher price.

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