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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsVan Hollen Announces Departure For El Salvador Tomorrow Morning

https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/van-hollen-el-salvador-abrego-garcia-deportation/
bluestarone
(22,466 posts)DON'T allow this visit!
Lovie777
(23,755 posts)from this effed up administration.
People are fighting back.
Jim__
(15,280 posts)617Blue
(2,526 posts)wendyb-NC
(4,732 posts)Standing up for his constituent. Which is, doing his job.
dweller
(28,709 posts)If Van Hollen is able to leave with him , take him to Canada (if they will allow it) and have his family meet him there .
Otherwise he will be arrested immediately upon return here to US
✌🏻
Irish_Dem
(82,386 posts)Mad_Machine76
(25,009 posts)Irish_Dem
(82,386 posts)And making the Senator grovel and give him something to release him.
BeerBarrelPolka
(2,173 posts)Let's hope that a senator that has the guts to go to El Salvador would also have to courage to not fold under trump's pressure of being jailed. Time will tell I guess. Personally, I think there's one way and only one way to stop trump.
Irish_Dem
(82,386 posts)But stopping Trump will not solve anything long term.
Just a temporary reprieve.
Trump is the tip of the iceberg.
We have half the US congress, the judiciary, Supreme Court, media, etc all totally onward with a fascist
dictatorship. And all the federal officers who are thrilled to be the new Gestapo. And of course the MAGA
cult, who loves criminal leadership.
BeerBarrelPolka
(2,173 posts)It sickens me. Even moreso, I cannot fathom any clue within reason, how to get out of this situation. It seems trump's support (in my neck of the woods) is growing by leaps and bounds.
I pride myself on being a problem solver. This is one I simply cannot deal with presently.
Irish_Dem
(82,386 posts)Sometimes people are on a path and it is impossible to move them off of it.
Things have to reach a logical conclusion for people to learn some lessons.
I think this is the situation we are in right now.
Of course there is a significant chance that the change is permanent.
And we may have to face the fact that the American people have voted out their democracy
and now want a fascist dictatorship. They no longer want a bill of rights, constitution,
fair elections.
I keep thinking about Ben Franklin who did not think we could keep our democracy.
He was a man of the world and doubted human nature. Perhaps he was 100% right.
BeerBarrelPolka
(2,173 posts)Something unforeseen will happen I'm certain. It's just a matter of what's left once the dust settles....
Irish_Dem
(82,386 posts)Something is going to happen no one anticipated.
And then it is a matter of what will be left of our country.
And where do we go from there.
I hope we are wrong, and half of the US wakes the hell up fairly quickly.
BeerBarrelPolka
(2,173 posts)I'm too young to really remember Nixon (I was born in 64), but this thing in there now is a full blown maniac. I've never experienced a loose cannon as president like him. Not Reagan, Not Bush II. Anything is possible with this submoron. I, like you, hope the people wake up rapidly and the repub politicians take a stand against him and his ilk.
Irish_Dem
(82,386 posts)I am older than you are.
It was very bad at the time, but Trump makes Nixon look like Mother Theresa in comparison.
Yes Reagan and Bush II were also very bad, but we are in totally new territory right now.
Terrifying and life changing territory.
Yes Trump and his crime syndicate are vicious, ruthless psychopaths who will do anything
for money and power. And they are backed by the wealthy and powerful.
Yes the only chance we have is if the people make enough noise to make the GOP congress
and judiciary actually do the jobs they are paid to do.
Or we watch it all go to its logical conclusion and pick up the pieces at some point.
MayReasonRule
(4,137 posts)Passages
(4,517 posts)Be safe.
bluestarone
(22,466 posts)Just saying. Edit to add my thinking of others is for his safety only.
Falcon101
(75 posts)This is what leadership looks like.
MayReasonRule
(4,137 posts)ancianita
(43,365 posts)Our standup Rep Maxwell Frost of Florida said he would go on the trip and try to recruit House members to join. Two more House members, Representatives Robert Garcia of California and Yassamin Ansari of Arizona, are going. More than one Spanish speaker isimportant at this time.
https://truthout.org/articles/abrego-garcias-senator-vows-to-go-to-el-salvador-if-he-isnt-released/
Amaryllis
(11,430 posts)Iamscrewed
(486 posts)Maybe we could get tRump to go somewhere he could get arrested and sent to the Hague.
Kingofalldems
(40,368 posts)Schumer should be with him.
orangecrush
(31,182 posts)jrthin
(5,231 posts)Just kidding...maybe.
gab13by13
(32,789 posts)have a different strategy. They want Krasnov to burn it all down and then they will win the next election. I heard Schumer say that on Chris Hayes' show.
jrthin
(5,231 posts)DET
(2,601 posts)I hope he has some kind of protection with him. I cant help but think of the Jonestown attack. Many thanks to VanHollen for standing up for Garcia and by extension for all of us.
Dave Bowman
(7,466 posts)Richard D
(10,018 posts). . . but I hope he stays safe.
sheshe2
(98,472 posts)Thank you, MayReasonRule!
MayReasonRule
(4,137 posts)There's no such thing as trying.
There is doing.
There is not doing.
This. Is. Doing!
Here's to their safe return!
dchill
(42,660 posts)moniss
(9,150 posts)trying something as a display of their power while Van Hollen is there. It is a lawless country and has been for many decades. The filth and stench of Kissinger, Abrams etc. is very strong and I suspect some of the same players of the last 50 years are plying their evil still to this day. US officials ran cover for several massacres of villagers etc.
ReRe
(12,189 posts)many of them probably graduated form our own dictator school called "The School of the Americas".
moniss
(9,150 posts)training camp.
Joinfortmill
(21,679 posts)Emile
(43,290 posts)Joinfortmill
(21,679 posts)in2herbs
(4,540 posts)Joinfortmill
(21,679 posts)bottomofthehill
(9,424 posts)They have no authority, they are taking a personal trip. I know it sounds official, but they are not representing the U.S. government. The position of the government is pretty clear.
returnee
(981 posts)designation as an official congressional delegation, which would afford them some protections. Some repubs joining would also help. All they need to do is get Comer to approve it. Not holding my breath.
bottomofthehill
(9,424 posts)Senator Risch is not going to grant something that the trump admin does not want. Also, he did not announce it as a CODEL (See Below)
Following his request to meet with Salvadoran President Bukele and his announced intent to visit El Salvador earlier this week, U.S. Senator Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.) released the following statement this evening, announcing his departure for El Salvador tomorrow:
Following his abduction and unlawful deportation, U.S. federal courts have ordered the safe return of my constituent Kilmar Abrego Garcia to the United States. It should be a priority of the U.S. government to secure his safe release, which is why tomorrow I am traveling to El Salvador. My hope is to visit Kilmar and check on his wellbeing and to hold constructive conversations with government officials around his release. We must urgently continue working to return Kilmar safely home to Maryland.
returnee
(981 posts)I was speaking about Garcia in the House. I thought they were trying to make plans for joint trip under CODEL.
lindysalsagal
(22,999 posts)They are hoping the entire contingent will also become incarcerated.
hadEnuf
(3,657 posts)We need to have the attitude that if these fascists even blink we will be on them like white on rice.
karin_sj
(1,385 posts)And please, stay safe.
Quanto Magnus
(1,379 posts)they will arrest and deport Van Hollen
Mtnmama
(167 posts)and thank you for showing humanity and courage during this unforgivable act of evil trump and his administration are perpetrating. God be with you.
TNNurse
(7,550 posts)Seriously worried.
Frasier Balzov
(5,108 posts)If he is detained there, Trump won't lift a finger to rescue him.
wordstroken
(1,406 posts)Please be safe Senator. 🙏
Sanity Claws
(22,440 posts)I am sure he has thought about this and knows the risks. He probably has made some plans or arrangements if this happens. The plans may not save him but will keep the news front and center. Or so I hope.
ecstatic
(35,135 posts)I truly believe that we're dealing with a super corrupt criminal and homicidal administration. Now that they've gotten away with so much so far, it won't be long before detainments and executions begin.
I mean, who is going to stop them?
trump ended today with more market manipulation. OBVIOUS insider trading. But he fired the watchdogs... so now what?
valleyrogue
(2,795 posts)I remember too well what happened with Leo Ryan visiting Guyana back in 1978.
Foolhardy and dangerous this idea is, and with no evidence Garcia is even alive.
orangecrush
(31,182 posts)And return safely.
H2O Man
(79,258 posts)I find myself thinking of Rep.Leo Ryan going on a similar trip.
Abolishinist
(3,057 posts)and I though hmmm, Runnin' With The Devil might work!
leftstreet
(41,262 posts)I ignored the thread at first, thinking "yeah whatever" LOL
Prairie Gates
(8,479 posts)This is like the mission to Jonestown. Be careful on the runway, homie!
k_buddy762
(638 posts)
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