So when do the talibangelical restrictions on women's rights, activities, dress,

[niyad]

etc. commence in full? We are already being fired, being erased, our autonomy denied. So are they going to go full taliban immediately, or do we get to experience regency/victorian structures/strictures first as a step to gilead?

[lindysalsagal]

1. If the senate passes the save act, the offices that could issue positive ID are no longer staffed.

Authoritarian playbook. That's why corrupt countries do all business by cash bribes.

This is why his minions will do his dirty work.

[Irish_Dem]

2. All women will have to get the Trump Tramp look.

American men love skin and boobs.
So the opposite of the Taliban.

American women have to look like Kristi Noem, and Melania.

Huge boob job, lots of botox, hair exertions, plastic surgery to make big fish lips.
Tons of make up and tight clothing, low cut bodice, short skirt, stiletto heels.

If you don't look like that, you go to jail.

[Maru Kitteh]

4. Gender education camp for the young.

Those of us over 50, into the box cars.

[Irish_Dem]

11. Except those willing to provide child care 24/7.

[SheltieLover]

3. I've been wondering this as well

[niyad]

6. Frightening, is it not?

[SheltieLover]

8. Yes, it is!

Steven Miller's fingerprints are all over this! Jmo, of course...

[WhiskeyGrinder]

5. It has nothing to do with Islam or Afghanistan so there's no reason to invoke the Taliban. The bigotry and oppression is

100% homegrown American and using other cultures to describe it makes it easier to pretend this is an outside or un-American influence when the reality is this country has always been built on these principles.

Asking the question with your framing also ignores the body-, appearance- and gender-policing that many marginalized populations have faced throughout the history of this country -- Black, Native, enslaved, immigrant, fat, GNC, and so on. Just because it's happening to white women doesn't mean it's new.

[niyad]

7. I have been calling them talibangelicals for years, to show how similar

they are, to make a point.

And why focus only on appearance, when I mentioned other things as well? You are, of course, perfectly free to post your own OP on your noted area of concern, which would be of great interest, but don't impute something to me that I did not say. Nothing in my OP referred to white women only, so your criticism is unfounded.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

10. What is the point, though? It makes it sound like oppressing women is something exotic and un-American

when it’s clear that oppression is something this country does very well. It’s actually one of the criticisms of the Handmaid’s Tale, which you also reference. The book’s shock factor is that white women are subjected to the conditions Black women were under slavery in the U.S. Black women’s “rights, activities, dress, etc.” have been routinely policed more harshly throughout history here than white women’s. So have Black men’s. Native people’s. And so on. But when women are targeted *as a group* — and let’s be honest, white women make up the largest part of that group — all of a sudden, it’s “what are we, a bunch of Afghans lol???” Until we reckon with it honestly, we’ll never dismantle it.

[Sky Jewels]

9. In this country, Christianity is a huuuuuge part of the problem.

The dumb Christian mythologies were made up by primitive goatherders who didn't know the Earth orbited the sun. And big surprise that a patriarchal culture made the main characters of the myths male, like God/Yahweh, Jesus, Abraham, Noah, Moses, etc. etc. Eve was a scapegoat and Mary was a rape victim and a vessel for the cruel male sky god.