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[sop]

1. The Democratic governor of Pennsylvania can stop the killing of Palestinians in Gaza?

Who knew?

[yardwork]

11. Well, he is Jewish and so it's all his fault. /sarcasm

[Sympthsical]

2. Well, that's going to complicate the narrative

[RJ-MacReady]

3. Ughhh yup

Our side needs to come out forcefully against this and frankly we need to chastised these protestors. They are not our friends and its time we stop worry about offending them.

[Sympthsical]

10. It'll get dropped like a hot potato

In three weeks, we’ll barely remember the story.

We live in an unfortunate age where things are valued solely by political usefulness.

The story is no longer useful.

[yardwork]

12. Not really.

It doesn't complicate it for me, at all.

[Sympthsical]

14. Lol, well

You and I had little trouble in believing the distinct possibility.

I’m really annoyed with the usual grifters though. When the story popped, twitterati like Chris Evans and others cherry-picked from the assailant’s social media to give the impression of a crazed MAGA inspired by Trump. But if you looked at the totality of the guy’s socials, you’d peg the probable radical protester right away.

The initial “reporting” was deliberately deceptive. And eagerly gobbled up.

And now it’ll be silence. People like that don’t actually care. They perform caring as long as it’s politically expedient. Once it’s not, the act is dropped, and it’s on to the next thing.

Like watching garbage trucks work in real time. Usually I’m in pajamas in my driveway when I want that sort of action.

[yardwork]

18. The outcome of choosing sides and making judgments based on ideology.

For many people, actions speak louder than words. We see a crowd of people accusing a decent man of being "genocide Joe" and we recoil. We see masked people throwing red paint on Jewish people's homes and we say, "They don't speak for me." We see posters urging others to "send a message to the Democrats by electing Trump" and we think that's a really dumb idea.

Others cheer and go along with it. I don't understand those people. I don't distinguish hate from hate because "my sports team is right all the time."

And I don't believe in four-dimensional chess.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

37. The guy is a confirmed full on maga hat wearing nut job kicked out of school groups because he is a white supremacist.

Looks like Chris Evans was correct.

At least some of this guy’s supposed support for Palestinians was either full on faked (the supposed photo of him holding a banner) or twisted (the quote that could have been taken either way but looked to me like he was ridiculing anti trump protestors).

Like I said elsewhere in this thread, I’ve seen plenty of “support” of Palestinians by outright Nazi Jew haters on Twitter.

[Sympthsical]

38. I think you're confusing assailants

Or conflating the FSU guy with the Shapiro attacker.

Balmer is 38. He stated to law enforcement Palestine was his motivation. Kind of an anarchist sort.

White supremacist kicked out of student groups was the FSU shooter.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

39. I think you are correct

[Sympthsical]

40. Don't worry about it

So much awful crazy going on right now, who can keep up?

[Paladin]

4. Unsurprising.

Hope this guy spends the rest of his life in prison.

[Passages]

5. Completely irrational and it leaves Shapiro's kids traumatized.

Horrifying.

[Polybius]

6. But I read here that he was MAGA

Were they mistaken?

[yardwork]

13. Here's a hint: MAGAs don't like Jewish people.

[Polybius]

15. Here's another:

They don't like Palestinians either.

[yardwork]

16. Maybe this guy isn't a MAGA.

Maybe he's another kind of bigoted violent hater.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

22. I don't have an opinion on this guy but I've seen some hardcore magat antisemitic jagoffs that hate Jews so much...

… you would think they are Palestinian activists the way they use Gaza as a cudgel.

This guy is constantly posting about Israel murdering civilians but he doesn’t give a fuck about Palestinians. He just hates Jews that much.

There are tons of this type of Holocaust denying maga who have taken up the cause.

Link to tweet

[JI7]

23. Andrew Tate and Dan Bilzerian also

and Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens

[JohnSJ]

26. Yes, and a good number on the left have a "Jewish problem" also, which no one likes

to talk about.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

30. Turns out the guy was full on maga hat wearing winger kicked out of student groups for being a Nazi....literally.

Like I said upthread there are plenty of Jew haters that have taken up the cause so they can call Jews murderous animals. They are all over twitter. They wouldn’t piss on a Palestinian if they were on fire.

[JohnSJ]

33. No surprise. Hate is hate.

[Behind the Aegis]

35. One would think so, but when it comes to Jews, it often seems "conditional."

I know you know what I mean.

[JohnSJ]

36. I do.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

41. Wrong guy. I had the perps mixed up.

[JohnSJ]

42. Ok

[obamanut2012]

31. He has also espoused RW views

[delisen]

7. Balmer turned himself in.

Ballmer reports he has a grievance on behalf of friends and shows he identifies as Palestinian when he says “our people.” There is no evidence he is Palestinian.

He caused significant damage to property which possibly could have caused injury or death to residents in the house.

He admitted he carried a weapon that was not a gun and would have beaten Shapiro but apparently did not seek to find him once inside.

He turned himself in as though he believed he was committing an act of civil disobedience and wanted to take full responsibility for his actions.

Is this scenario similar in anyway to the attack on Nancy Pelosi’s husband or any of the other attacks/killings by young men where political events or ideology combined with emotional or mental instability result in criminal acts?

[sakabatou]

8. An excuse for their antisemitism

[UTUSN]

9. Without credentials, I am giving credence to the mother's saying he is ill and off his meds.

And as shown by his actions. If the mother proves out to be lying, another story.

[JI7]

20. Well, there were people actually saying he shouldn't be VP because

it would turn off people like this from voting for Harris.

[JohnSJ]

27. and some of those same people still didn't vote for VP Harris with their chants of

"genocide Kamala, genocide Joe"

[Meowmee]

21. So he was a left wing anti- semite.. not a winger

[JI7]

24. He said Biden should die and same with Biden supporters

maybe he was the far left which is anti liberal and has more in common with the right wing.

but he wasn't liberal left.

[Meowmee]

25. Sadly there are plenty of other variety of left D who are anti-semitic though

I don't support any of them whatever you want to label them as. He seems to be crazy, I guess more will come out in time.

[yardwork]

28. I see no evidence that he was left-wing.

[Meowmee]

29. I do, but time will tell.. mostly he seems crazy to me... certainly hating B etc. seems more right wing

[Mountainguy]

32. A few weeks ago i mentioned

That there was some significant left wing extremist violence as well, and got responses that that wasn't true and it was all RWTP.

Sorry, but it is true and we shouldn't be defending it any more than right wing extremism.