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pnwest

(3,478 posts)
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 05:44 PM Apr 2025

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FadedMullet

(1,019 posts)
1. I hate to say it, but the other inmates might be motivated to kill him to draw attention to the brutal conditions.
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 05:48 PM
Apr 2025

pnwest

(3,478 posts)
3. There's also the original threat from which he was fleeing
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 05:53 PM
Apr 2025

He was threatened, his whole family was threatened, if he didn't join MS13 or make payments to them. They may have carried it out.

Irish_Dem

(82,386 posts)
9. Yes he refused to join the gang and refused to pay bribes to them.
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 06:13 PM
Apr 2025

The prison gang may not take kindly to this.

enid602

(9,756 posts)
2. DAE
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 05:50 PM
Apr 2025

DAE?

pnwest

(3,478 posts)
4. "Does anyone else"
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 05:53 PM
Apr 2025

MissLilyBart

(166 posts)
6. DAE "Does anyone else"...
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 05:54 PM
Apr 2025

if I recall correctly (or, as they say on the interwebs, IIRC).

obamanut2012

(29,516 posts)
5. Probably
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 05:54 PM
Apr 2025

20% chance he isn't, and we see an Otto Warbier "confession" on tv.

orangecrush

(31,182 posts)
7. Even if he is alive physically
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 06:01 PM
Apr 2025

He is dead for all practical purposes.

Death would likely be preferable to living out ones life in that hellhole

pnwest

(3,478 posts)
8. I hope he's holding on to hope for now.
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 06:08 PM
Apr 2025

Even though he has no way of knowing what steps are being taken on his behalf, if he's still alive, I hope he's still hoping.

Native

(7,389 posts)
10. I've been thinking that too...and especially because the only thing they said in their update to the courts was
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 06:18 PM
Apr 2025

basically that he's alive, and they always say and do the opposite of reality.

pnwest

(3,478 posts)
14. Ain't that the truth.
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 07:49 PM
Apr 2025

Does not bode well.

lamp_shade

(15,522 posts)
11. So do I.... and BEFORE he left the U.S.
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 06:19 PM
Apr 2025

maxsolomon

(39,144 posts)
12. Idle speculation.
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 06:28 PM
Apr 2025

It doesn't "seem sure" that Abrego-Garcia is dead. The Senator getting stonewalled by the Salvadorans doesn't prove anything - it was predictable, and he cannot be surprised.

We simply have no information.

pnwest

(3,478 posts)
15. Speculation? Yes. Idle? No.
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 07:52 PM
Apr 2025

And perhaps I should say it "sure seems to me", anyway.

Believe me, nothing would make me happier than to be wrong, and I'll happily eat crow.

 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
13. I'm surprised he has lived as long as he has if he still is alive.
Wed Apr 16, 2025, 06:38 PM
Apr 2025

It's worse than death row when you don't know just when it is coming or how.

Volaris

(11,801 posts)
16. Right now i think the odds are 3 to 1 against, but theres a clock running.
Thu Apr 17, 2025, 09:25 AM
Apr 2025

End of April, 2 to 1.
May 15, even odds either way no bet.
If he's not back here by Memorial Day, he's not coming back without a bag wrapped around him.
No matter what, he CANNOT be allowed to talk to the Press or the Courts.

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