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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums'Finally, the Trump regime has met its match' Robert Reich
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/17/trump-china-harvard-supreme-court'The administration dared China, Harvard and the supreme court to blink. They havent'
'...Encouraged by the ease with which many big US institutions caved in to their demands, the Trump regime...the small cadre of bottom-feeding fanatics around Donald Trump (JD Vance, Elon Musk, Russell Vought, Stephen Miller and RFK Jr)...have overreached. Theyve dared China, Harvard and the supreme court to blink. But guess what? Theyve met their matches. None of them has blinked and they wont.
China not only refused to back down when the Trump regime threatened it with huge tariffs, but also retaliated with huge tariffs of its own, plus a freeze on the export of rare-earth elements that the USs high-tech and defense industries depend on.
Harvard also pointedly defied the regime, issuing a clear rebuke to its attempt to interfere with academic freedom...The supreme court in a rare unanimous decision ordered Trump to facilitate the return of a legal US resident wrongly deported to a dangerous prison in El Salvador, without any criminal charges.
But the White House was defiant. On Monday, both Trump officials and El Salvadors president, Nayib Bukele, said they could not return Kilmar Ábrego García....Of course, Im not going to do it, Bukele said when asked. Trump sat by his side with a smile on his face. The US attorney general, Pam Bondi, joined in the cruel imitation of justice: Thats up to El Salvador if they want to return him.
Whats next?..I suspect the testosterone-poisoned lackeys around King Trump are urging him to hit back even harder, escalating their confrontations with China, Harvard and the supreme court. They view these showdowns as ultimate tests of the regimes strength.
Think of it they must be telling themselves and their boss what prizes! If they defeat China, they have brought the worlds other economic powerhouse to its knees!
If they defeat Harvard University, they have been victorious over the worlds intellectual powerhouse!...Win these battles and no one will ever again doubt the power and resolve of the Trump regime!
Hopefully, Trump is smarter than this. He knows these three institutions will not back down. They are rich and powerful enough to defy Trumps escalating threats and demands. They cannot and will not cower....If Trump escalates his wars against them, theyll become even stronger in the eyes of their supporters and constituents, and much of the world...
Best_man23
(5,269 posts)They know the Convicted Felon does NOT have the upper hand on them. As the gentleman in the one video clip from a couple days ago said "China has existed for 5,000 years".
Harvard (as the TLP's Stuart Stevens described it) is "a hedge fund that offers classes". Harvard University has an endowment fund approaching a value equal to some large corporations. Additionally, it has a law school alumni base whose graduates sit at nearly every level of the legal system from state courts up to the SCOTUS and at law firms whose attorneys charge four figures an hour for their legal services. I'm pretty certain an extremely robust legal defense of the university is or in the process of being formed.
As for SCOTUS, I think Roberts and the conservative justices NOT named Thomas or Alito are likely coming to the realization their relevance as a co-equal branch of the US government is now in jeopardy. Pretty certain that is why they went 9-0 on the Kilmar Abrego Garcia decision and stating that anyone coming into DHS/ICE custody must be afforded due process before they can be expelled from the US.
louis-t
(24,654 posts)It's time Roberts realizes that if he gives trmp all the power he craves, SC will be expendable.
SayItLoud
(1,774 posts)PortTack
(35,824 posts)Intention of keeping them if he were to gain total control.
NoMoreRepugs
(12,234 posts)JT45242
(4,140 posts)China could essentially do to mango Mussolini economically what the Russians did to Napoleon and Hitler and go scorched earth knowing that they can outlast our supply chains.
Counting on Mango Mussolini and his e to be smart is a fool's errand. They are dumb, arrogant, and working under the orders of foreign influence like Putin and Bone saw.
But...at what point will the military industrial complex say they have had enough and step up as well.
newdeal2
(5,622 posts)They are projecting strength because of the weakness of their ideas. People needed to wisen up and resist - they are not all powerful and this regime can fall pretty quickly. It wont be easy but its better than the alternative.
Javaman
(65,981 posts)once he crumbles or goes away, everything they believed they have built, will collapse.
PortTack
(35,824 posts)BumRushDaShow
(172,351 posts)And from the above, this got me to
And so he is whining on the sidelines and hasn't touched Powell, but that didn't stop him from illegally firing a pile of IGs as well as various Board & Commission members (like those in NLRB, MSPB, FTC, & FCC, etc).
Back in March, this happened -
Leah Nylen, Catarina Saraiva and Greg Stohr
21 March 2025
(Bloomberg) -- Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell has been crystal clear about whether President Donald Trump can fire him. Not permitted under the law, he said twice when asked in November. Powell, whos had the job since 2018, may soon find out if he was right.
On Tuesday, the Trump administration dismissed the Federal Trade Commissions two Democratic commissioners, Alvaro Bedoya and Rebecca Kelly Slaughter. The firings are the most direct challenge yet to a 1935 Supreme Court decision that paved the way for the independent agencies that now populate the US government. The ruling, known as Humphreys Executor, let Congress give FTC commissioners job protections that shield them from dismissal except for neglect or malfeasance.
In an interview with Bloomberg TV, Slaughter, who plans to sue, said her dismissal has ramifications beyond the antitrust and consumer protection agency. There is no legal difference between Jerome Powell and me, she said. If the president can legally remove me, he can legally remove Jerome Powell.
Trump has a long record of criticizing Powell, but the FTC firings are ramping up concern among Wall Street investors and economists that the Feds independence may now be in true jeopardy.
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Ocelot II
(131,252 posts)BumRushDaShow
(172,351 posts)The DOJ OIG Michael Horowitz, who was spared (so far) - Michael Horowitz approaches stormy path in Trump administration
Gordcanuck
(199 posts)mainly that this regime, masquerading as a presidency, has teeth. They are ICE (the Gestapo thought police) and in the wings, a quietly building army of storm troopers headed by one Eric Prince, the mercenary master.
Your great nation has never been in more danger over your passivity. Rise up or be rolled over by the fascists.
Fiendish Thingy
(24,118 posts)For all the evil he has done, for all the evil we could imagine him doing, there is the hard cold reality that there are things he cannot control.
PortTack
(35,824 posts)Paladin
(32,354 posts)Count on the Brits for a perfectly-constructed description.
Dan
(5,296 posts)That took a knee, appear even weaker.
calimary
(90,830 posts)azureblue
(2,749 posts)No, he is not. He has lost his mind, and reacts to push back with more bullying. And never stops to think if his push back will work. See China, that simply escalated. He will never accept defeat or compromise, so he is headed off the cliff, by his own actions..
IronLionZion
(51,559 posts)Way to antagonize everyone quickly
Martin68
(28,080 posts)fascists.
IronLionZion
(51,559 posts)it would be comparable to invading Poland maybe.
Martin68
(28,080 posts)Justice matters.
(10,091 posts)And to have direct access to the northern passage (entirely) as the polar ice melts and polar bears die.
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)PUTIN wants Iceland, Greenland, and Canada......big time and will use Trump and Republicans to get it for him.
Putin wants to create a northern passage for shipping, which would necessitate him having those countries. He is already building a large number of Heavy Duty Nuclear Powered Ice Breakers. He also wants Russia to stake claim to the un-fathomable amount of Oil and minerals located in and under Canada......
Martin68
(28,080 posts)to start paying attention, and then start helping in whatever small way they can. We WILL WIN this fight.
Haru
(56 posts)He cannot will good economic conditions. He will crash all around him and us.
AKwannabe
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Kali999
(289 posts)Good post and comments.
LizVerite
(30 posts)Does he create chaos and deep uncertainty on purpose? Is that just the way his mind works?
I do not and have never understood his appeal. He literally makes me feel ill.
I think he'll do whatever he wants in the moment. It seems that the consequences have to harm him before he'll change.
blubunyip
(309 posts)Mary Trump predicted that a second Donald term would likely destroy American Democracy. Was she ever correct...
maxsolomon
(39,144 posts)He's not.
Godot51
(833 posts)Sadly, trump is not "smarter than this".
His cadre of handlers and sycophants are not "smarter than this".
They are simply lights on, nobody home types whose latest "thoughts" are their latest "policies".
PortTack
(35,824 posts)That he actually feels we are far from underwater.
We all need to keep up our resistance, no matter how seemingly small!
Jack Valentino
(5,252 posts)and he has dementia
Skittles
(172,910 posts)EVERYONE should be standing up to him, he is a fucking BUFFOON
Meowmee
(9,212 posts)Time to stop talking about this psychopath as if he is normal in any way imo.
So far he ignored sc, is doing nothing about bringing back Abrego Garcia and will now build more prisons for US citizens. As for Harvard, more attacks are on the way, they will try to get rid of their tax exempt status, lets see what happens. They have a huge endowment. China, nothing they do is going to be good imo, do not forget that CCP is the enemy not a friend.
The best thing imo, although I am certainly not happy about it is he has damaged the market and world finances, so money people and others are worried now. But I don't think it will be enough for R to get rid of him.
returnee
(981 posts)But not holding my breath. I worry about the Trump card of violence via the military, National Guard, and militias. I put nothing past these Putinites, especially if cornered.
Cosmocat
(15,473 posts)China beat him the last time, he just bailed out our famers, retreated and everyone forgot about it.
This time he went WAY too far, and as a second and bigger cut at it put them in the position to dig deeper. The are smarter, tougher and have more on us than we have on the them - our debt, our reliance on them for these types of vital elements. But, more than that, he has alienated the rest of the entire planet and destroyed all the good will and soft power that we had banked. Heck, Japan is cutting us loose and siding with China, and Canada and the EU are aligning against him/us.
To use a hold um term, he/we are drawing dead after the flop. Can't win it.
Its all fine and well that the Supreme Court has unified on this one particular core issue, but with 6 right wingers, they are mostly in league with him on most of his other horrible intentions. This does not signal some kind of overall break, just one matter that somehow the light cuts through to their craven souls.
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