ICE agents--armed and dressed in full military-style tactical gear--boarded the train.

[IrishBubbaLiberal]

Just like NAZI GERMANY in Trump’s Totalitarian USA.




A co-worker of mine (who is a judge), traveled by train from Montana to North Dakota for work this week. The train made a stop in Havre, MT, where ICE agents—armed and dressed in full military-style tactical gear—boarded the train.


https://weknowwhatsup.blogspot.com/2025/04/the-new-america-federal-ice-agents.html?m=1

[Bluethroughu]

1. Despicable.

If I were an ICE AGENT I'D QUIT, because the CONSTITUTION COMES BEFORE A PAYCHECK!

[riversedge]

5. I think many are enjoying it--a big badge, loaded guns demanding papers!

[Walleye]

6. Unfortunately, I think a lot of them like this authoritarian stuff

[Luvcatz14]

12. We should see names and faces

Of all of them. Out in the open for the world to see.

[wcmagumba]

2. ICE should change its acronym to ASS...

[IrishBubbaLiberal]

3. Knows Your Rights, while in transit

https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/immigrants-rights#i-was-stopped-by-police-ice-or-border-patrol-while-in-transit

(…………)

Your rights

In a car:
Drivers and passengers have the right to remain silent. If you are a passenger, you can ask if you are free to leave. If the officer says yes, calmly leave.
If an officer or immigration agent asks to look inside your car, you can refuse to consent to the search. But if police generally believe that your car contains evidence of a crime, your car can be searched without your consent.

In addition to police, Border Patrol conduct “roving patrols” around the interior of the U.S., pulling over motorists. Border Patrol must have reasonable suspicion that the driver or passengers in the car committed an immigration violation or a federal crime.

Any arrest or prolonged stop by Border Patrol requires probable cause. You may ask the agents about the basis for probable cause, and they should tell you. In this situation, both the driver and any passengers have the right to remain silent and not answer questions about their immigration status.

On an airplane:
A pilot may refuse to fly a passenger if he or she reasonably believes that the passenger is a threat to flight safety. A pilot may not, however, question you or refuse to allow you on a flight because of bias based on your religion, race, national origin, gender, ethnicity, or political beliefs.

If you believe you are mistakenly on a “no-fly” list, you should review our guidance on No-Fly lists here.

On buses and trains:
Border Patrol agents may board buses and trains in the 100-mile border region either at the station or while the bus is on its journey. More than one officer usually boards the bus, and they will ask passengers questions about their immigration status, ask passengers to show them immigration documents, or both.

These questions should be brief and related to verifying one’s lawful presence in the U.S. You are not required to answer and can simply say you do not wish to do so. As always, you have the right to remain silent.


If you believe your rights were violated

Write down everything you remember, including officers’ badges and patrol car numbers, which agency the officers were from, and any other details. Get contact information from witnesses.

If you’re injured, seek medical attention immediately and take photographs of your injuries.

File a written complaint with the agency’s internal affairs division or civilian complaint board. In most cases, you can file a complaint anonymously.

Additional resources


If you need more information, contact your local ACLU affiliate.

National Immigration Law Center: Know Your Rights
A Toolkit for Organizations Responding to Mass Worksite Immigration Raids
Immigrant Legal Resource Center
American Immigration Lawyers Association

[calimary]

14. Good info. Thanks, IrishBubbaLiberal!

[Gore1FL]

17. I would add, record or livestream every interaction.

Ask for names and badge numbers. Exercise 1, 4, and 5. Announce you are doing so.

[Dawson Leery]

4. ICE is the American SS.

[Ping Tung]

7. ICE is populated by the kind of people who wear camouflage underwear.

[Jilly_in_VA]

8. That reminds me of a true story

My late ex and I were having dinner with our daughter, who was then about 19. At the next table sat the local sheriff and several of his cronies. (The sheriff happened to be a guy we weren't particularly partial to, but no matter.) We noticed he was wearing a jacket embroidered with "Sheriff X. X." and when he took that off, his shirt was embroidered likewise, and his belt was embossed with the same legend. Daughter leaned over to us and whispered, "Do you suppose he has 'Sherif X. X" embroidered on his underwear too?" It was all I could do not to fall out laughing.

[Irish_Dem]

9. I would not tell them a thing.

[allegorical oracle]

10. A librarian friend of mine traveled (about 20 yrs ago) to Russia one summer. She

said that any time you boarded or changed trains, all your belongings -- luggage and purses -- were searched by Russian soldiers. She said she got used to it, and they didn't hassle her because she was American, but she said it was still terrifying.

[jalan48]

11. Trump's shock troops going public. I'll be curious to see when they start showing up at protests.

[Mike 03]

13. Sounds like a scene out of "Inglorious Basterds"

I just wonder how they see their actions in the context of some timeline. I'm not the only person who is saying "Something Changed" over the last 10 (or so) days.

Months ago, Elon Musk said or tweeted (I'm paraphrasing) "We're never going to have this chance again. The planets have aligned. We're never going to be in this position again so we really have to go for it."

I think they know what they are doing is positively outrageous. What does it mean that they are doing this, in full view, with apparently no attempt to conceal some of the worst behaviors, at least as far as we can tell.

It's super obvious they don't care:

1. What most American citizens think
2. What international reporters, commentators and important leaders think
3. What the established laws are

Sorry for the meandering post. Like you all, I see exactly what is happening--but there's something I can't put my finger on... Something about this is almost too confrontational to believe. It's like they want a showdown, or a "riot", or maybe are trying to press America into violence.

[calimary]

15. Your instincts sound pretty solid, Mike 03.

Kinda sounds like they’re trying to provoke. Trying to find “the breaking point” (where they’re “allowed” to start breaking bones, and heads).

[Mr. Evil]

16. Sending in the clowns,

to come for the browns.

This is just one giant dog and pony show. Ratings, ratings, ratings!

[lindysalsagal]

18. maga wants us to forget our own civil rights. They want us to turn on each other.

First lgbtq, then immigrants. That's just to get everyone else compliant.

[sl8]

19. Border Patrol claims it was them, not ICE.

https://www.havredailynews.com/story/2025/04/17/local/ice-questions-amtrak-passengers-in-havre-about-citizenship/547792.html

[IrishBubbaLiberal]

20. I read that BUT photo shows is "ICE" and "POLICE", not Border Agents

If the photo used is actually from when these
….Armed…Soldiers… Police.. ICE asked everyone on train their
citizenship…

Then DOES IT REALLY MATTER “ICE” or BORDER AGENTS

ITS THE SAME INTIMIDATION AND HARASSMENT NO MATTER
WHAT BRANCH OF GESTAPO WAS ON TRAIN

Again…. IF that photo is from that same ‘event’,
Then those military looking SOLDIERS with “POLICE” and “ICE”
on their military gear ….

How can they be US BORDER AGENTS??

[sl8]

21. Yes, I just posted about that in the other thread.

My other post:

The photo in the OP seems at odds with the CBP claims, though.

There's no caption for the photo, so I'm not sure if it's a file photo or a photo taken during this incident.