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ArnoldLayne

(2,265 posts)
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 04:43 PM Apr 2025

Can Senator Van Hollen legally be allowed to run for President in 2028?

I checked and saw he was born in Karachi, Pakistan. His parents worked for the American Government though. I was just wondering if he was born on US territory in an Embassy making it legal like John McCain being born in the Panama Canal Zone. I hope Senator Van Hollen would be eligible to run for the Presidency.

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Can Senator Van Hollen legally be allowed to run for President in 2028? (Original Post) ArnoldLayne Apr 2025 OP
I think "natural born citzen" is the criteria SSJVegeta Apr 2025 #1
I was wondering he seems like he would be a very good candidate ArnoldLayne Apr 2025 #3
Yes he can just like Sen. John McCain. He was born in Panama. SalamanderSleeps Apr 2025 #2
Both his parents are/were citizens dflprincess Apr 2025 #4
Yes, he and his parents were and are U.S. citizens. elleng Apr 2025 #5
Both his parents were US Citizens, right? RandomNumbers Apr 2025 #6
I'm more concerned about the Logan act Tickle Apr 2025 #7
The Logan Act applies only to private citizens. Van Hollen is a Senator. Ocelot II Apr 2025 #14
I believe they can. It almost doesn't matter Tickle Apr 2025 #15
Of course he can. Progressive dog Apr 2025 #8
Yes. Mike 03 Apr 2025 #9
I'm just crossing my fingers, and hoping that "Orange Baby Man" will choke on his own formula. eom SalamanderSleeps Apr 2025 #11
I'm sure Ted Cruz will object, while running himself. OnDoutside Apr 2025 #10
He's great flamingdem Apr 2025 #12
Here are his progressive vote scores chowder66 Apr 2025 #13
He definitely would have my vote also. ArnoldLayne Apr 2025 #16

SSJVegeta

(2,980 posts)
1. I think "natural born citzen" is the criteria
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 04:47 PM
Apr 2025

Which im guessing he is based on what you are saying.

SalamanderSleeps

(1,036 posts)
2. Yes he can just like Sen. John McCain. He was born in Panama.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 04:48 PM
Apr 2025

Foreign, and Armed, Service kids are "necessary" citizens.

Who would want to serve their country overseas if they had to leave their progeny behind?

But then, this is the era of "The Orange Stain."

dflprincess

(29,397 posts)
4. Both his parents are/were citizens
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 04:50 PM
Apr 2025

So, yes he was born a citizen even though he was not born in the U.S.

elleng

(141,926 posts)
5. Yes, he and his parents were and are U.S. citizens.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 04:50 PM
Apr 2025

I'm glad he is 'my' senator, and hope he remains such.

Van Hollen was born in Karachi, Pakistan, the eldest of three children of American parents, Edith Eliza (née Farnsworth) and Christopher Van Hollen.[6][7] His father was a Foreign Service officer who served as deputy assistant secretary of state for Near Eastern Affairs (1969–1972) and U.S. ambassador to Sri Lanka and the Maldives (1972–1976);[8] his mother worked in the Central Intelligence Agency and the State Department, where she served as chief of the intelligence bureau for South Asia.[7][9] He spent parts of his early life in Pakistan, Turkey, India, and Sri Lanka.[9][10] He returned to the United States for his junior year of high school, and attended Middlesex School in Concord, Massachusetts, where his grandfather had once taught.[9]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Van_Hollen

RandomNumbers

(19,227 posts)
6. Both his parents were US Citizens, right?
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 04:51 PM
Apr 2025

So by any normal reading, he is eligible. (But then, our opponents are not normal, so there's that.)

https://www.history.com/articles/what-are-the-qualifications-to-be-president-of-the-united-states

The Founders universally supported a citizenship requirement, and there wouldn’t have been any confusion about what it meant to be a “natural born” citizen. That language was common in 18th-century British law, which recognized all children born to British parents as “natural-born subjects,” even if they were born outside the British Empire.

Note that the framers were careful to include the clause “​​at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution,” to waive the “natural-born” requirement for prominent delegates like Robert Morris and James Wilson, who were born to British parents outside of the American Colonies (England and Scotland respectively).
 

Tickle

(4,131 posts)
7. I'm more concerned about the Logan act
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 04:54 PM
Apr 2025

He was rejected rejected and rejected. Then he gets a call to see him. Sounds like a set up to me

 

Tickle

(4,131 posts)
15. I believe they can. It almost doesn't matter
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 06:20 PM
Apr 2025

The administration wouldn't win, but they could still bankrupt him in trying.

Mike 03

(18,690 posts)
9. Yes.
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 04:57 PM
Apr 2025

But expect Trump to play dirt as hell with anyone who looks like a promising rival, emulating Putin's tactics. Expect to see more of our best and brightest investigated and accused of "mortgage fraud" and tax evasion or whatever filthy and frivolous allegations his personal DOJ can throw at them.

We'll need to figure out a tactic to deal with Putinesque tactics like those. Maybe there are legal mechanisms in the United States that will make it harder to do this here than in Russia, where it proceeds unencumbered, decade after decade.

SalamanderSleeps

(1,036 posts)
11. I'm just crossing my fingers, and hoping that "Orange Baby Man" will choke on his own formula. eom
Fri Apr 18, 2025, 05:09 PM
Apr 2025
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