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Trump will try to force a MAGA pope on us. (Original Post) Kingofalldems Apr 2025 OP
If we get one, it won't be because of trump. themaguffin Apr 2025 #1
Doubtful about success. Pope Francis no_hypocrisy Apr 2025 #2
Francis appointed most of the current Cardinals. Ocelot II Apr 2025 #3
He's got next to no influence on that decision. n/t Ms. Toad Apr 2025 #4
No. Francis stacked the deck with 109 Cardinals DenaliDemocrat Apr 2025 #5
Using the overnight tweet Bully Pulpit to bully the Cardinals bucolic_frolic Apr 2025 #6
Trump can't threaten Cardinals with a primary challenger, or excommunication. sop Apr 2025 #7
There is no question he will try. Kingofalldems Apr 2025 #8
His "trying" will consist of some typically mean, deranged Xeets Ocelot II Apr 2025 #11
What's he gonna do? Put a tariff on the Vatican? Send them to El Salvador? Irish_Dem Apr 2025 #9
Does The Vatican even import anything? Other than from Italy? Aristus Apr 2025 #10
That's my point. Trump's usual threats won't work. Irish_Dem Apr 2025 #13
He put tariffs on an island full of penguins. BlueTsunami2018 Apr 2025 #14
I think the Vatican might export various relics and religious tchotchkes. Ocelot II Apr 2025 #18
He can threaten to allow easier pathways for claims against U.S. dioceses. John1956PA Apr 2025 #19
I don't think US Cardinals have much influence in Rome... Wounded Bear Apr 2025 #12
Never gonna happen. Norbert Apr 2025 #15
Like this one Clouds Passing Apr 2025 #16
He'll need 88 more SSJVegeta Apr 2025 #17
Already screwed himself.. Totally Tunsie Apr 2025 #20
He doesn't have that kind of influence, at all. obamanut2012 Apr 2025 #21
No that doesn't happen until after the funeral SocialDemocrat61 Apr 2025 #23
Is Donnie looking for a part time job in Rome? Will he build a casino and install an inside golf iv;in n the Vatican? Ping Tung Apr 2025 #22
I'm far from a religious person, let alone Catholic... Montauk6 Apr 2025 #24

Ocelot II

(131,254 posts)
3. Francis appointed most of the current Cardinals.
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 10:21 AM
Apr 2025

And most Catholics aren't American. Doubt Trump will have much if any influence.

DenaliDemocrat

(1,812 posts)
5. No. Francis stacked the deck with 109 Cardinals
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 10:26 AM
Apr 2025

It will be a young and relatively liberal pope.

And on edit:

Francis held no great love for the Curia.

bucolic_frolic

(55,847 posts)
6. Using the overnight tweet Bully Pulpit to bully the Cardinals
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 10:27 AM
Apr 2025

This will be a maneuver to behold.

Ocelot II

(131,254 posts)
11. His "trying" will consist of some typically mean, deranged Xeets
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 10:41 AM
Apr 2025

about how Francis was too woke, and the cardinals will ignore him, effectively telling him to fuck right off. He has absolutely no power over or influence on the selection of a new Pope.

Aristus

(72,528 posts)
10. Does The Vatican even import anything? Other than from Italy?
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 10:41 AM
Apr 2025

It don't think it exports anything other than Catholic doctrine, which, except for their new-found interest in social justice, isn't saying much.

Irish_Dem

(82,386 posts)
13. That's my point. Trump's usual threats won't work.
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 10:44 AM
Apr 2025

The Vatican does export a small amount of religious mementos, but not of any significant financial value.

BlueTsunami2018

(5,079 posts)
14. He put tariffs on an island full of penguins.
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 10:45 AM
Apr 2025

He could very well just put meaningless tariffs on Vatican City for optics.

These people are dopes.

Ocelot II

(131,254 posts)
18. I think the Vatican might export various relics and religious tchotchkes.
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 10:53 AM
Apr 2025

Its economy is mainly supported by the sale of stamps, coins, medals, and tourist mementos and fees for admission to museums.The Vatican isn't part of the EU, but it has an open border with Italy and is part of the Schengen Area, and is exempt from EU duties and taxes. If Trump were to place a stiff tariff on religious effigies all Hell would break loose...

Wounded Bear

(64,655 posts)
12. I don't think US Cardinals have much influence in Rome...
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 10:41 AM
Apr 2025

That ship sailed a while ago.

I'm sure trump will opine on the selection, he seems to think that we want to hear his opinion on everything and can't help himself. But I don't see that a Lies Social tweet will affect anything.

Totally Tunsie

(12,032 posts)
20. Already screwed himself..
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 10:59 AM
Apr 2025

The "thoughts and prayers" of TSF's Easter message will preclude his influence.

obamanut2012

(29,516 posts)
21. He doesn't have that kind of influence, at all.
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 11:05 AM
Apr 2025

The Cardinals are probably already sequestered, too.

Ping Tung

(4,370 posts)
22. Is Donnie looking for a part time job in Rome? Will he build a casino and install an inside golf iv;in n the Vatican?
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 11:13 AM
Apr 2025

Montauk6

(9,340 posts)
24. I'm far from a religious person, let alone Catholic...
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 03:26 PM
Apr 2025

but GOD-DAMN, I'm praying hard for a "DEI pick" just to piss off the MAGAts, Teabaggers, Alt-Righties, and Freepers (remember them?).

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