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Peacetrain

(24,291 posts)
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 11:20 AM Apr 2025

I hope VP Vance is taking copious notes and getting his cabinet together...because

this current President is most definitely in a downward spiral.. His 2 and 3 AM tweets, showing he is not sleeping at night.. his childish choice of words and claims of people being "mean" to the United States.. to taking advantage of us etc. etc.. His diminishing vocabulary. Pulling things out of thin air and proclaiming them laws. Just all a few of the signs of his impairment worsening..

If you have ever taken care of a family member or friend or worked in the field with people who have some type of dementia will see the signs..They can be fine at one pm and then after 5 or so the sundowning starts.. and it can be frightening how out of control it can get.

We thought he was having issues in his first administration and he was.. but it has gotten so much worse..

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I hope VP Vance is taking copious notes and getting his cabinet together...because (Original Post) Peacetrain Apr 2025 OP
Maybe not all of his corporate pals shorted the market? gab13by13 Apr 2025 #1
Vance is good a whinging, but not as good as Krasnov (R-Felon) BoRaGard Apr 2025 #2
I'd tend to agree but... NEOH Apr 2025 #3
Cockroach Don RockCreek Apr 2025 #6
Where is the Joe-Biden-is-too-old GQP Chorus today? bucolic_frolic Apr 2025 #4
That Chorus is on FB waiting for a chance to hijack maxsolomon Apr 2025 #15
Vance strikes me as playing Thomas Cromwell to TSF's Henry VIII. And allegorical oracle Apr 2025 #35
2 years plus one day exboyfil Apr 2025 #5
Vance is Thiel's golden boy. Vance is a lot of vile things, but he's also smart. Hekate Apr 2025 #20
He's in the 'Adolf Hitler moving phantom armies around a map' phase. Aristus Apr 2025 #7
I haven't checked recently for a "Hitler finds out..." video from "Downfall," but there... NNadir Apr 2025 #11
As a convicted felon Shitler is not allowed to own a gun, but when did laws ever stop this mofo? OMGWTF Apr 2025 #14
Death is the only way Vance becomes president Fiendish Thingy Apr 2025 #8
Weekend at Bernie's is not possible... lame54 Apr 2025 #10
Exactly Fiendish Thingy Apr 2025 #19
They would need a forklift The Madcap Apr 2025 #23
That was such a great movie and you do have a point as it would be obvious vapor2 Apr 2025 #32
I"m sorry but I've heard this for almost 10 years sunnybrook Apr 2025 #9
The Fascist Grifter hasn't changed, but the circumstances have. Martin Eden Apr 2025 #17
I agree with this with a caveat Nasruddin Apr 2025 #18
"Trump is the MRSA of bad leaders" DET Apr 2025 #37
Sorry to have to agree with you. (nt) Paladin Apr 2025 #22
Vance don't need no notes. If he fills that position he'll have his bosses do his thinking. erronis Apr 2025 #12
Come on cholesterol!! Do your thing and rid us of this monster. OMGWTF Apr 2025 #13
He is the prime example of what the modern medicine can keep alive. LiberalArkie Apr 2025 #30
In other words... Trump is the same he's been since 2017. WarGamer Apr 2025 #16
Yep Diamond_Dog Apr 2025 #29
Not to discount what you are saying.. Escape Apr 2025 #21
I suspect JD has been planning for it ever since the day he accepted the nomination. (n/t) thesquanderer Apr 2025 #24
Denial Iamscrewed Apr 2025 #25
That's a good news, bad news thing. patphil Apr 2025 #26
But this is a cult of personality and he does not have one... So try as he might... Ol Janx Spirit Apr 2025 #31
Yes, Trumps mental instabiliity has gotten worse as the months pass, but Repugs r. too chicken to impeach him. riversedge Apr 2025 #27
Please identify anything in what you cited that wasn't both true, and said, Ms. Toad Apr 2025 #28
In plain English...... SergeStorms Apr 2025 #33
project 2025 already has the cabinet set up. vance will only be a place holder for their BS. nt Javaman Apr 2025 #34
Trump isn't going anywhere Mz Pip Apr 2025 #36
His tertiary syphillis has caused such a brain soup, I remain gobsmacked he is stil on this mortal coil. Pacifist Patriot Apr 2025 #38
Like Ronald Reagan? progressoid Apr 2025 #39

BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)
2. Vance is good a whinging, but not as good as Krasnov (R-Felon)
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 11:23 AM
Apr 2025

One thing we know is that the GOP likes whingers, like Krasnov. So Shady will need to downgrade his game if Krasnov kraps out.

bucolic_frolic

(55,847 posts)
4. Where is the Joe-Biden-is-too-old GQP Chorus today?
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 11:30 AM
Apr 2025

Plus, Vance now has proven his creds ... he has the magic touch.

allegorical oracle

(6,594 posts)
35. Vance strikes me as playing Thomas Cromwell to TSF's Henry VIII. And
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 02:38 PM
Apr 2025

Henry had Cromwell beheaded.

exboyfil

(18,373 posts)
5. 2 years plus one day
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 11:38 AM
Apr 2025

That is Vance's goal I think. Part of me hopes he is just craven and not a whack a doodle.

Aristus

(72,528 posts)
7. He's in the 'Adolf Hitler moving phantom armies around a map' phase.
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 11:40 AM
Apr 2025

Hope he shoots himself soon...

NNadir

(38,553 posts)
11. I haven't checked recently for a "Hitler finds out..." video from "Downfall," but there...
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 12:32 PM
Apr 2025

...should be some good ones about the senile orange bastard coming out soon.

OMGWTF

(5,221 posts)
14. As a convicted felon Shitler is not allowed to own a gun, but when did laws ever stop this mofo?
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 12:40 PM
Apr 2025

Fiendish Thingy

(24,120 posts)
8. Death is the only way Vance becomes president
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 12:00 PM
Apr 2025

Republicans in congress don’t have the guts to impeach him, and The loyalists in the WH will do everything short of Weekend At Bernie’s to keep Trump in power.

sunnybrook

(1,284 posts)
9. I"m sorry but I've heard this for almost 10 years
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 12:23 PM
Apr 2025

He's increasingly more unhinged. He's doing despicable, outrageous things. People will tire of him... he has to go... or his 2 or 3 AM tweets indicate he is knocking on death's door. This could be 2017... or any other of the last 8 or 9 years. His middle of the night rants are not NEW. He has always done this.

I would love to believe he will be our of our lives soon. But that doesn't make it true.

Martin Eden

(15,886 posts)
17. The Fascist Grifter hasn't changed, but the circumstances have.
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 12:48 PM
Apr 2025

Aside from stroke or death, The Felon will remain in office -- UNLESS House and Senate Republicans turn against him in sufficient numbers to remove this cancerous tumor by impeachment.

Nasruddin

(1,303 posts)
18. I agree with this with a caveat
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 12:51 PM
Apr 2025

Trump is the MRSA of bad leaders, but Vance is his ace in the hole.

Vance will not be accepted as president. We will head to some kind of civil war as every other demon in Pandora's Box comes out and wants their shot at president.

He is anti-charismatic, belongs to the wrong faction, and completely unable to do the job. But undoubtedly thinks he's the smartest guy in the room and has no problem making that clear.

I think the other side(s) knows this, and knows he was a bad choice for stand-in.

They will keep Trump running with LLMs and animatronics if they have to.

erronis

(24,553 posts)
12. Vance don't need no notes. If he fills that position he'll have his bosses do his thinking.
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 12:36 PM
Apr 2025

thiel/etc.
putin

Escape

(519 posts)
21. Not to discount what you are saying..
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 01:06 PM
Apr 2025

but evaluating or diagnosing Donald Trump by any typical or practical standards is not going to work.

Trump has been seriously mentally ill for years...decades. He has always been irrational, self-centered, angry, ugly, cruel and corrupt. He has offered hundreds of middle of the night illogical rants with asinine logic and preposterous content.

And yet, almost daily on DU I see sane rational posts or videos predicting (hoping) that Trump is finally spiraling down.

If Trump showed up naked at the Pope's funeral, riding a pony, carrying a machine gun and singing opera, it would be perfectly within his character, nothing out of the ordinary and cheered and praised by Fox News and the MAGA minions..

Iamscrewed

(486 posts)
25. Denial
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 01:36 PM
Apr 2025

The 25th amendment should have been used in tRump's first administration. Now we need to use the same removal ideology for the entire cabinet.

patphil

(9,230 posts)
26. That's a good news, bad news thing.
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 01:40 PM
Apr 2025

The good news would be Trump died. The bad news would be JD Vance is president.
In some respects, Vance is worse than Trump. He's healthier, smarter, but also just as mean, callous, and loveless as Trump. He may replace some of the more egregious Trump appointees, but he'd replace them with people who are smart enough, and talented enough to do even more damage.
I don't see the train to fascism getting derailed, or even slowing down with Vance.

Ol Janx Spirit

(1,078 posts)
31. But this is a cult of personality and he does not have one... So try as he might...
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 02:04 PM
Apr 2025

...and even with the backing of the billionaire bros, I do not think he would have any hope of keeping the factions together like F-47 does. The coalitions would quickly splinter and fall apart through infighting and disagreement. Elon and Con Jr. would quickly rush in to try to grab the mantle, but neither of them have what it takes either. Shady will nonetheless find himself washed out of the boat by the tsunami of insanity.

But that first domino has to fall before any of that happens.

riversedge

(81,565 posts)
27. Yes, Trumps mental instabiliity has gotten worse as the months pass, but Repugs r. too chicken to impeach him.
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 01:41 PM
Apr 2025

Ms. Toad

(38,824 posts)
28. Please identify anything in what you cited that wasn't both true, and said,
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 02:01 PM
Apr 2025

Repeatedly for the last 5-10 years.

SergeStorms

(20,822 posts)
33. In plain English......
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 02:11 PM
Apr 2025

he's crazier than a shithouse rat. 🤪 The thought of the ersatz hillbilly, J. D. Vance, being president does absolutely nothing to quell my fears that democracy is dead in the U.S.

Javaman

(65,981 posts)
34. project 2025 already has the cabinet set up. vance will only be a place holder for their BS. nt
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 02:17 PM
Apr 2025

Mz Pip

(28,511 posts)
36. Trump isn't going anywhere
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 02:45 PM
Apr 2025

He’s been saying crazy stuff for years and still his minions cheer.

Pacifist Patriot

(25,216 posts)
38. His tertiary syphillis has caused such a brain soup, I remain gobsmacked he is stil on this mortal coil.
Mon Apr 21, 2025, 03:06 PM
Apr 2025

And I've thought that for at least a decade!

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