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Javaman

(65,979 posts)
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 01:56 PM Apr 2025

It took almost 100 years but it appears that the "Business Plot" finally succeeded.

much to our chagrin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot

The Business Plot, also called the Wall Street Putsch[1] and the White House Putsch, was a political conspiracy in 1933, in the United States, to overthrow the government of President Franklin D. Roosevelt and install Smedley Butler as dictator.[2][3] Butler, a retired Marine Corps major general, testified under oath that wealthy businessmen were plotting to create a fascist veterans' organization with him as its leader and use it in a coup d'état to overthrow Roosevelt. In 1934, Butler testified under oath before the United States House of Representatives Special Committee on Un-American Activities (the "McCormack–Dickstein Committee&quot on these revelations.[4] Although no one was prosecuted, the congressional committee final report said, "there is no question that these attempts were discussed, were planned, and might have been placed in execution when and if the financial backers deemed it expedient."

Early in the committee's gathering of testimony most major news media dismissed the plot, with a New York Times editorial characterizing it as a "gigantic hoax".[5] When the committee's final report was released, the Times said the committee "purported to report that a two-month investigation had convinced it that General Butler's story of a Fascist march on Washington was alarmingly true" and "... also alleged that definite proof had been found that the much publicized Fascist march on Washington, which was to have been led by Major Gen. Smedley D. Butler, retired, according to testimony at a hearing, was actually contemplated".[6] The individuals involved all denied the existence of a plot.

While historians have questioned whether a coup was actually close to execution, most agree that some sort of "wild scheme" was contemplated and discussed.[7][8][9][10]

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GreenWave

(12,800 posts)
1. Then why are there no massive pro-trump manifestations?
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 01:58 PM
Apr 2025

THEY are in fear. Trump is stumbling.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
3. One big difference, trump won two elections, including popular vote in last election. Hope we begin turning that around.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 02:08 PM
Apr 2025

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
4. Timely observation. I never even heard of General Smedley Butler until I worked with a vet's group...
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 02:14 PM
Apr 2025

…during the run-up to the Iraq invasion. The man who had formed the local chapter invited me to join — anyway, Lane was a big fan of General Butler.

So much of our history is circling back on us…

UpInArms

(55,373 posts)
7. War Is a Racket
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 02:42 PM
Apr 2025

War Is a Racket is a speech and a 1935 short book by Smedley D. Butler, a retired United States Marine Corps major general and two-time Medal of Honor recipient.[2][3] Based on his career military experience, Butler discusses how business interests commercially benefit from warfare. He had been appointed commanding officer of the Gendarmerie during the 1915–1934 United States occupation of Haiti.

After Butler retired from the US Marine Corps in October 1931, he made a nationwide tour in the early 1930s giving his speech "War Is a Racket". The speech was so well received that he wrote a longer version as a short book published in 1935. His work was condensed in Reader's Digest as a book supplement, which helped popularize his message. In an introduction to the Reader's Digest version, Lowell Thomas, who wrote Butler's oral autobiography, praised Butler's "moral as well as physical courage".[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket

Smedley Butler has been one of my heroes for a very long time

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
8. I own the graphic version because of Lane -- he made sure we had a selection of books to sell...
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 02:52 PM
Apr 2025

…. and flyers to give away whenever we set up our table, and that was one of them.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
5. The American Liberty League. Gen. Butler exposed theml
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 02:25 PM
Apr 2025

Some very prominent industrialists and pols...Prescott Bush, Alfred Sloan, a DuPont and others.

The movement HAS NOT succeeded as trump is fucking up bigly.

Frasier Balzov

(5,106 posts)
6. General Butler seems to have shooed away a threat.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 02:39 PM
Apr 2025

He shooed it away by speaking about certain nefarious things he believed certain people were plotting.

This happened at a time in our history when shining a light in a dark corner could make a threat scurry away.

Now when a light is shone in a dark corner, doesn't the demon who is revealed to be sitting there just smile back at us?

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