Andrew Shulz reveals real reason "bros" vote Republican

[JI7]

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I know many want to believe those that vote Republican are hurting and suffering and see them as victims forced to do it becsuse of Oprah and Beyonce but I have seen no evidence of this.

Schulz whose show Buttigieg was on recently said he liked what Clinton was doing with Monica in the oval office and now it's Republicans who are doing those things. So that's his reason. Buttigieg did a good job but Schulz kept making sexist jokes and imagine how a woman is supposed to react in such an environment. Yet these guys are so offended that liberals think they are bigots.

I think getting rid of Al Franken, Andrew Cuomo and some others did hurt us with some male voters. And the me too movement in general. So it just goes back to sexism, misogyny, male privilege. (I think a lot of the accusations against Franken were a hit job but they were clearly using the me too movement at the time to get us to force him out).

It's one thing to not vote for a certain democrat but look at what they are voting for.

This really sucks but I really think Andrew Cuomo would have beaten Trump. There are enough people that would prefer a man even with the accusations against them that Cuomo had over an intelligent decent woman that it would have made a difference in outcome.

[multigraincracker]

1. They think of him and themselves as tuff guys.

They are not.

[Scrivener7]

4. DUer nuxvomica had the best explanation I've ever read. She says it's the "broken hero cycle."

I bookmarked it:

We are supposed to transition from the innocence of youth through rites of passage to the awareness of corruption in the world and the commitment of our newfound adult powers to protecting the innocent from that corruption so the cycle can begin anew. If we pass the awareness stage without answering the call to heroism, either because we fear sacrifice or have no confidence in our powers, this broken instinct must be mitigated by fantasies in which we are pantomime heroes easily fighting the made-up corruptions invented by abusive parental figures who only acquire power by keeping their followers in a permanent twilight of childhood. This broken cycle has been the primary cause of human misery since the dawn of humankind, even though myth and literature, from Gilgamesh to Skywalker, keeps telling us how the whole thing is supposed to work.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=17679568

Though the hero cycle is a universal archetype, I think men are more called to wish to be heroes. But these are coddled people who have always had unearned advantages so they see the slightest adversity as the incarnation of evil. These days, as a very few of their unearned advantages are removed by women and people of color, women and people of color become the incarnation of evil in their minds.

They are mediocre. And due to the ease of their lives, they have never been called on to do anything that is not mediocre, so they just don't know the difference. So all that is left is to put the boot to the necks of women and people of color.

[FalloutShelter]

2. The Mee Too movement was a trap

That we fell into. I believe our morality was harnessed against us , an internet mob was created, and we took the bait hook line and sinker.
The Me Too movement is bullshit! They have NEVER gone after anyone who wasn’t a Democrat, African American, Jewish, or Gay. Were some targets worthy of our ire? Yes… But others were collateral damage.

Did Me Too EVER go after Trump, or Gaetz, or any of the Pervert Rethugs?

The answer is an obvious NO.

JMHO

[dalton99a]

3. +1. Purification is for Democrats only

Democrats have set up a stupid system for themselves where ELECTED Democrats accused of jaywalking are forced to resign, while Republicans get away with murder

[FalloutShelter]

5. Clearly.

Jeebus s Rice… look at our current Administration.
It’s Perverts R’ Us.

[FalloutShelter]

6. BYW... with a massive assist from the MSM.

When there is a drop of Democrat blood in the pool the sharks are voracious.

Right now there is so much GOP blood in the pool, the bottom can’t be seen and …. where are the sharks? Where is the internet mob?

[Scrivener7]

7. I could not disagree more. Me Too was a paradigm shift. Women are routinely subject

to horrifying sexual abuse and our culture makes the costs for speaking about that abuse simply too high. So most women stay silent about it.

Me Too was a paradigm shift, and it is ongoing and not over. It told, and tells, women, "You are not alone, you are not at fault and you can speak about what was done to you."

Pendulums shift. This pendulum has shifted back away from the height of the Me Too movement. But the movement set the pendulum moving, it is something we are talking about, it is something we are thinking about, and because of the movement, that now can't be stopped.

[FalloutShelter]

8. If Me Too was authentic,

They would have gone after Trump until he was gone.
They did not. They do not.
I have been a feminist since 1967.
JMHO.

[Scrivener7]

10. I'm not doubting you're a feminist. I just completely disagree.

Many predators who had never faced consequences were taken down. And women who had held their abuse secret finally had the solidarity to unburden themselves, many for the first time.

I certainly wouldn't call those women inauthentic who spoke out loud about some of their worst life experiences.

You are correct that it did not solve this problem that has existed since the beginning of time. And no, it didn't take down trump.

But I think calling it ineffective or inauthentic is way off base.

[Quiet Em]

18. E Jean Carroll did and was successful

But there are still people who don't believe her or downplay what the con did to her.

[JustAnotherGen]

9. I wonder

If that's why based on ads alone - Cuomo seems to be doing well in NYC?

[Scrivener7]

12. Speaking for myself, I don't know if the rest of the

country had the same experience of Covid as NY.

We were ground zero. It hit us hardest in those early months when we had no treatments and no knowledge about it. We didn't even know yet about proning. In my neighborhood, the local mall parking lot was turned into a tent hospital, which was always full, and the local skating rink was made an overflow morgue. All we could do in those early days was watch friends and loved ones die.

For all his faults - which are gross and multiple, and some of them affected me directly - he was a lifeline during those days. I think many New Yorkers can forgive a lot because of that.

[travelingthrulife]

13. I agree with this. He did a good job during covid.

[JustAnotherGen]

17. I'm in NJ

Worked in Secaucus at the time of Covid.

Thank heavens we had Murphy and Cuomo for Governors in 2020.

[Quiet Em]

19. Cuomo was excellent during Covid.

There are other reasons I would not support him but his handling of Covid was excellent.

[mr715]

20. My 2nd day of classes at NYU was 9/11

The patriotic vomitus that followed certainly swept me up and made me (a) more willing to buy the US is the good guy always and (b) accept Democratic candidates trust George W. Bush and authorize his foreign policy.

The benefit of retrospection allows me to realize it was the crisis, not the leader, that made me (temporarily) willing to forgive.

In re: Andrew Cuomo, he took the lead and wanted to be President. He also covered up a lot of stuff, wasted a lot of money, and was responsible for a lot of bad things in elder care facilities.

He ran the NY Democratic party like a Chicago boss. He was imperial. He constructed opposition to maintain his dominance.

So... not my first choice, despite his value as an aggressive and well-spoken leader. But NYC mayor isn't President, so I can see him winning and it being a good thing (certainly better than Eric Adams), but my opinion of Mr. Cuomo has soured, too, with time.


MR

[tulipsandroses]

11. No surprise here. Racism, Sexism, Hatred, Greed, Immorality - driving factors for trump voters

In regards to the " Bros" - it is really simple - Racism, Sexism, Hatred, Greed, Immorality wrapped up in a big ball of mostly white male privilege. (It exists in other cultures/ethnicities)
People can choose to compromise their values. I won't. These people are not interested in what is good for the country, or what is good for their neighbors and fellow countrymen.
I am sick and tired of Democrats thinking they need to chase these proverbial white whales. There are plenty on non voters that need to be activated. Fuck these bros and all MAGA minded assholes.

[Sympthsical]

14. I'm not sure I'd use Andrew Shulz as a yardstick

I dip into the online comedy/podcast bro culture now and then because I've always been interested in standup. If you look at who younger males gravitate towards, it's mostly your Bill Burr and your Shane Gillis. Shulz is the asshole kid of that cohort with Akaash Singh often acting like some sort of shitty enabling sidekick.

They have their popularity, but they're dregs. When you're such assholes that Shane Gillis calls you out to your face, you've reached a special place.

I think I'd measure them on a maturity scale. At the top you'd have someone like Burr. And then Shulz is like the 14 year old who confuses being an asshole with being edgy and provocative.

But the whole culture is more subtle than it may seemingly present. For example, last year Matt Rife did a Netflix special. Now he's a bit bro-ey, but he has moments that elevate his work (his crowd work is excellent, he's very kind to people who are different, and he had a very moving segment in a special about his grandfather). Then his Netflix special came out and, I don't know if he thought he was getting cred or being edgy or what, but it was striated with a lot of misogyny. It was such a massive misfire. No one liked it.

He took a lot of heat for it. So I'd argue that space is more subtle than it seems at a passing glance and without being familiar with it. I think a lot of people on our side see bits and pieces and dismiss the whole culture as lost cause right-wing fest when it's really not that. It's more an expression of young male frustrations. And I will only note, but not belabor, that a lot of non-white young males participate in it. People like Akaash tap into non-white male frustrations often, and they're very effective at getting their finger on the pulse of the culture.

That said, Shulz is a baffling choice for Buttigieg. I'll have to watch it. I'm all for going to the other side and having debates and conversations, but even I'm sitting here thinking, "No, no. Shulz is useless. You can skip that one."

[uponit7771]

15. SHULZ IS 41 !!!!

[usonian]

16. For whatever reason, young men feel powerless, and project that onto others.

I am not a sociologist, nor psychologist, but I do remember growing up when we still had heroes and archetypes to emulate, whether that was a soldier, sportsman, scientist, musician, actor, firefighter, or whatever. There were no social media, only newspapers, magazines and brief broadcast news segments.

The Vietnam war brought forth the anti-hero and general disillusionment with society.

This essay explores the exploitation of the dark side of personality, the projection and blame side, because IMO, social media make good money off this addictive trait.

The Agonizing Work of Art That Helps Explain Trump’s America
https://whowhatwhy.org/culture/the-agonizing-work-of-art-that-helps-explain-trumps-america/

Does this sound familiar?

The real question, however, is not how America lost its way. We know the mechanics of it. It lost its way in large measure because Donald Trump, a Pied Piper of malice, led it astray, though one can’t lay all of that or even most of it on Trump. The American people, nearly half of those who voted, in their infinite wisdom empowered Trump to do so. They were looking for a Trump, yearning for a Trump, to do so.

They wanted a Trump to destroy the nation. They hoped he would destroy the nation both by sowing chaos and discord and by supervising a demolition of our institutions and values. So the real question we should be asking is why so many of our fellow Americans desired this, and what deep proclivities Trump drew upon to prompt the nation, at least a good part of it, to self-immolate. What does Trump give them?

Social media are in effect creating a culture of resentment, projection of weakness and failure onto others and driving it for profit with unfiltered echo chambers.

On the opposite side of this are the new “instant billionaires”, the nouveau riche of the social media addiction bonanza. These sites are addictive, and the pushers profit greatly, with no regard for the consequences in broken lives

Theirs is a culture of “supremacy” based not so much on brains (as they claim) as opportunism, and of course, exploitation.

Examples:

'Reboot' Revealed: Elon Musk's CEO-Dictator Playbook

https://www.thenerdreich.com/reboot-elon-musk-ceo-dictator-doge/


Silicon Valley Whistleblowers Warn Elon Musk 'Hijacking' Republicans to Control Entire US Government

https://bylinetimes.com/2025/02/07/silicon-valley-whistleblowers-warn-elon-musk-hijacking-republicans-to-control-entire-us-government/

PDF of their letter. 630K

https://america2.news/content/files/2025/02/Musk-NRx-Memo-February-5-2025.pdf