11 people killed, more than 20 hurt after SUV rams into Vancouver street festival

[malaise]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/vehicle-hits-crowd-filipino-festival-lapu-lapu-day-block-party-1.7519778

Eleven people have been killed and multiple others injured after the driver of a black SUV slammed into a crowd Saturday evening at a street festival in Vancouver celebrating the contributions of the Filipino Canadian community, police say.

It happened shortly after 8 p.m. PT, as the Lapu Lapu Day Block Party was winding down, after drawing up to 100,000 people through the day.

The vehicle that struck festival-goers approached the festival area from the west on East 43rd Avenue. It entered a small crowd, an enclosed area, and drove through the crowd. There were hundreds of festival-goers still on the street and multiple people were struck by the vehicle," Steve Rai, interim Vancouver police chief, told reporters on Sunday.


The person we have in custody does have a significant history of interactions with police and health-care professionals related to mental health," he told a briefing on Sunday.


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[SheltieLover]

1. Troubled young man?

Code for white magat!

[malaise]

2. Rules do not apply

Hmmmm.

[SheltieLover]

3. Right!

[Elessar Zappa]

5. Not too many MAGAts in Canada.

[AZJonnie]

7. There are PLENTY enough for any given person to turn out to be one of them

Maybe they don't affiliate specifically with MAGA, but they're still the exact same type of folks.

[barbtries]

17. more than there should be,

in any democratic country.
They're about to have an election and for Canada, we want the RED side to win.

[SheltieLover]

21. Oh, Canada has them for sure!

Some of our Canadian members have posted about their version of magats.

Also, unless police have released informaiton on the perp, who says the perp was from Canada?

[AZJonnie]

6. Almost certainly so, otherwise they'd be 'terrorists' or 'militants' or 'gang members'

Nomenclature we've seen play out, ad nauseum.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

8. No. Canada is not the USA. We do things differently here. Prejudging is bigotry and you're already proven wrong

Known to police and health care pros for mental illness.

Canada is not perfect, just better.

[AZJonnie]

11. As far as I know, neither of us know his politics

Notice though that I did not make any sort of positive claim in that regard, but you ARE making one. What is the proof this guy is not a xenophobic wingnut? And let me also say that in no way, shape or form, are the statuses of 'extreme wingnuts' and 'Known to police and health care pros for mental illness' mutually exclusive, so AFAIK, I'm not 'proven wrong' by that observation. If you have more to share about what you know about this guy that would exclude this man from the 'wingnut' category, please feel free to share. I'm not there in CA, and I assume you are, and are probably getting more details than I am

[Bernardo de La Paz]

12. Mental illness trumps politics and don't give us any shit about maga being mentally ill.

Yes, you did make a positive claim, bassackwards backing into it to try to maintain "plausible deniability".

A poster wrote:

Code for white magat!

You wrote:

Almost certainly so

We like to jab at maga calling them mentally ill but that is not a realistic or useful explanation of anything maga.

[AZJonnie]

18. You're one of my favorite posters here so I'm not going to argue further.

We'll see

[Bernardo de La Paz]

19. Thank you, it is kind of you to say so. I have no animus, I just call 'em as I see 'em. Be of good cheer. . . nt

[MichMan]

33. "What is the proof this guy is not a xenophobic wingnut?"

And there is zero proof from you or otherwise that he is. Until there is more known, it is all mindless speculation.

[AZJonnie]

34. I expressed I agreement with Sheltie that its *likely*, under this set of circumstances, that it's a white dude.

Bernardo OTOH expressed that I am OUTRIGHT 'proven wrong'. His words. So I was inquiring as to what HIS proof was for claiming I'm 'proven wrong'. The observation that this happened at a specific, foreign-culture based event (as opposed to, say, Mardi Gras), along with the 'troubled individual' storyline, made me suspicious. I don't think unreasonably so, but nonetheless, I did not CLAIM that 'I knew', whereas Bernardo did claim to know. Hence my question. There are really just a couple of basic logical syllogisms in play here, that I would hope I would not have to explain, but it seems so

[Bernardo de La Paz]

35. I claimed to know what is in the OP and that other speculation as to "almost certainly" was factless. . . . nt

[AZJonnie]

36. Had you said 'you have no hard evidence' I would have immediately agreed with you, Bernardo

But 'proven wrong' means something different

[Bernardo de La Paz]

37. Perhaps I could have worded that better. I meant that the mental illness factor overrode any possible political factor.

Okay, I see better now how the conversation went.

[AZJonnie]

39. All good. And I should've mentioned I was thinking along the lines of if someone committed a violent crime

and then when the authorities asked why and the criminal told them 'man I hate all spics and beaners, I wanna to rid the world of them all!' they'd probably send 'em to the mental health folks for an assessment. I mean, I hope they would, really. So this is what I meant by both things could be true.

[SheltieLover]

22. Right!

[LauraInLA]

16. The *speculation* we've seen based on eyewitness accounts is not a white man. I guess we'll see.

[SheltieLover]

24. OK. I've not seen anything about the perp

[LauraInLA]

26. Some local stuff, which I didn't really want to share as I'd guess it's premature. I did find it interesting

that the description used by eyewitnesses was not a white guy, though.

[SheltieLover]

27. Interesting. Maybe they're busy looking for a non-English speaking immigrant to pin it on.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

31. No. Canada is not the USA. We do things differently. Not perfectly but better.

The guy is in custody. Read the thread.

You make a big mistake if you think Canadians behave like maga or make automatic assumptions generally. Of course a few do, but not most.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

29. But that didn't stop you from posting prejudgemental falsity. . . . nt

[chouchou]

4. I must keep telling myself. The person was mentally sick...was mentally sick...mentally sick,,

Another small side of me is thinking like a partial monster ...

[SheltieLover]

25. Right. Magats are mentally sick as well, part of a cult.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

28. No. Cult members, yes. "Mentally" is a cop-out attempt at explanation for maga. Emotionally satifying but factless. . nt

[Demovictory9]

9. They should have had those streets blocked..theyve used dump trucks in the past

Europe had a car attack a few months ago..didn't have the bollards deployed

All street festivals..black them

[Bernardo de La Paz]

10. Streets were blocked but someone started letting cars in. I think it might have been non-officials letting cars in

The event was over. The last musical act had left the stage. Vendors were packing up. But there were still crowds.

[Demovictory9]

15. Oh...

[Prairie Gates]

13. Uh, the United States had a car attack a few months ago

Fourteen people were killed in New Orleans on New Year's Eve, not counting the perp.

[Demovictory9]

14. Countries have started blockading street festivals..Canada had too

[sheshe2]

23. 11 people died and you are making a joke, LG?!

[malaise]

30. Not funny

Enjoy your stay

[mcar]

32. Horrible

[MichMan]

38. Suspect has been identified as Kai-Ji Adam Lo, 30

Reports say his brother was murdered last year.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/livestory/lapu-lapu-killings-suspect-charged-with-multiple-counts-of-second-degree-murder-in-vancouver-9.6737566