A different perspective about Trump and his psychotic desire to annex Canada (hear me out)

[AZLD4Candidate]

I believe Democrats should ignore this bluster.

First, it will NEVER happen. Secondly, if it does, Canada should state we accept on the condition that every province becomes a state. The state of Quebec. The state of Ontario. The state of British Columbia. Even Nunavut, NW Territories, and Yukon should become states immediately.

That would give us 13 more states, each one solidly behind gun control, the right to choose, universal health care, and all the things we as Democrats want and support.

That's 26 new senators at at least 45 representatives apportioned out to the new "states." Expect those to come from the lowest EV states first, all those with between 4-6 EVs will drop to 3 immediately. That means the GOP will lose 18 Reps immediately since 9 out of the 15 states will 4-6 EVs are Republican states.

When that happens, the Senate will have 26 new Senators. Assuming that Saskatchewan, Manitoba, and Alberta continue to be Republican and Quebec, and the Canadian territories go purple as they usually do in Canada, assuming 16 new Democratic senators would not be far-fetched. Taking the current make up of the Senate adding this, it would be 63 - 63.

The House would be different as there should be a huge increase in Democrats, so assuming 75% of the Canadian delegation being Democrats isn't farfetched. If they keep the 435 number, assuming re-apportionment trends, that means the Republicans will lose big time. We could literally see a House where the Democrat hold an unbreakable majority to an almost super majority. Democrats holding 60% of the 435 (meaning at least 260 seats) permanently would be possible.

Then there's the SCOTUS. We would need at least four more circuits.

Finally, the EV. If this happens, there would be no path to the WH for the Republicans. Even with TX and FL, most states with over 20 EVS (including PA and IL) are blue.

One last thing. . .this also doesn't take into consideration the mentality that the Canadians will blame the Republican Party for losing their country. Even the most conservative Canadian will vote against the Republicans en masse, just like black people voted FOR the Republican Party as a voting block until 1964 due to the thinking that the Republicans ended slavery.

With all this, I'd say "do it Donald. You don't see the political consequences internally.

Even if Canada becomes just one state, that's two more Democrats and at least 45 new Congress critters in the House taken mostly from red states.

Good luck with that.

IF all this happens, expect statehood to pass in PR, Virgin Islands, Guam, Marianas, and Samoa (and possibly DC). That's six more BLUE states.

[bucolic_frolic]

1. Statehood expansion would be tweaked to suit Trump

One state, or states based on population. Is Canada equal to 2 Californias?

Maybe there would be 4 states. The Pacific, The Plains, The Legacy Core, and The Maritimes.

Then you have to deport groups you don't like and exclude single women because.

I doubt it will happen, but it's not a zero probability.

[Blue Full Moon]

2. Exxon Mobil

https://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/13/exxon-mobil-could-tap-huge-arctic-assets-if-us-russian-relations-thaw.html

Again oil

[Fiendish Thingy]

3. Enough with the parlor games

All these hypotheticals about how many states/senators/judges adding Canada to the US ignore the real consequences of Annexation:

Annexing Canada would require the illegal invasion and occupation of a sovereign nation, resulting in the deaths of thousands of American soldiers as well as Canadians. The killing would not end until the last American soldier left Canadian soil.

That’s what Democrats and responsible journalists should be talking about- Why does Donald Trump want to go to war with the closest ally America has ever had, and how many soldiers is he willing to sacrifice to add a star to the flag.

We talk about Greenland and Panama that way, why not Canada?

Talk of annexation is not some hypothetical parlor game, it is talk of invasion, occupation, death and destruction.

After today’s election, I expect Carney to take decisive action to strengthen and create defence and trade relationships with Europe, Asia and the rest of the world. Now that the US cannot be depended upon for trade or defence agreements, I believe Canada should become a nuclear power, with enough warheads pointed south to deter Trump or any future US despot from invading.

Elbows Up, by any means necessary.

[LeftinOH]

4. Indeed - the entire narrative is beyond asinine, and needs to be called out as such

every time someone in the administration mentions it.

[AZLD4Candidate]

6. i was pointing out the absurdity to it. it would destroy the republicans. and it will NEVER happen

[Fiendish Thingy]

8. Part of the absurdity is the ignoring of the death and destruction annexation would cause

Your post, while well intentioned, was incomplete because it left out the very real life and death consequences of any attempt at annexation.

[AZLD4Candidate]

9. because i am not talking warfare. . .only the politics of it.

This entire idea of annexing anything is incomprehensibly stupid and toxic.

But. . .if it did happen, my post is the end result politically.

Sadly, Dickhead in the White House got it from Crimea and Putin.

[Fiendish Thingy]

10. To focus solely on imagined political outcomes to the exclusion of the human suffering it would involve...

…is the epitome of absurdity, IMO.

[AZLD4Candidate]

12. I respect your opinion. But you read too deep into what I wrote.

[Scrivener7]

5. Even just spitballing like this is profoundly disrespectful to our neighbor, friend and ally, a sovereign nation.

Please just stop.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

7. Thank you, Scrivener7. . . . . . .nt

[Fiendish Thingy]

11. Thank You- that is my feeling as well.

I am a dual citizen living in B.C.

[Disaffected]

13. Hear, hear.

Enough from Trump et al and, enough from DU.

[obamanut2012]

14. Thank you

[SidDithers]

15. Stop it...

Canadians have no fucking interest in becoming part of your dysfunctional nation.

Sid

[AZLD4Candidate]

16. another person who misunderstood what i wrote.