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IrishBubbaLiberal

(2,248 posts)
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 10:54 AM Apr 28

Imports Plunge At Los Angeles Ports, With More Shortages To Follow

Imports Plunge At Los Angeles Ports, With More Shortages To Follow

“Many major retailers have told us they’ve got about a six-to-eight-week supply of inventory in their systems now that will quickly dry up,” the port executive director said.

Imports Plunge At Los Angeles Ports, With More Shortages To Follow

“Many major retailers have told us they’ve got about a six-to-eight-week supply of inventory in their systems now that will quickly dry up,” the port executive director said.
#TrumpTariffs #TrumpTradeWar

Jon Cooper (@joncooper-us.bsky.social) 2025-04-28T12:07:06.517Z


https://crooksandliars.com/2025/04/imports-plunge-la-ports-more-shortages
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Imports Plunge At Los Angeles Ports, With More Shortages To Follow (Original Post) IrishBubbaLiberal Apr 28 OP
Same thing happening at Seattle... Wounded Bear Apr 28 #1
Looking at the port this morning, I see ONE Container Ship. maxsolomon Apr 28 #7
Truckers are being warned away from western ports due to high chances ofdeadhead uponit7771 Apr 28 #10
that means they'd get there and have no cargo to pick up? maxsolomon Apr 28 #14
Empty shelves at Wal-Mart by June might finally get MAGA's attention. Ocelot II Apr 28 #2
"HOW COULD JOE BIDEN DO THIS TO US??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?" durablend Apr 28 #3
On my neighborhood walk, talked to young white pool cleaner IrishBubbaLiberal Apr 28 #4
This Meowmee Apr 28 #18
My thoughts exactly.. No cheap chinese goods to run up your credit card on...nt mitch96 Apr 28 #16
Shortages are coming even if Trump cancels all tariffs today dalton99a Apr 28 #5
And moron seems to think that retailers can easily replace the missing import goods on their shelves SWBTATTReg Apr 28 #6
Yes, Chinese can trade w everyone else; US is going alone. China can endure more pain, too, if it has to. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 28 #12
The US isn't going to start manufacturing all that stuff. Ocelot II Apr 28 #19
Perhaps you have a point. But tons of economic activity occurs in Calif and other such states, despite the high SWBTATTReg Apr 29 #20
Shipping is being diverted to Canada, what tariffs did TFG impose on CA/MX uponit7771 Apr 28 #8
There are 25% tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminum. Zero for the moment on his NAFTA 2.0 products (CUSMA). Bernardo de La Paz Apr 28 #13
Humm Like during prohibition?...will goods be smuggled into the US from Canada and Mexico?? mitch96 Apr 28 #17
More shortages, more hoarding sakabatou Apr 28 #9
yep. I fear what happens when the shelves empty. I see an issue here... MissB Apr 28 #15
Trump needs to be thrown out on his ass now! Initech Apr 28 #11

maxsolomon

(36,731 posts)
14. that means they'd get there and have no cargo to pick up?
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 12:34 PM
Apr 28

I'm not conversant in shipping/trucking.

IrishBubbaLiberal

(2,248 posts)
4. On my neighborhood walk, talked to young white pool cleaner
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 11:17 AM
Apr 28

Seemed like a good hard worker.
White kid, maybe 30 yrs old, driving his work pickup,
Pool service, at a nice relatively newly built house.

Unusual because most pool service workers now days are minorities,
Mostly Hispanic

I stopped and chatted a bit with him.

Unfortunately he was a MAGA person,
But our chat remained friendly, not confrontation at all.

Before I walked away, I warned him Trump was going to screw him
financially Big Time, and that the working class would be hit the hardest
by Trump.

I said if I see you again in a couple months I will stop and chat again.
And told him Trump was lying to him

dalton99a

(88,939 posts)
5. Shortages are coming even if Trump cancels all tariffs today
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 11:21 AM
Apr 28

Because container ships can't go that fast


SWBTATTReg

(25,430 posts)
6. And moron seems to think that retailers can easily replace the missing import goods on their shelves
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 12:21 PM
Apr 28

when instead, so much comes out of China, and not much from the US inhouse. It takes time to regear factories in the US to make gadgets and whatnot, the economy doesn't turn on a dime. So I expect shortages for perhaps 6 months to 1 year minimum, then the food chains/manufacturers will retool/revamp/open new facilities to manufacture new goodies for the retail markets. Big issue is getting the raw materials though, how much of these are covered by the stupid 'sleepy don' tariffs?

Bernardo de La Paz

(56,586 posts)
12. Yes, Chinese can trade w everyone else; US is going alone. China can endure more pain, too, if it has to.
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 12:29 PM
Apr 28

TreasSec Bessent keeps flogging the line that "We take 5 times as much as the Chinese take from us, so we are in a 5 times better position", which ignores the point in this Reply title.

Bessent is not stupid, he just thinks the US public is all stupid. He is only partially right now, and will be less right as even maga get whacked in the face with the orange economic 2x4.

Ocelot II

(125,458 posts)
19. The US isn't going to start manufacturing all that stuff.
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 01:49 PM
Apr 28

Business can't make money after they've built the factories and started having to pay US wages. The reason China became a manufacturing powerhouse is because they have all that cheap labor.

SWBTATTReg

(25,430 posts)
20. Perhaps you have a point. But tons of economic activity occurs in Calif and other such states, despite the high
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 04:12 PM
Apr 29

wages needed (and associated higher cost of living in these areas), that is, people must be able to afford living in these areas if they're going to work in these states/areas.

But other things kick in too, the availability of raw materials, transportation modes available in areas, the availability of labor (not just cheap but in quantities they need), schooling, and the other vast amounts of things society as a whole requires, for their workers who come to work at these places.

And the thing about imports from China and other such places...they're a long way off, disruptions to supply lines can easily occur (the longer the route is to the US, the more possibility of disruptions, etc.).

And cheap labor isn't exactly the panacea that everyone thinks it is. Highly trained workers who make fewer mistakes and output more goods per hour can make or break a business. As a matter of fact, those businesses who offer more job benefits such as 401Ks and other perks to their workers find that their productivity is way up. In short, a happy worker is a good worker.

Bernardo de La Paz

(56,586 posts)
13. There are 25% tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminum. Zero for the moment on his NAFTA 2.0 products (CUSMA).
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 12:32 PM
Apr 28

10% on Canadian oil and electricity. But the stupid shit drove down oil prices so it is as if there are no tariffs on Canadian oil. But now oil is too cheap for it to be economic for US drillers to drill baby drill.

mitch96

(15,288 posts)
17. Humm Like during prohibition?...will goods be smuggled into the US from Canada and Mexico??
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 01:34 PM
Apr 28

The big crime syndicates will find a way to profit from this......

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MissB

(16,323 posts)
15. yep. I fear what happens when the shelves empty. I see an issue here...
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 01:08 PM
Apr 28

I think human behavior leans towards hoarding, especially in times of scarcity. Once the shelves empty, I won't be surprised to see grocery store shelves empty as well, as folks can't quite discern between availability of food and availability of other consumer goods. I think some of that fear may be justified - packaging relies on some imports whether it is parts for machines or just general packaging.

I've stocked up just to avoid the rush. Yes, I've stocked up on food. My weekly spend at the grocery in May (for example) could be avoided completely if necessary, but it's also set up to just buy fruit, veg and dairy. If those become unavailable, I have options.

I've also stocked up on some more random items, like filters for my furnace's air purifier and fridge filters. I suspect those are made in China and even if not, it is likely that some of the material is. Some of those are expensive enough that I'm okay with stocking up a couple of years of those. My furnace filter, for example, is over $100 each, but that saves me money by buying it myself as the HVAC company charges another 50%. The issue is that it comes in a box of 2, so I have to shell out $200 to get a filter. I'm sitting on 3 years worth now. They'll get used though, and they don't go bad. Worst case, I have less storage room. Best case, I ride out the price increase for a couple of years.

I've also stocked up on commonly used personal care products - like dh's razor blades, extra toothbrushes, our fav shampoo/conditioner. Those all have plastic in them, and I'm a bit wary of anything with packaging (which I admit - is a LOT of stuff) and just want to make sure I beefed up my supply of those.

Initech

(105,358 posts)
11. Trump needs to be thrown out on his ass now!
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 12:26 PM
Apr 28

And all who enable this monster need to be arrested and prosecuted. We need to make the Nuremburg trials look like a practice run.

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