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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums75-Year-Old Democrat Who Beat AOC for Key Role Resigns After 4 Months
Reminder that in December, Nancy Pelosi, from her hospital bed, whipped the vote for Gerry Connollywho'd recently been diagnosed with throat canceragainst Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.Hey Democratic leadership: You're doing it wrong!
https://www.jezebel.com/75-year-old-democrat-who-beat-aoc-for-key-role-resigns-after-4-months
BeyondGeography
(41,101 posts)Autumn
(48,962 posts)thought he would last In office. The treatment is brutal. Damn shame Nancy had to have him instead of someone who would last.
Response to Autumn (Reply #2)
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onenote
(46,142 posts)And I also know Gerry, who has been a force for his constituents, both in local government and Congress.
Autumn
(48,962 posts)Hekate
(100,133 posts)Best wishes to you and your wife for her continued recovery.
In our 28 years of marriage she has had cancer three times breast cancer twice and then esophageal. She is a fighter and still is active, traveling, scuba diving, and attending protests.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)JBTaurus83
(1,385 posts)to place AOC in the position.
getagrip_already
(17,802 posts)Being part of the squad, calling for dems to not vote, isnt a cause for advance.ent.
onenote
(46,142 posts)So that's probably not happening.
gab13by13
(32,321 posts)It's past time for Democratic leadership to drop the notion that they must elect moderates to head certain committees, and they must nominate moderates to run in certain districts.
How about picking the best candidate?
onenote
(46,142 posts)She's not going to be allowed to be ranking on oversight and retain her membership on energy and commerce.
IzzaNuDay
(1,295 posts)Though I feel some bit of sympathy for Rep. Connolly that he had this condition, the fact remains he knew this cancer is a hard one to fight, even if he were not leading the oversight committee. He could have been more effective not taking the role, allowing AOC to lead and he and/or others mentor her.
But its all about power and control. SMH.
Raven123
(7,797 posts)LymphocyteLover
(9,847 posts)Shipwack
(3,064 posts)LymphocyteLover
(9,847 posts)hearings of any note.
Alpeduez21
(2,053 posts)A fucking fascist regime. I guess for some people being in congress isnt considered enough. We need people who will fight for us not dreamers from the make a wish foundation
delisen
(7,366 posts)LymphocyteLover
(9,847 posts)Meowmee
(9,212 posts)yorkster
(3,832 posts)Could we have a little grace for someone who has been a powerful, intelligent fighter in the House. Some of his Virginia constituents have spoken highly of him here. I suspect Nancy thought he would be an effective choice, no doubt hoping his treatment would also be effective.
Celerity
(54,407 posts)Duncan Grant
(8,920 posts)Last wish or not, these responsibilities transcend individual desires. All this is hypothetical, of course, but its not how an opposition party should work.
IrishBubbaLiberal
(2,561 posts)Jezebell:
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Its entirely understandable that he hasnt exactly been energized to take on an existential political fight for the soul of the nation over the last few months. Whats not understandable is why he even ran for this position, and why top Democrats like Nancy Pelosi so determinedly went to bat for him. The Oversight Committee is charged with ensuring efficiency and accountability in the federal government. So, Democrats on the committee are naturally taking on an incredibly dire role right now. Trumps first term was nothing if not a hotbed for corruption, what with his lack of tax returns, or all the suspicious activities surrounding his businesses. In his second term so far, Trump and his entire family appear to be profiting massively off scam-y memecoins, while other members of his administration, including Vice President JD Vance, are partaking in their own suspicious activities.
Trotting out a justifiably fatigued 75-year-old man recovering from cancer to lead such a dogged fight was never a good idea. In the last three-and-a-half months, Connolly has routinely disappeared during key moments when Democrats needed visible leaders front and center, communicating to the American public and highlighting the stakes of everything thats happening. And its not as if Democrats didnt have other options with the demonstrated ability to do all of that: Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), whos far and away the partys brightest star right now, also ran for the role in December.
Skittles
(171,713 posts)pretty fucking insulting
Shipwack
(3,064 posts)It was his turn!
Skittles
(171,713 posts)AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Dan
(5,179 posts)Is going to be one lean mean fighting machine. A take no prisoners type of party with no tolerance for peace with the republicans.
LymphocyteLover
(9,847 posts)IrishBubbaLiberal
(2,561 posts)He obviously is a good man.
Been in Congress a long time.
A dependable Democratic Party member.
Thank you Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-Va.)
I hope you get well.
BUT I never understood how bizarrely Pelosi thought it was so
important to defeat AOC.
Pelosi has seen her crown age, its really rusty and crusty, tarnished now,
And for whatever reason Pelosi belief in the Old School DEMs
to the detriment of all Democrats.
I would LOVE to see more young DEM new faces.
Democrats in their 20s and 30s in office, in Congress
Instead of the elderly DEMs of 70s and 80+ years old.
Yet some of the Congress who are old,,
Like Independent Bernie have THE FIRE RAGING STILL.
JOHN LEWIS when elderly STILL HAD THE FIRE RAGING STILL.
Skittles
(171,713 posts)WTF
IrishBubbaLiberal
(2,561 posts)In 2001, 2002,
I believe my DU name back then was
ProtectFreedomImpeachBushNow
(Or maybe that was my 2nd DU name,,, cant remember anything
anymore in detail for sure)
Anyway
GOOD TO SEE YOU ARE STILL HERE
😎
From July 2003
https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x75626
Skittles
(171,713 posts)excellent that we are still here to FIGHT
Ms. Toad
(38,638 posts)I'm "only" 69, but I have two cancer diagnoses - breast cancer and sarcoma; the latter extremely aggressive and hard to treat. The first is from 9 years ago; the second from 4 years ago. None of those things render me incapable of doing my job. I was back on the job Monday after a partial mastectomy for the first - and worked through radiation therapy, and I was teaching from home via zoom 3 days after the final stage of limb-sparing surgery for the latter. Between the two, I broke my tib-fib (spiral fracture) and was back to work 7 days later. It would have been earlier, except that my University initially violated the ADA by refusing to allow me to return until I was able to work in the building 40 hours a week without accommodations.
Asserting that someone is incapable of doing a job based solely on the fact of their age, or the fact of their diagnosis is ageist and ableist claptrap and has no place on a progressive discussion board.
Was he the best for the job? I don't know. Was he impaired by either his age or cancer? I don't know.
But I find the suggestion offensive that we should have known better based solely on his age and cancer diagnosis.
Brenda
(2,054 posts)And Ageism in reverse. Ignoring young people got us here.
Ms. Toad
(38,638 posts)Or to justify giving her the job.
There are competent and experienced 35 year olds - and competent and experienced 75 year olds. Simply reciting an age and rejecting someone based on that age is ageist. As to age, the article recited the fact of his age, and no more (beyond that he was a young 75 year old) as a reason we should have known better. That is the very definition of ageist.
Oopsie Daisy
(6,670 posts)Cuthbert Allgood
(5,339 posts)Ms. Toad
(38,638 posts)And if so, I expect a link - since I was addressing an opinion piece which expressly used age and cancer diagnosis, without more, as reasons we should have known better.
If you can provide a link to someone saying that her age, without more, was why she was not selected, I will agree that that opinion is ageist.
ancianita
(43,307 posts)blue_jay
(263 posts)Don't get me wrong. I understand the frustration and impatience of youth and getting things moved forward (I was rooting for AOC too) but am not convinced that allowing the elder dem some dignity and reward that he put in the work and hours for to have the opportunity to achieve this, (before he either got better from illness or didn't) caused irreparable harm. Also think we can never truly know which the better choice would have been. Perhaps he did things the younger gen dem would not have known to do, perhaps we lost time. Honestly haven't been able to pay any attention to his committee so I may be way off base (so please forgive my ignorance). Just think perhaps they knew this would/ could happen and ultimately gave both people the opportunity to fill that position and not dishonor someone who has put in more of the hours. I hope I'm right. I know politics is a vicious dicey game and who knows who will replace him or if it will be fair. Perhaps whatever happens next will change my views in the future.
All that said, I am still against the suspicious and consistent agenda against the progressives and am looking forward to more and more like AOC gaining seniority and changing the dynamic of this party. I believe it can/ will happen sooner than we think.
MadameButterfly
(4,039 posts)reason was not age but resistance to a Progressive firebrand. She will not be able to stop AOC's rise in the end. She and the DNC will attempt to keep her from a presidential run, and don't want to give her the limelight to help her get there. So AOC did rallies with Bernie instead and got even more attention. I was glad she was free of the chairmanship so she could do that. Now it's time for her to run again.
The wisdom of running another woman with a double glass ceiling who looks like a child of the 60's for president--if indeed that's where she is headed-- is not mine to know right now. We just need to use all the talent we've got. And nothing the establishment tries to do will keep AOC down.
I want to add that I deeply respect Pelosi who I think is the greatest Speaker in history. I think AOC could follow in her footsteps.
Rob H.
(5,851 posts)Pelosi endorsed and recorded last-minute robocalls for an anti-abortion moderate under active FBI investigation in Cuellar's case to keep progressive Cisneros from winning, Cuellar went on to be indicted for bribery, unlawful foreign influence, and money laundering, so, yeah. Great choice.
EdmondDantes_
(1,797 posts)Literally the opposite happens because it's a system built on relationships.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)Gore1FL
(22,951 posts)I hope AOC slides into the position of the ranking Democrat on the House Oversight Committee.
lapucelle
(21,061 posts)Nobody "slides into" a leadership position. The Democratic members of the committee vote, the Steering Committee votes to recommend, and then the entire Democratic Caucus votes.
Besides, AOC is no longer on the Oversight Committee.
Gore1FL
(22,951 posts)Please forgive my use of vernacular.
It is weird that people cannot be re-assign committees. I didnt know that.
Celerity
(54,407 posts)in order to switch over from the Energy Committee.
Pelosi may well put paid to that notion, behind the scenes. If not Pelosi, then perhaps others will try and stop the manoeuvre, if AOC actually tries to do it, which I am not sure she even will.
comradebillyboy
(10,955 posts)It seems to me AOC has not done much to earn the support and trust of her fellow congressional Democrats.
lapucelle
(21,061 posts)They are not aware that AOC is no longer a member of the Oversight Committee.
They think that a member can "slide in" as a Ranking Member of a committee they no longer belong to.
They think that committee leaders are "selected" by nefarious power players rather than elected by the entire Democratic Caucus in a secret ballot.
They don't understand the concept of exclusive committees and waivers.
The don't even understand that AOC herself has long sought to be a member of the exclusive Energy and Commerce Committee and might not want to leave that role.
Nixie
(17,984 posts)Nancy Pelosi when it was a 131-84 vote against AOC that defeated her against Connelly. So 64% voted against her, but thats too much reality to acknowledge so they just blame Nancy.
lapucelle
(21,061 posts)And all the insta-experts are clueless as to how these things actually work according to House rules.
A lot of them didn't even know that AOC is no longer a member of the Oversight Committee.
And then there are others who think AOC can simply be reassigned with some kind of magical waiver. They don't realize that Democrats have exactly 21 seats on the Oversight Committee. A Democrat would have to leave the committee for AOC to be reassigned.
Nixie
(17,984 posts)TY
NoRethugFriends
(3,752 posts)Celerity
(54,407 posts)comradebillyboy
(10,955 posts)It adds much needed context.
lapucelle
(21,061 posts)onenote
(46,142 posts)She could have stayed on Oversight but she has wanted to be on energy and commerce since she was elected to Congress
lapucelle
(21,061 posts)LOL
Gore1FL
(22,951 posts)riversedge
(80,810 posts)some friends that this has happened to. It is so horrible-not just for the person with cancer but for their families.
Chasstev365
(7,798 posts)I sincerely mean this: You did so many great things for us, but shutting out AOC as the ranking member for Gerry Connolly with his age and cancer was not one of them. She's not that far left.
AOC's "radical" ideas were the mainstream views of the Democratic Party of FDR, JFK, LBJ, and RFK. She's also a fighter. Please give her a chance.
question everything
(52,134 posts)into the position.
lapucelle
(21,061 posts)Arazi
(8,887 posts)If a current Dem fighter appears to be tired and out of fire
Prairie Gates
(8,156 posts)So live up to your own advice and get out of the new one if you can't lend your hand.
Pro-AOC
Pro-Hogg
Democrat!
tritsofme
(19,900 posts)AOC didnt do that.
Arazi
(8,887 posts)tritsofme
(19,900 posts)No one is at fault for failing to convince her colleagues but herself.
Pelosi is free to endorse who she chooses, another Pelosi endorsee lost his race on the same day, she doesnt have some sorcerous power over the caucus. Its not a scandal for this woman to speak her mind.
AOC just didnt make her case in that race.
Arazi
(8,887 posts)But lets not kid ourselves that Nancys prodigious power on every level (contacts, fundraising and $$ for members) means nothing.
tritsofme
(19,900 posts)A putative rising star in the party would seem to have much to learn from such a person.
Arazi
(8,887 posts)And AOC appears to have certainly moderated and learned from Pelosi and others.
tritsofme
(19,900 posts)She ultimately got more support than I expected, but she owns her own loss.
Arazi
(8,887 posts)You (again) appear to be impugning her, implying that she somehow had sour grapes about this.
Fairly sure shes not a newbie anymore and understands the political games afoot. Nobodys fooled on what happened here imo
tritsofme
(19,900 posts)Attacking Democrats and whining about the outcome, are a whole other story.
Renew Deal
(85,151 posts)tritsofme
(19,900 posts)Sky Jewels
(9,148 posts)who prefer centrists who won't make waves and upset the old guard Dems who are more passionate about fighting progressives than they are about fighting fascists.
tritsofme
(19,900 posts)What a disgusting attack on good Democrats.
betsuni
(29,078 posts)lapucelle
(21,061 posts)SunImp
(2,705 posts)Sorry, I didn't want what I said to be misinterpreted to make it seem like I was calling everyone who supported Rep Connolly "cancer" just the ones in these threads using every little opportunity to trash AOC. I admit I have been having a bad few days & that cancer comment was uncalled for & a poor word choice.
W_HAMILTON
(10,333 posts)...(with some of those likes coming from Russian and Republican trolls looking to drive wedges, *cough cough*), it doesn't go over well with the Democrats whose votes you need to be voted into these leadership positions everyone thinks they are ready for.
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)to bash Pelosi, Schumer, and any Democrat who doesn't doesn't fit "the mold", while opening the door to celebrate David Hogg whose main experience is surviving a mass shooting, advocating "defund the police, and elimination of ICE".
I am done with DU for a while, and no I won't let the door hit my ass on the way out.
The more things change, the more they stay the same, and we will keep reliving 2000, 2016, and 2024, where it is either my way or I will take my marbles and go home.
Enjoy, and have a good day.
betsuni
(29,078 posts)themaguffin
(5,221 posts)recognizes the moment and elevates someone who is ready for the moment. We need war time leaders. We are not in business as usual times.
Oopsie Daisy
(6,670 posts)It's unclear to me why this should be seen as (yet another) opportunity to shit on Democrats and the Democratic party.
betsuni
(29,078 posts)and always, always taking every opportunity no matter how baseless to shit on Democrats and the party. Solidarity. For the Yelling Revolution of Stupidity and No Progress Just Punishing Democrats or whatever. I still haven't figured out
is the reason for preventing progress.
Oopsie Daisy
(6,670 posts)... those are the most logical (??) or obvious reasons I can think of for the treachery of continually and willfully shitting on the Democratic party and our loyal and experienced leadership. I fear that a repeat of 2016 is at hand.
betsuni
(29,078 posts)Only one's personal purity-vanity matters. It's not about governing to help people as best you can against extremist right-wing fanatic Republicans, it's about a moral purity revolution to punish the Democratic Party.
Medicare for All is coming back as the main all-or-nothing purity test like in 2016.
Rob H.
(5,851 posts)lapucelle
(21,061 posts)and then elected by the full Democratic Caucus by a vote of 131-84.
It's an elected position. AOC didn't win the committee vote and she didn't win the full caucus vote.
If by "selected" you mean "elected by a large majority of his peers in a secret ballot", then Connolly was "selected".
SunImp
(2,705 posts)weasely attacking AOC. How can people cry about people "attacking" Democrats while also feel the need to subtlety attack AOC in the same post?
Rob H.
(5,851 posts)lapucelle
(21,061 posts)What does that mean?
It sounds like youre calling some members the cancer of the Democratic Party.
How can anyone cry about apocryphal attacks on one Democrat while calling other Democrats a cancer of the Party?
Does calling some Democrats the cancer of the Party qualify as a weasely attack, or is it different because referring to members as a cancer of the Party is overtly disgusting as opposed to an imaginary subtle attack?
Oopsie Daisy
(6,670 posts)lapucelle
(21,061 posts)Imagine calling members a "cancer" because you disagree with them. It sounds like the kind of thing Stephen Miller would say.
tritsofme
(19,900 posts)MorbidButterflyTat
(4,512 posts)I wish I had known that the fate of the US and democracy depended upon one man on a MAGAt Republican led committee.
If half of the Dem bashers bashed MAGAts half as much as they bash Dems, maybe something positive for American democracy would result.
marble falls
(71,926 posts)orangecrush
(30,260 posts)DJ Synikus Makisimus
(1,438 posts)Or perhaps Ed Case or Henry Cuellar. Just sayin'.
AZProgressive
(29,929 posts)Nicholas Wu and Holly Otterbein
Wed, April 30, 2025 at 1:45 AM MST
Five months ago, she chose to play the inside game with her fellow House Democrats, running for her partys top post on the high-profile Oversight Committee. She came up short to a more senior lawmaker, Rep. Gerry Connolly of Virginia, and left the committee entirely.
Now she has a second chance. Connolly unexpectedly announced Monday he will soon step aside for health reasons, leaving her with another critical choice one made even more momentous by how much has changed inside the Democratic Party since she last chose to try and move up the House ranks.
Faced with the stresses of President Donald Trumps second term, Democratic voters are yearning for younger and more assertive leadership. Many see exactly what they are looking for in Ocasio-Cortez, 35, who has traveled the country in recent months, packing rally after rally with Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and fueling speculation about a potential White House run.
In other words, the stage afforded as ranking member of the House Oversight Committee is suddenly looking a whole lot smaller, and Ocasio-Cortez is remaining publicly and privately noncommittal as speculation swirls about Connollys successor.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/big-decision-could-shape-aoc-084500156.html
I decided to post this story here instead of starting another thread but is related to the topic of this thread.