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Brenda

(2,054 posts)
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 04:36 PM Apr 2025

75-Year-Old Democrat Who Beat AOC for Key Role Resigns After 4 Months

Reminder that in December, Nancy Pelosi, from her hospital bed, whipped the vote for Gerry Connolly—who'd recently been diagnosed with throat cancer—against Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

On Monday, Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-Va.) tendered his resignation as ranking Democrat on the House Oversight Committee, a key role during a presidential administration that’s churning out hourly (minutely???) corruption scandals. He’ll be “stepping back as Ranking Member of the Oversight Committee soon,” he wrote in the resignation letter, without offering a precise date, and adding that this will also be his last term in Congress. Six months ago, Connolly, who’s 75 years old, announced his throat cancer diagnosis—in his letter, Connolly shared the devastating news that “the cancer, while initially beaten back, has now returned.”


Hey Democratic leadership: You're doing it wrong!

https://www.jezebel.com/75-year-old-democrat-who-beat-aoc-for-key-role-resigns-after-4-months
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75-Year-Old Democrat Who Beat AOC for Key Role Resigns After 4 Months (Original Post) Brenda Apr 2025 OP
Who'da thunk it? BeyondGeography Apr 2025 #1
I've known three people who have had that cancer. He lasted longer than what I Autumn Apr 2025 #2
Post removed Post removed Apr 2025 #6
And I'm married to someone with that cancer and she's doing fine three years in. onenote Apr 2025 #41
I'm glad your wife is doing so well. My cousins son wasn't so lucky. nt Autumn Apr 2025 #50
Thank you for speaking out for the Congressman, who has always had a good reputation as a strong Dem Hekate Apr 2025 #69
Thanks onenote Apr 2025 #75
A fighter indeed Hekate Apr 2025 #82
Perhaps this is the time JBTaurus83 Apr 2025 #3
Or not... there are more senior and experienced people ahead of her.... getagrip_already Apr 2025 #30
She's not even a member of the Committee. onenote Apr 2025 #42
She was a member though, wasn't she. gab13by13 Apr 2025 #51
She was, but she chose instead to become a member of Energy and Commerce onenote Apr 2025 #52
Who didn't see this coming? IzzaNuDay Apr 2025 #4
Exactly. Connolly has served well, but should have stepped down from that position. Raven123 Apr 2025 #18
maybe it was his last wish? Give the guy a break LymphocyteLover Apr 2025 #20
"Give him a break"? With Democracy on the line? That's a big negatory, good buddy. nt Shipwack Apr 2025 #23
He was not going to be the difference FFS. The GOP controls that committee and have not even had LymphocyteLover Apr 2025 #34
My last fucking wish could be America doesn't become Alpeduez21 Apr 2025 #24
A fascist Demicratic party would have dumped him.nt delisen Apr 2025 #32
He wasn't going to keep us away from fascism, FFS LymphocyteLover Apr 2025 #33
Agree and it's delusional to think otherwise imo Meowmee Apr 2025 #107
Bit of a harsh take, I think. Make a wish? yorkster Apr 2025 #84
The US Congress isn't the Make-A-Wish Foundation, especially in these times of the darkly looming Trumpian dictatorship. Celerity Apr 2025 #46
A fine strategy at the country club, but not Congress. Duncan Grant Apr 2025 #89
" hasn't exactly been energized to take on an existential political fight for the soul of the nation..." IrishBubbaLiberal Apr 2025 #5
not just a bad idea Skittles Apr 2025 #11
But... but... but... You don't understand! Shipwack Apr 2025 #25
OH! OH! and it would be AGEIST to not give him his turn! Skittles Apr 2025 #27
I am thinking that the Democratic Party that survives this Trump mess Dan Apr 2025 #7
One would hope. sop Apr 2025 #9
it will be a different party, for sure LymphocyteLover Apr 2025 #21
Pelosi's belief in the Old School DEMs to the detriment of all Democrats. IrishBubbaLiberal Apr 2025 #8
gee, who would have thought that about a 75 year old with cancer Skittles Apr 2025 #10
Think u and I also used to agree a lot when DU first started IrishBubbaLiberal Apr 2025 #12
heyyyyy! Skittles Apr 2025 #13
What ageist and ableist claptrap. Ms. Toad Apr 2025 #14
No, it is not ageist, it is about truth. Brenda Apr 2025 #15
That would be true IF the fact of AOC's age were what was used to reject her. Ms. Toad Apr 2025 #17
Preach! Oopsie Daisy Apr 2025 #92
So why was AOC passed over for a guy with cancer that admits he wasn't doing the job and is stepping down. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2025 #97
Was someone stating it was the fact of her age that was used to select him over her? Ms. Toad Apr 2025 #99
Totally agree. This isn't about any old school Dem leadership. ancianita Apr 2025 #16
I agree, will never understand why so many are so quick to throw experience out with the bath water... blue_jay Apr 2025 #19
I do believe Conolly got the job because Pelosi stepped in and Pelosi's MadameButterfly Apr 2025 #22
The same thing happened in Texas when Jessica Cisneros ran against Henry Cuellar Rob H. Apr 2025 #72
Congress is the worst example to use for throwing experience out EdmondDantes_ Apr 2025 #49
Thank you for saying this Hekate Apr 2025 #71
Thank you, Gerry Connolly, for your years of service. I hope you recover from your cancer. Gore1FL Apr 2025 #26
AOC will not "slide in" to the position of Ranking Member on the Oversight Committee. lapucelle Apr 2025 #35
I apologize that I didn't spell out the complete process. Gore1FL Apr 2025 #45
She can still be elected the ranking member of the Oversight Committee, but she needs a waiver from Dem House leadership Celerity Apr 2025 #48
She also needs the votes of the Democratic members. comradebillyboy Apr 2025 #63
Lots of folks don't seem to have any idea about how any of this works. lapucelle Apr 2025 #79
Yes, one of the chronic disinformation mongers was blaming Nixie Apr 2025 #96
And it was a secret ballot. lapucelle Apr 2025 #98
As always, a perfect explanation and needed reality/info. Nixie Apr 2025 #104
Well, that's a glorious pile of Malarkey (nt) NoRethugFriends Apr 2025 #81
well, of course she needs the votes, I was only discussing the procedure where she could even run for the position Celerity Apr 2025 #88
I certainly appreciate your explanation of the procedures. comradebillyboy Apr 2025 #101
AOC applied for a waiver to be allowed to serve on both committees. It wasn't granted. N/T lapucelle Apr 2025 #68
And she chose energy and commerce over oversight onenote Apr 2025 #77
Indeed she did. She's wanted to be on Energy and Commerce since her first term. N/T lapucelle Apr 2025 #80
😂🤣 Oopsie Daisy Apr 2025 #95
What part was funny? nt Gore1FL Apr 2025 #100
Cancer is so horrid! Just when you think you have it beat--it pops up its head again. I have known riversedge Apr 2025 #28
Not A Good Look, Nancy Chasstev365 Apr 2025 #29
Sorry to hear this. I hope that he gets treatment. This does not mean that AOC should just slide question everything Apr 2025 #31
AOC is no longer on the Oversight Committee. lapucelle Apr 2025 #36
And folks are excoriating David Hogg for proposing we boost new fighters Arazi Apr 2025 #37
What is it y'all used to say? "Your sons and your daughters are beyond your command..." Prairie Gates Apr 2025 #38
These positions are won by convincing members you are the best person for the job. No matter how much whining is done tritsofme Apr 2025 #39
I'm sure the Dems most powerful member putting her thumb on the scale meant nothing Arazi Apr 2025 #40
It was an open vote of the Democratic caucus, AOC overwhelmingly lost. tritsofme Apr 2025 #43
Pelosi is absolutely welcome to weigh in Arazi Apr 2025 #44
Yes, Pelosi has done much to earn the respect of her colleagues, and her opinion matters to them. tritsofme Apr 2025 #47
Are you implying AOC was wrong to challenge Connelly? Arazi Apr 2025 #56
Not at all, I think it was a valuable learning experience for her. tritsofme Apr 2025 #60
Was she not "owning" her loss? Did I miss something? Arazi Apr 2025 #62
No, you're right, she handled it fine. However some supporters, OPs like this being a good example tritsofme Apr 2025 #64
And in typical fashion, the deciders got it wrong. Renew Deal Apr 2025 #53
She's free to try again. tritsofme Apr 2025 #54
No. A lot of times they're won because the leadership is pleasing the corporate donors Sky Jewels Apr 2025 #59
If you think that is an accurate description of Nancy Pelosi, you are off your rocker. tritsofme Apr 2025 #61
It's disgusting slander meant to discourage support of Democrats and encourage hate for them. betsuni Apr 2025 #66
Down thread, someone called supporters of Connolly the "cancer of the party". N/T lapucelle Apr 2025 #86
Dt, someone called people slipping in needless digs at AOC in their praises for Rep Conolly "cancer of the party SunImp Apr 2025 #105
Yep. And while going after fellow Democrats might earn you a lot of likes on social media... W_HAMILTON Apr 2025 #106
It is so nice to see the enthusiasm at DU regarding someone's demise, and open the door JohnSJ Apr 2025 #55
Yes, that lust to hate Democrats. betsuni Apr 2025 #58
I wish him well - truly. I will add, health aside, he wasn't right for the moment. I hope that the party... themaguffin Apr 2025 #57
I wish him well and I hope his replacement is someone who's as experienced and respected as he is. Oopsie Daisy Apr 2025 #65
It's part of the rule of never giving Democrats the benefit of the doubt, assuming evil corrupt motives betsuni Apr 2025 #67
Reasons? You want reasons? --- Well... I'd start by suggesting that vanity and arrogance and virtue signaling... Oopsie Daisy Apr 2025 #90
I have to remind myself: Nothing is better than something, incrementalism and compromise for progress is a sin. betsuni Apr 2025 #103
Well, his selection kept AOC from getting the job, so he's served his purpose nt Rob H. Apr 2025 #70
Connolly was elected by the Oversight Committee, recommended by the Steering Committee, lapucelle Apr 2025 #73
The usual cancer of the party out here complimenting Connolly, but at the same time SunImp Apr 2025 #74
There's a pretty sizable portion of DU posters comprised of older, conservative Democrats nt Rob H. Apr 2025 #83
"The usual cancer of the Party are out here..."? lapucelle Apr 2025 #85
That was shameful and disgusting, wasn't it? Oopsie Daisy Apr 2025 #91
It was shameful and disgusting. lapucelle Apr 2025 #93
It is definitely MAGA level discourse. For shame. tritsofme Apr 2025 #94
Gee MorbidButterflyTat Apr 2025 #76
Little early for grave dancing. marble falls Apr 2025 #78
We can't afford this kind of bullshit orangecrush Apr 2025 #87
Perhaps Jared Golden can take his place. DJ Synikus Makisimus Apr 2025 #102
The big decision that could shape AOC's future AZProgressive Apr 2025 #108

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
2. I've known three people who have had that cancer. He lasted longer than what I
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 04:40 PM
Apr 2025

thought he would last In office. The treatment is brutal. Damn shame Nancy had to have him instead of someone who would last.

Response to Autumn (Reply #2)

onenote

(46,142 posts)
41. And I'm married to someone with that cancer and she's doing fine three years in.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 08:32 AM
Apr 2025

And I also know Gerry, who has been a force for his constituents, both in local government and Congress.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
69. Thank you for speaking out for the Congressman, who has always had a good reputation as a strong Dem
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 12:48 PM
Apr 2025

Best wishes to you and your wife for her continued recovery.

onenote

(46,142 posts)
75. Thanks
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 01:36 PM
Apr 2025

In our 28 years of marriage she has had cancer three times— breast cancer twice and then esophageal. She is a fighter and still is active, traveling, scuba diving, and attending protests.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
30. Or not... there are more senior and experienced people ahead of her....
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 07:33 PM
Apr 2025

Being part of the squad, calling for dems to not vote, isnt a cause for advance.ent.

gab13by13

(32,321 posts)
51. She was a member though, wasn't she.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 09:31 AM
Apr 2025

It's past time for Democratic leadership to drop the notion that they must elect moderates to head certain committees, and they must nominate moderates to run in certain districts.

How about picking the best candidate?

onenote

(46,142 posts)
52. She was, but she chose instead to become a member of Energy and Commerce
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 09:33 AM
Apr 2025

She's not going to be allowed to be ranking on oversight and retain her membership on energy and commerce.

IzzaNuDay

(1,295 posts)
4. Who didn't see this coming?
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 04:43 PM
Apr 2025

Though I feel some bit of sympathy for Rep. Connolly that he had this condition, the fact remains he knew this cancer is a hard one to fight, even if he were not leading the oversight committee. He could have been more effective not taking the role, allowing AOC to lead and he and/or others mentor her.

But it’s all about power and control. SMH.

LymphocyteLover

(9,847 posts)
34. He was not going to be the difference FFS. The GOP controls that committee and have not even had
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 08:53 PM
Apr 2025

hearings of any note.

Alpeduez21

(2,053 posts)
24. My last fucking wish could be America doesn't become
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 07:17 PM
Apr 2025

A fucking fascist regime. I guess for some people being in congress isn’t considered enough. We need people who will fight for us not dreamers from the make a wish foundation

yorkster

(3,832 posts)
84. Bit of a harsh take, I think. Make a wish?
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 02:47 PM
Apr 2025

Could we have a little grace for someone who has been a powerful, intelligent fighter in the House. Some of his Virginia constituents have spoken highly of him here. I suspect Nancy thought he would be an effective choice, no doubt hoping his treatment would also be effective.

Celerity

(54,407 posts)
46. The US Congress isn't the Make-A-Wish Foundation, especially in these times of the darkly looming Trumpian dictatorship.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 08:58 AM
Apr 2025

Duncan Grant

(8,920 posts)
89. A fine strategy at the country club, but not Congress.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 04:27 PM
Apr 2025

Last wish or not, these responsibilities transcend individual desires. All this is hypothetical, of course, but it’s not how an opposition party should work.

 

IrishBubbaLiberal

(2,561 posts)
5. " hasn't exactly been energized to take on an existential political fight for the soul of the nation..."
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 04:44 PM
Apr 2025

Jezebell:

(…….)

It’s entirely understandable that he hasn’t exactly been energized to take on an existential political fight for the soul of the nation over the last few months. What’s not understandable is why he even ran for this position, and why top Democrats like Nancy Pelosi so determinedly went to bat for him. The Oversight Committee is charged with ensuring efficiency and accountability in the federal government. So, Democrats on the committee are naturally taking on an incredibly dire role right now. Trump’s first term was nothing if not a hotbed for corruption, what with his lack of tax returns, or all the suspicious activities surrounding his businesses. In his second term so far, Trump and his entire family appear to be profiting massively off scam-y memecoins, while other members of his administration, including Vice President JD Vance, are partaking in their own suspicious activities.

Trotting out a justifiably fatigued 75-year-old man recovering from cancer to lead such a dogged fight was never a good idea. In the last three-and-a-half months, Connolly has routinely disappeared during key moments when Democrats needed visible leaders front and center, communicating to the American public and highlighting the stakes of everything that’s happening. And it’s not as if Democrats didn’t have other options with the demonstrated ability to do all of that: Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), who’s far and away the party’s brightest star right now, also ran for the role in December.

Skittles

(171,713 posts)
27. OH! OH! and it would be AGEIST to not give him his turn!
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 07:22 PM
Apr 2025

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Dan

(5,179 posts)
7. I am thinking that the Democratic Party that survives this Trump mess
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 05:02 PM
Apr 2025

Is going to be one lean mean fighting machine. A take no prisoners type of party with no tolerance for peace with the republicans.

 

IrishBubbaLiberal

(2,561 posts)
8. Pelosi's belief in the Old School DEMs to the detriment of all Democrats.
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 05:06 PM
Apr 2025

He obviously is a good man.
Been in Congress a long time.
A dependable Democratic Party member.

Thank you Rep. Gerry Connolly (D-Va.)
I hope you get well.


BUT I never understood how bizarrely Pelosi thought it was so
important to defeat AOC.

Pelosi has seen her crown age, it’s really rusty and crusty, tarnished now,
And for whatever reason Pelosi belief in the Old School DEMs
to the detriment of all Democrats.

I would LOVE to see more young DEM new faces.
Democrats in their 20s and 30s in office, in Congress
Instead of the elderly DEMs of 70s and 80+ years old.

Yet some of the Congress who are old,,
Like Independent Bernie…have THE FIRE RAGING STILL.
JOHN LEWIS when elderly STILL HAD THE FIRE RAGING STILL.


 

IrishBubbaLiberal

(2,561 posts)
12. Think u and I also used to agree a lot when DU first started
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 05:17 PM
Apr 2025

In 2001, 2002,
I believe my DU name back then was
ProtectFreedomImpeachBushNow

(Or maybe that was my 2nd DU name,,, can’t remember anything
anymore in detail for sure)

Anyway

GOOD TO SEE YOU ARE STILL HERE

😎

From July 2003
https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x75626

Ms. Toad

(38,638 posts)
14. What ageist and ableist claptrap.
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 05:32 PM
Apr 2025
Trotting out a justifiably fatigued 75-year-old man recovering from cancer to lead such a dogged fight was never a good idea. . . . It shouldn’t have taken a 75-year-old man receiving a second cancer diagnosis for the party to see that.


I'm "only" 69, but I have two cancer diagnoses - breast cancer and sarcoma; the latter extremely aggressive and hard to treat. The first is from 9 years ago; the second from 4 years ago. None of those things render me incapable of doing my job. I was back on the job Monday after a partial mastectomy for the first - and worked through radiation therapy, and I was teaching from home via zoom 3 days after the final stage of limb-sparing surgery for the latter. Between the two, I broke my tib-fib (spiral fracture) and was back to work 7 days later. It would have been earlier, except that my University initially violated the ADA by refusing to allow me to return until I was able to work in the building 40 hours a week without accommodations.

Asserting that someone is incapable of doing a job based solely on the fact of their age, or the fact of their diagnosis is ageist and ableist claptrap and has no place on a progressive discussion board.

Was he the best for the job? I don't know. Was he impaired by either his age or cancer? I don't know.

But I find the suggestion offensive that we should have known better based solely on his age and cancer diagnosis.

Brenda

(2,054 posts)
15. No, it is not ageist, it is about truth.
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 06:07 PM
Apr 2025

And Ageism in reverse. Ignoring young people got us here.

Ms. Toad

(38,638 posts)
17. That would be true IF the fact of AOC's age were what was used to reject her.
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 06:17 PM
Apr 2025

Or to justify giving her the job.

There are competent and experienced 35 year olds - and competent and experienced 75 year olds. Simply reciting an age and rejecting someone based on that age is ageist. As to age, the article recited the fact of his age, and no more (beyond that he was a young 75 year old) as a reason we should have known better. That is the very definition of ageist.

Cuthbert Allgood

(5,339 posts)
97. So why was AOC passed over for a guy with cancer that admits he wasn't doing the job and is stepping down.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 09:09 PM
Apr 2025

Ms. Toad

(38,638 posts)
99. Was someone stating it was the fact of her age that was used to select him over her?
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 09:21 PM
Apr 2025

And if so, I expect a link - since I was addressing an opinion piece which expressly used age and cancer diagnosis, without more, as reasons we should have known better.

If you can provide a link to someone saying that her age, without more, was why she was not selected, I will agree that that opinion is ageist.

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
16. Totally agree. This isn't about any old school Dem leadership.
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 06:17 PM
Apr 2025
The House Democratic Steering and Policy Committee voted 34 to 27 to appoint Connolly -- Ranking Democratic Member of the House Oversight Comte. -- with the full caucus vote being 131–84.

blue_jay

(263 posts)
19. I agree, will never understand why so many are so quick to throw experience out with the bath water...
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 06:31 PM
Apr 2025

Don't get me wrong. I understand the frustration and impatience of youth and getting things moved forward (I was rooting for AOC too) but am not convinced that allowing the elder dem some dignity and reward that he put in the work and hours for to have the opportunity to achieve this, (before he either got better from illness or didn't) caused irreparable harm. Also think we can never truly know which the better choice would have been. Perhaps he did things the younger gen dem would not have known to do, perhaps we lost time. Honestly haven't been able to pay any attention to his committee so I may be way off base (so please forgive my ignorance). Just think perhaps they knew this would/ could happen and ultimately gave both people the opportunity to fill that position and not dishonor someone who has put in more of the hours. I hope I'm right. I know politics is a vicious dicey game and who knows who will replace him or if it will be fair. Perhaps whatever happens next will change my views in the future.

All that said, I am still against the suspicious and consistent agenda against the progressives and am looking forward to more and more like AOC gaining seniority and changing the dynamic of this party. I believe it can/ will happen sooner than we think.

MadameButterfly

(4,039 posts)
22. I do believe Conolly got the job because Pelosi stepped in and Pelosi's
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 07:13 PM
Apr 2025

reason was not age but resistance to a Progressive firebrand. She will not be able to stop AOC's rise in the end. She and the DNC will attempt to keep her from a presidential run, and don't want to give her the limelight to help her get there. So AOC did rallies with Bernie instead and got even more attention. I was glad she was free of the chairmanship so she could do that. Now it's time for her to run again.

The wisdom of running another woman with a double glass ceiling who looks like a child of the 60's for president--if indeed that's where she is headed-- is not mine to know right now. We just need to use all the talent we've got. And nothing the establishment tries to do will keep AOC down.

I want to add that I deeply respect Pelosi who I think is the greatest Speaker in history. I think AOC could follow in her footsteps.

Rob H.

(5,851 posts)
72. The same thing happened in Texas when Jessica Cisneros ran against Henry Cuellar
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 01:17 PM
Apr 2025

Pelosi endorsed and recorded last-minute robocalls for an anti-abortion moderate under active FBI investigation in Cuellar's case to keep progressive Cisneros from winning, Cuellar went on to be indicted for bribery, unlawful foreign influence, and money laundering, so, yeah. Great choice.

EdmondDantes_

(1,797 posts)
49. Congress is the worst example to use for throwing experience out
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 09:19 AM
Apr 2025

Literally the opposite happens because it's a system built on relationships.

Gore1FL

(22,951 posts)
26. Thank you, Gerry Connolly, for your years of service. I hope you recover from your cancer.
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 07:21 PM
Apr 2025

I hope AOC slides into the position of the ranking Democrat on the House Oversight Committee.

lapucelle

(21,061 posts)
35. AOC will not "slide in" to the position of Ranking Member on the Oversight Committee.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 07:51 AM
Apr 2025

Nobody "slides into" a leadership position. The Democratic members of the committee vote, the Steering Committee votes to recommend, and then the entire Democratic Caucus votes.

Besides, AOC is no longer on the Oversight Committee.

Gore1FL

(22,951 posts)
45. I apologize that I didn't spell out the complete process.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 08:55 AM
Apr 2025

Please forgive my use of vernacular.

It is weird that people cannot be re-assign committees. I didn’t know that.

Celerity

(54,407 posts)
48. She can still be elected the ranking member of the Oversight Committee, but she needs a waiver from Dem House leadership
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 09:17 AM
Apr 2025

in order to switch over from the Energy Committee.

Pelosi may well put paid to that notion, behind the scenes. If not Pelosi, then perhaps others will try and stop the manoeuvre, if AOC actually tries to do it, which I am not sure she even will.

comradebillyboy

(10,955 posts)
63. She also needs the votes of the Democratic members.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 10:44 AM
Apr 2025

It seems to me AOC has not done much to earn the support and trust of her fellow congressional Democrats.

lapucelle

(21,061 posts)
79. Lots of folks don't seem to have any idea about how any of this works.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 01:45 PM
Apr 2025

They are not aware that AOC is no longer a member of the Oversight Committee.

They think that a member can "slide in" as a Ranking Member of a committee they no longer belong to.

They think that committee leaders are "selected" by nefarious power players rather than elected by the entire Democratic Caucus in a secret ballot.

They don't understand the concept of exclusive committees and waivers.

The don't even understand that AOC herself has long sought to be a member of the exclusive Energy and Commerce Committee and might not want to leave that role.

Nixie

(17,984 posts)
96. Yes, one of the chronic disinformation mongers was blaming
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 08:50 PM
Apr 2025

Nancy Pelosi when it was a 131-84 vote against AOC that defeated her against Connelly. So 64% voted against her, but that’s too much reality to acknowledge so they just blame Nancy.

lapucelle

(21,061 posts)
98. And it was a secret ballot.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 09:11 PM
Apr 2025

And all the insta-experts are clueless as to how these things actually work according to House rules.

A lot of them didn't even know that AOC is no longer a member of the Oversight Committee.

And then there are others who think AOC can simply be reassigned with some kind of magical waiver. They don't realize that Democrats have exactly 21 seats on the Oversight Committee. A Democrat would have to leave the committee for AOC to be reassigned.

Celerity

(54,407 posts)
88. well, of course she needs the votes, I was only discussing the procedure where she could even run for the position
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 03:53 PM
Apr 2025

lapucelle

(21,061 posts)
68. AOC applied for a waiver to be allowed to serve on both committees. It wasn't granted. N/T
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 12:44 PM
Apr 2025

onenote

(46,142 posts)
77. And she chose energy and commerce over oversight
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 01:41 PM
Apr 2025

She could have stayed on Oversight but she has wanted to be on energy and commerce since she was elected to Congress

riversedge

(80,810 posts)
28. Cancer is so horrid! Just when you think you have it beat--it pops up its head again. I have known
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 07:23 PM
Apr 2025

some friends that this has happened to. It is so horrible-not just for the person with cancer but for their families.

Chasstev365

(7,798 posts)
29. Not A Good Look, Nancy
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 07:26 PM
Apr 2025

I sincerely mean this: You did so many great things for us, but shutting out AOC as the ranking member for Gerry Connolly with his age and cancer was not one of them. She's not that far left.

AOC's "radical" ideas were the mainstream views of the Democratic Party of FDR, JFK, LBJ, and RFK. She's also a fighter. Please give her a chance.

question everything

(52,134 posts)
31. Sorry to hear this. I hope that he gets treatment. This does not mean that AOC should just slide
Mon Apr 28, 2025, 07:45 PM
Apr 2025

into the position.


Arazi

(8,887 posts)
37. And folks are excoriating David Hogg for proposing we boost new fighters
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 08:08 AM
Apr 2025

If a current Dem fighter appears to be tired and out of fire

Prairie Gates

(8,156 posts)
38. What is it y'all used to say? "Your sons and your daughters are beyond your command..."
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 08:13 AM
Apr 2025

So live up to your own advice and get out of the new one if you can't lend your hand.

Pro-AOC
Pro-Hogg
Democrat!

tritsofme

(19,900 posts)
39. These positions are won by convincing members you are the best person for the job. No matter how much whining is done
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 08:21 AM
Apr 2025

AOC didn’t do that.

tritsofme

(19,900 posts)
43. It was an open vote of the Democratic caucus, AOC overwhelmingly lost.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 08:35 AM
Apr 2025

No one is at fault for failing to convince her colleagues but herself.

Pelosi is free to endorse who she chooses, another Pelosi endorsee lost his race on the same day, she doesn’t have some sorcerous power over the caucus. It’s not a scandal for this woman to speak her mind.

AOC just didn’t make her case in that race.

Arazi

(8,887 posts)
44. Pelosi is absolutely welcome to weigh in
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 08:40 AM
Apr 2025

But let’s not kid ourselves that Nancy’s prodigious power on every level (contacts, fundraising and $$ for members) means nothing.

tritsofme

(19,900 posts)
47. Yes, Pelosi has done much to earn the respect of her colleagues, and her opinion matters to them.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 09:11 AM
Apr 2025

A putative rising star in the party would seem to have much to learn from such a person.

Arazi

(8,887 posts)
56. Are you implying AOC was wrong to challenge Connelly?
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 10:01 AM
Apr 2025

And AOC appears to have certainly moderated and learned from Pelosi and others.

tritsofme

(19,900 posts)
60. Not at all, I think it was a valuable learning experience for her.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 10:25 AM
Apr 2025

She ultimately got more support than I expected, but she owns her own loss.

Arazi

(8,887 posts)
62. Was she not "owning" her loss? Did I miss something?
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 10:44 AM
Apr 2025

You (again) appear to be impugning her, implying that she somehow had sour grapes about this.

Fairly sure she’s not a newbie anymore and understands the political games afoot. Nobody’s fooled on what happened here imo

tritsofme

(19,900 posts)
64. No, you're right, she handled it fine. However some supporters, OPs like this being a good example
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 10:48 AM
Apr 2025

Attacking Democrats and whining about the outcome, are a whole other story.

 

Sky Jewels

(9,148 posts)
59. No. A lot of times they're won because the leadership is pleasing the corporate donors
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 10:20 AM
Apr 2025

who prefer centrists who won't make waves and upset the old guard Dems who are more passionate about fighting progressives than they are about fighting fascists.

tritsofme

(19,900 posts)
61. If you think that is an accurate description of Nancy Pelosi, you are off your rocker.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 10:29 AM
Apr 2025

What a disgusting attack on good Democrats.

betsuni

(29,078 posts)
66. It's disgusting slander meant to discourage support of Democrats and encourage hate for them.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 12:23 PM
Apr 2025

SunImp

(2,705 posts)
105. Dt, someone called people slipping in needless digs at AOC in their praises for Rep Conolly "cancer of the party
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 02:53 AM
Apr 2025

Sorry, I didn't want what I said to be misinterpreted to make it seem like I was calling everyone who supported Rep Connolly "cancer" just the ones in these threads using every little opportunity to trash AOC. I admit I have been having a bad few days & that cancer comment was uncalled for & a poor word choice.

W_HAMILTON

(10,333 posts)
106. Yep. And while going after fellow Democrats might earn you a lot of likes on social media...
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 03:06 AM
Apr 2025

...(with some of those likes coming from Russian and Republican trolls looking to drive wedges, *cough cough*), it doesn't go over well with the Democrats whose votes you need to be voted into these leadership positions everyone thinks they are ready for.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
55. It is so nice to see the enthusiasm at DU regarding someone's demise, and open the door
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 09:58 AM
Apr 2025

to bash Pelosi, Schumer, and any Democrat who doesn't doesn't fit "the mold", while opening the door to celebrate David Hogg whose main experience is surviving a mass shooting, advocating "defund the police, and elimination of ICE".

I am done with DU for a while, and no I won't let the door hit my ass on the way out.

The more things change, the more they stay the same, and we will keep reliving 2000, 2016, and 2024, where it is either my way or I will take my marbles and go home.

Enjoy, and have a good day.








themaguffin

(5,221 posts)
57. I wish him well - truly. I will add, health aside, he wasn't right for the moment. I hope that the party...
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 10:07 AM
Apr 2025

recognizes the moment and elevates someone who is ready for the moment. We need war time leaders. We are not in business as usual times.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
65. I wish him well and I hope his replacement is someone who's as experienced and respected as he is.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 11:39 AM
Apr 2025

It's unclear to me why this should be seen as (yet another) opportunity to shit on Democrats and the Democratic party.

betsuni

(29,078 posts)
67. It's part of the rule of never giving Democrats the benefit of the doubt, assuming evil corrupt motives
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 12:39 PM
Apr 2025

and always, always taking every opportunity no matter how baseless to shit on Democrats and the party. Solidarity. For the Yelling Revolution of Stupidity and No Progress Just Punishing Democrats or whatever. I still haven't figured out is the reason for preventing progress.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
90. Reasons? You want reasons? --- Well... I'd start by suggesting that vanity and arrogance and virtue signaling...
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 05:35 PM
Apr 2025

... those are the most logical (??) or obvious reasons I can think of for the treachery of continually and willfully shitting on the Democratic party and our loyal and experienced leadership. I fear that a repeat of 2016 is at hand.

betsuni

(29,078 posts)
103. I have to remind myself: Nothing is better than something, incrementalism and compromise for progress is a sin.
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 12:59 AM
Apr 2025

Only one's personal purity-vanity matters. It's not about governing to help people as best you can against extremist right-wing fanatic Republicans, it's about a moral purity revolution to punish the Democratic Party.

Medicare for All is coming back as the main all-or-nothing purity test like in 2016.

lapucelle

(21,061 posts)
73. Connolly was elected by the Oversight Committee, recommended by the Steering Committee,
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 01:29 PM
Apr 2025

and then elected by the full Democratic Caucus by a vote of 131-84.

It's an elected position. AOC didn't win the committee vote and she didn't win the full caucus vote.

If by "selected" you mean "elected by a large majority of his peers in a secret ballot", then Connolly was "selected".



SunImp

(2,705 posts)
74. The usual cancer of the party out here complimenting Connolly, but at the same time
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 01:33 PM
Apr 2025

weasely attacking AOC. How can people cry about people "attacking" Democrats while also feel the need to subtlety attack AOC in the same post?

Rob H.

(5,851 posts)
83. There's a pretty sizable portion of DU posters comprised of older, conservative Democrats nt
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 02:11 PM
Apr 2025

lapucelle

(21,061 posts)
85. "The usual cancer of the Party are out here..."?
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 03:09 PM
Apr 2025

What does that mean?

It sounds like you’re calling some members the “cancer of the Democratic Party”.

How can anyone cry about apocryphal attacks on one Democrat while calling other Democrats “a cancer of the Party”?

Does calling some Democrats “the cancer of the Party” qualify as a “weasely attack”, or is it different because referring to members as “a cancer of the Party” is overtly disgusting as opposed to an imaginary subtle attack?

lapucelle

(21,061 posts)
93. It was shameful and disgusting.
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 06:01 PM
Apr 2025

Imagine calling members a "cancer" because you disagree with them. It sounds like the kind of thing Stephen Miller would say.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,512 posts)
76. Gee
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 01:39 PM
Apr 2025

I wish I had known that the fate of the US and democracy depended upon one man on a MAGAt Republican led committee.

If half of the Dem bashers bashed MAGAts half as much as they bash Dems, maybe something positive for American democracy would result.



AZProgressive

(29,929 posts)
108. The big decision that could shape AOC's future
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 06:37 AM
Apr 2025

Nicholas Wu and Holly Otterbein
Wed, April 30, 2025 at 1:45 AM MST

Five months ago, she chose to play the inside game with her fellow House Democrats, running for her party’s top post on the high-profile Oversight Committee. She came up short to a more senior lawmaker, Rep. Gerry Connolly of Virginia, and left the committee entirely.

Now she has a second chance. Connolly unexpectedly announced Monday he will soon step aside for health reasons, leaving her with another critical choice — one made even more momentous by how much has changed inside the Democratic Party since she last chose to try and move up the House ranks.

Faced with the stresses of President Donald Trump’s second term, Democratic voters are yearning for younger and more assertive leadership. Many see exactly what they are looking for in Ocasio-Cortez, 35, who has traveled the country in recent months, packing rally after rally with Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and fueling speculation about a potential White House run.

In other words, the stage afforded as ranking member of the House Oversight Committee is suddenly looking a whole lot smaller, and Ocasio-Cortez is remaining publicly and privately noncommittal as speculation swirls about Connolly’s successor.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/big-decision-could-shape-aoc-084500156.html

I decided to post this story here instead of starting another thread but is related to the topic of this thread.

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