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demmiblue

(39,720 posts)
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 08:56 AM Apr 2025

Asked about new CNN polling... Sen. Schumer argues it will take time as Democrats show the contrast with President Trump.



Ron Filipkowski
‪@ronfilipkowski.bsky.social‬

As a party, we are prisoners being held hostage by people who simply refuse to accept that their time has passed and won’t accept that others more capable right now. Stay in the Senate, but step down from leadership. It’s time for a new approach, a new face, & a new voice.

As a party, we are prisoners being held hostage by people who simply refuse to accept that their time has passed and won’t accept that others more capable right now. Stay in the Senate, but step down from leadership. It’s time for a new approach, a new face, & a new voice.

Ron Filipkowski (@ronfilipkowski.bsky.social) 2025-04-30T12:28:38.351Z
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Asked about new CNN polling... Sen. Schumer argues it will take time as Democrats show the contrast with President Trump. (Original Post) demmiblue Apr 2025 OP
I suggest dwmocrats send their attack dogs to the media Johonny Apr 2025 #1
Hey Chuck, ya think maybe a strongly-worded letter will speed things up a bit? Ocelot II Apr 2025 #2
Perhaps if he'd sent TEN strong questions instead of just eight we would get somewhere. CrispyQ Apr 2025 #27
Talk about not reading the room. Phoenix61 Apr 2025 #3
What contrast Chuck? Ponietz Apr 2025 #4
Really? WTF Chuck . You pissing in my ear and telling me it raining? Autumn Apr 2025 #5
As if the Biden administration didn't already show the contrast Ponietz Apr 2025 #31
"It will take time", would that be Merick Garland time, 23-months or more? Hotler Apr 2025 #6
Cory Booker was a surprise & disappointment. CrispyQ Apr 2025 #29
He's poison, force him to quit. They made Biden do it. Blue Full Moon Apr 2025 #7
Are we experiencing Kabuki Politics? jalan48 Apr 2025 #8
He's correct. Most folks in the US are not as connected, active or involved in politics as people here. Oopsie Daisy Apr 2025 #9
It IS Democratic leadership's fault! LuvLoogie Apr 2025 #14
I'm not "making excuses"... I'm telling it like it is. Oopsie Daisy Apr 2025 #17
I get what you are saying, but Democratic leadership needs the heat. LuvLoogie Apr 2025 #19
What meaningful and effective actions would you propose instead? Oopsie Daisy Apr 2025 #22
Go back and read the recent news about South Korea synni Apr 2025 #33
I'm sure you're aware that the South Korean government is * Oopsie Daisy Apr 2025 #34
You ARE making excuses. This is not campaign season. We aren't choosing candidates. LuvLoogie May 2025 #35
Well, my expectations are realistic. I live in the real world... and so do Schumer and Jeffries. Oopsie Daisy May 2025 #36
The reliable Dem voters who sat out and gave us Trump? leftstreet Apr 2025 #16
Chuck is an idiot. nt jrthin Apr 2025 #10
JFC, I can't with this guy. Sky Jewels Apr 2025 #11
Nobody reads your letters, Chuck dalton99a Apr 2025 #12
Nope, they use it for butt wipe while sitting on that golden toilet. republianmushroom Apr 2025 #21
He doesn't want to politically destroy Trump, just bide time and "manage" him. David__77 Apr 2025 #13
With what media will the People learn about Democratic politics, Chuck? Kid Berwyn Apr 2025 #15
He should listen to what Senator Murphy had to say about the vote last night. That was a damn good contrast. Autumn Apr 2025 #18
Sen. Chris Murphy is taking the fight to the Peopke Kid Berwyn Apr 2025 #24
**his** polling not dem polling!!! uponit7771 Apr 2025 #20
Ah yes, the Merrick Garland strategy, so favored by our Party Centrists. jalan48 Apr 2025 #23
What had "fighters" accomplished? Mountainguy Apr 2025 #25
Wow, the best strategy right now for Democrats gab13by13 Apr 2025 #32
Please step down Tribetime Apr 2025 #26
Do we have the time? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2025 #28
"...it will take time." What exactly will take time? Then, how much time will "it" take? flvegan Apr 2025 #30

CrispyQ

(40,969 posts)
27. Perhaps if he'd sent TEN strong questions instead of just eight we would get somewhere.
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 01:38 PM
Apr 2025

Ponietz

(4,330 posts)
31. As if the Biden administration didn't already show the contrast
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 02:03 PM
Apr 2025

The patty cakes played by Garland’s DOJ only reinforced Lump’s reputation for invincibility. We’re at the Bridge of Khazad Dum and the Balrog is on our heels. Is Schumer trolling us?

Hotler

(13,747 posts)
6. "It will take time", would that be Merick Garland time, 23-months or more?
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 09:35 AM
Apr 2025

And please explain the 16 yes votes the other day.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
9. He's correct. Most folks in the US are not as connected, active or involved in politics as people here.
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 09:39 AM
Apr 2025

They aren't paying attention. They aren't listening. That's not Schummer's fault. It will take time for the facts, truth and reality to sink-in.

It's the world we live in.

LuvLoogie

(8,815 posts)
14. It IS Democratic leadership's fault!
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 11:21 AM
Apr 2025

trump is in the news every minute of the day. I'm sorry but stop making excuses. The country sees Democrats lying down while the only Democrats fighting in public draw fire. Fucking hell. Schumer is as pointless as Rubio.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
17. I'm not "making excuses"... I'm telling it like it is.
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 11:35 AM
Apr 2025

I'm also telling it like it is when I remind you that shitting on Democrats and comparing them to Republicans is not helping. Rhetoric like that only serves to divide and weaken. It's akin to the BS line of "both parties are the same". There are better and more productive ways for people to respond... attacking Democrats isn't one of those ways.

LuvLoogie

(8,815 posts)
19. I get what you are saying, but Democratic leadership needs the heat.
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 11:49 AM
Apr 2025

This lack of urgency is starting to smack of a disassociative disorder.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
22. What meaningful and effective actions would you propose instead?
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 01:00 PM
Apr 2025

What meaningful and effective actions would you propose instead? It's easy to mock Schumer for sending 'stern letters' and label Democrats as ineffective or weak. However, amidst the insults and accusations, there's a striking absence of alternative solutions being put forward.

Should Schumer start shouting and flailing his arms during speeches? Or maybe stomp his feet for added 'urgency'? Perhaps a finger-wagging and lectern-pounding routine would finally make Republicans take notice and change their ways.

Rather than continually denigrating Democrats and our leadership, wouldn't it be better to elevate the conversation beyond ridicule and theatrics? That would also be better than entertaining some fantasy that if the Democrats were just stubborn enough, they could bully the GOP indo giving up their majority and all the advantages that come with being the majority. I'm sorry to be the one to break it to everyone, but that's just not going to happen. So now what?

Fact is, we are now the minority party. It's a horrible place to be. I'm not happy with it either, but that's reality. So instead of continually shitting on the party and our leadership, I challenge the Schumer-haters and Jeffries-haters to instead offer concrete and constructive ideas that could lead to actual progress. Critique is easy; solutions are what truly move us forward.

synni

(778 posts)
33. Go back and read the recent news about South Korea
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 03:11 PM
Apr 2025

Their liberal party was also the minority party, yet they stood up to tyranny, and got the job done.

It's a little thing called having courage.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
34. I'm sure you're aware that the South Korean government is *
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 03:34 PM
Apr 2025

I'm sure you're aware that the South Korean government is structured differently from the United States government in terms of its legislative branch. While the United States has a bicameral legislature consisting of the House of Representatives and the Senate, South Korea has a unicameral legislature known as the National Assembly.

Is the DP party in South Korea actually the "minority" party? Every indication is that they were not. And considering the differences in how our two governments operate and function, what specifically do you think could be effectively duplicated here?

Here in the US (and especially as a minority party for our form of government) we lack the ability to call for snap elections or to have no-confidence votes or to use other parliamentary inquiries. Even an impeachment inquiry would fall flat if the house leader refuses to bring it to the floor for a vote.

It's a mistake to shit on Democrats by insinuating that they are cowards or that they lack "courage"... but, please elaborate on your views regarding how it is that "courage" will force the house majority leader to cooperate with Democrats. --- I'm all ears.

LuvLoogie

(8,815 posts)
35. You ARE making excuses. This is not campaign season. We aren't choosing candidates.
Thu May 1, 2025, 12:47 PM
May 2025

We are asking them to get in front of people in their towns and make the steadfast Democratic argument. Not from podiums in Washington relying upon MSM for coverage. More Murphy, AOC, and Pritzker actions. Less Newsom and Fetterman. THAT type of high-level undermining of Democratic motive hurts more than disgruntled voters who see a disassociated demeanor from leadership.

Leadership needs to send active energetic members to rally around Blue Dot members in public, while the GOPs neglect and dodge citizen inquiry. And Leadership needs to get their committee members to disrupt within their own districts. This isn't complex.

And Leadership needs to get on board with the insider trading bill. That should have UNANIMOUS Democratic support.
And every Dem should be talking about due process.

Schumer and Jefferies don't need to shout and flail, they need to charge and damn the torpedoes. The Whitehouse is full of racist schoolroom punks.

What the fuck.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
36. Well, my expectations are realistic. I live in the real world... and so do Schumer and Jeffries.
Thu May 1, 2025, 01:05 PM
May 2025

leftstreet

(40,681 posts)
16. The reliable Dem voters who sat out and gave us Trump?
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 11:32 AM
Apr 2025

The 6+ million who didn't show up for Harris are the ones disconnected?

They just need time to see how bad Orange Man is?

David__77

(24,728 posts)
13. He doesn't want to politically destroy Trump, just bide time and "manage" him.
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 10:20 AM
Apr 2025

There’s a big difference. He has his specific concerns, which don’t align with actually making Trumps political destruction the priority.

Kid Berwyn

(24,395 posts)
15. With what media will the People learn about Democratic politics, Chuck?
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 11:29 AM
Apr 2025

Seems to be a recurring hole in our approach.

Dunno why, but we keep falling into it.

Autumn

(48,962 posts)
18. He should listen to what Senator Murphy had to say about the vote last night. That was a damn good contrast.
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 11:44 AM
Apr 2025

Maybe Chuck wasn't there to see the contrast. Or he was too busy to pay attention. .

Kid Berwyn

(24,395 posts)
24. Sen. Chris Murphy is taking the fight to the Peopke
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 01:09 PM
Apr 2025

Touring and telling the truth.

“It’s probably not a coincidence that my content is breaking through and more people are listening to me at a time when I’m not getting up every day thinking about my personal political future,” said Murphy, who was reelected to the Senate last year. “There’s not going to be an election in 2028 if we don’t win this fight right now.”

https://apnews.com/article/chris-murphy-democrats-trump-opposition-2026-senate-2209564b2e03d990e11abe2cb4987658

 

Mountainguy

(2,145 posts)
25. What had "fighters" accomplished?
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 01:31 PM
Apr 2025

I'd argue nothing other than providing soundbites, and most of those attacking democrats and not Trump.

Trumps cashing poll numbers are entirely self-inflicted.

Bernie and the other "fighters" are all just writing strongly worded letters. The only difference is they are reading them on a stage.

gab13by13

(32,321 posts)
32. Wow, the best strategy right now for Democrats
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 02:08 PM
Apr 2025

is to do town halls, or do what Bernie and AOC are doing.

It will be up to the people to throw out the billionaires and what Bernie and AOC are doing is listening to the people, letting the people know what Krasnov is doing to them.

There is a reason that Magat leadership told its members not do town halls. They want to keep the people in the dark about what is happening.

Schumer laid out his strategy on Chris Haye's show. Schumer flat out said that he wants Krasnov to burn it all down and then Democrats will win the next election. What Bernie and AOC are doing is trying to put out the fires.

Magats control the narrative because they speak with unified messages and repeat them over and over again.

It was Schumer who divided the party when he kneecapped House Democrats who were unified against passing the CR.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(135,718 posts)
28. Do we have the time?
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 01:39 PM
Apr 2025

Or could we perhaps be more effective at our messaging?

I hope it's the latter.

flvegan

(66,280 posts)
30. "...it will take time." What exactly will take time? Then, how much time will "it" take?
Wed Apr 30, 2025, 01:47 PM
Apr 2025

And then I guess the next question is, once "it" is identified, what is Chuck specifically doing to accelerate the time "it" will take?

I'm really not trying to speak ill of any of our dem leaders, but sometimes they really seem out of touch.

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