Trump renaming Veterans Day

[Danmel]

President Trump said Thursday that he would rename Veterans Day, on Nov. 11, as “Victory Day for World War I” and May 8, widely known as V-E Day, as “Victory Day for World War II,” so that the United States could celebrate its achievements in those conflicts.

“We won both Wars, nobody was close to us in terms of strength, bravery, or military brilliance, but we never celebrate anything,” Mr. Trump said in a late-night post on Truth Social. “We are going to start celebrating our victories again!”

I have no words. Where does one even start?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/02/us/politics/trump-veterans-day-world-war-i.html?unlocked_article_code=1.EE8.E5CF.TzXx6zvQoLqu&smid=url-share

[Emile]

1. WTF does BONE SPURS know about being a veteran?

[allegorical oracle]

29. Yes x 1000. nt

[MarineCombatEngineer]

48. Well, he did say that avoiding STDs was his Vietnam.

[DemMedic]

50. Staying away from Subic Bay could have helped with that

n/t

[MarineCombatEngineer]

59. LOL.

[70sEraVet]

62. So is be going to announce a VSTD Day

to celebrate his victory over Sexually Transmitted Diseases?

[brush]

78. He called vets suckers and losers. He's a loser all right.

Also I thought his admin is supposed to be cutting expenses. Adding another holiday for victory in both world wars sure isn't doint that.

The idiocy continues.

[11 Bravo]

81. Not one fucking thing!

[Lovie777]

2. Enough of shithole's shit...................

[Escurumbele]

53. This is one common charateristic of incompetent people, they do stupid, non-critical, non-helpful idiocy like this

including the renaming of the Gulf, the two 100ft flag poles at the white house, just to make his idiot base think he is doing something. He wants people who drive by the white house to see the flag poles and think about him...I mean, what an accomplishment, right?

Its waste and people should understand that the meaningless unproductive stupidity is a sign of his incompetence, nothing else.

[Crunchy Frog]

3. I'm going to continue celebrating Veterans Day and V-E Day.

Just like I still call the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of Mexico.

We should all be boycotting his name changes.

[no_hypocrisy]

4. There are veterans of the three branches of the Military

who didn't fight in either World Wars. The Korean War. The Vietnam War. Afghanistan. Iraq. And veterans who have served honorably without being in an overseas conflict.

You just can't invalidate them like that.

[Siwsan]

5. Somehow I KNEW he would do something like this!!

Is he going to change the name of Memorial Day to 'Suckers and Losers Day' since that's how he really feels about the people we honor on that day.

[Hornedfrog2000]

35. Nope

Itll be live forever day. Cus winners are never memoried

[Meowmee]

6. Can he do that?

This country is crazy to give so much power to the executive.

[D_Master81]

14. It's what happens

When civics aren’t stressed and intelligence is considered “elite”.

[NotHardly]

55. The Supreme Court did that, not the country

[Meowmee]

72. Maybe I should have said system instead of country 😁

Was there a specific ruling by the SC that allowed this particular executive power? I believe many of the powers were written into the constitution. imo they were always excessive as is the whole executive position- too much power with no easy way to reign them in or remove them.

[muriel_volestrangler]

79. The particular one giving him criminal immunity is the worst; some is the Republicans in Congress

just allowing him to dictate everything.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_v._United_States allows him to ignore the courts - the most they can do to him is persuade other parts of the government to ignore orders from Trump. That means he has the confidence to try anything; a lot of what he's done so far could have been prevented if some Republicans in Congress had stopped him, but so few of them have any ethics that they've sat back and allowed him to do what the fuck he likes.

[Kaleva]

7. It was Armistice Day until 1954

[Kingofalldems]

24. Well now it's Veteran's Day.

[Kaleva]

28. I didn't know that!

[Danmel]

8. I'm waiting for him to kill Juneteenth

[BeerBarrelPolka]

10. Oh yeah

I bet you're right!

[markie]

27. indirectly, he is

and so it begins

https://www.newsweek.com/cities-cancel-juneteenth-celebrations-2066715

[mwmisses4289]

31. He hasn't officially yet, but I read that

several cities have cancelled or scaled back their juneteeth celebrations because of the current political climate.

[shanti]

82. You know he will n/t

[SocialDemocrat61]

9. WWIi didn't end until August 45

[IronLionZion]

40. Correct, May 8 was just the European part of the war that ended

the war continued in Japan.

[SocialDemocrat61]

46. Yes

But I doubt Donny knows any history. LOL

[IronLionZion]

47. "You can't erase history"

[walkingman]

54. But you can re-write it to conform to ideology

[yorkster]

56. Right. VE Day May 8.

Jesus, what a damn fool. He just wants a
Victory Day like Putin has.

[CTyankee]

69. Wasn't there ever a VJ Day? I seem to remember that term being used.

[IronLionZion]

70. Sure is

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victory_over_Japan_Day

[Prof. Toru Tanaka]

77. That is a very good point.

Someone ought to bring that up to TSF. I doubt anyone will, though.

[BoRaGard]

11. what about G.O.P. Draft Dodgers Day?

Asking for G.O.P. Golfers

[rubbersole]

42. We're about to pay $70 million for a "Dear Leader" parade.

Soon there will be one a month, mandatory attendance, totalitarian tithing with a song of praise to be sung during the public floggings. One of those 12 events should be named Golf Overlord Praise Day. Drafts won't be necessary when everyone is a "volunteer".

[thomski64]

49. ...let' give Donischca Krasnov the parade

...he wants... only more like the one for Anwar Sadat....

[IronLionZion]

58. They're saving so much tax dollars from fraud, waste, and abuse

[John1956PA]

12. Thousands of U. S. military personnel gave their live between V-E Day and V-J Day.

It is disrespectful to the memories of those fallen service members to declare that May 8, 1945, marked the end of World War II.

[Harker]

37. And that there's no one close to him who will tell him that is horrifying. n/t

[D_Master81]

13. Everything is about winning and losing

To him and his supporters everything is nothing more than a competition or sporting event where someone wins and someone loses. I bet this idiot doesnt even realize that after VE Day WW2 wasn’t over.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

15. "bravery"? Every one of the Canadian and British soldiers on D-Day was as brave as the Americans

tRump is the last person I would take advice from about bravery.

[BeerBarrelPolka]

16. It's

It's not a competition. Just ignore trump and don't take offence.

[Nonnia Bisnez]

17. It would take an act of congress

to officially rename veterans day. Presidents can name a specific date as a holiday, but cannot declare annual recurring holidays.

[Vinca]

18. Bet he wears his purple heart (the one the veteran gave him at a rally). That's as close as he gets to combat.

[Nonnia Bisnez]

19. People are going to call it what they want to.

The third Monday in February is commonly called presidents day even though the official federal holiday is Washington's birthday.

[Prairie Gates]

20. Both of these points are pretty arguable

The Soviets arguably won the war in Europe in WWII.

To say that the US were the strongest in WWI is pretty laughable. The US wasn't really operationally involved until 1918 (Chateau-Thierry and Belleau Wood weren't until May-June 1918). Any of the other warring parties on the Western Front were arguably stronger than the Americans for the majority of the war. The Germans were already near collapse by 1918, with the Spring Offensive of that year being a success in the way the Ardennes Offensive was initially successful in WWII.

[ProfessorGAC]

61. I Buy That

The US contribution to winning WW1 was more money & materiel.
We weren't there long enough to have made a huge tactical difference. But, we were strategically important.
We would disagree about the war in Europe, though.

[Disaffected]

67. Yes, after the invasion of Russia,

about two thirds of the German army and air force were consumed on the eastern front. In fact, the Russian land and air forces were so strong at the end of the war that the allies feared they might not stop at Berlin and proceed to take over all of Europe. IIRC there was even a contingency plan drawn up that would have seen a retreat to England and eventual relaunching of a counter invasion from there and N Africa.

Of course the draft dodger wouldn't know, or care, about any of that. I wonder what Trump would have done if he had been born 15 or 20 years earlier (were bone spurs a thing in those days?).

[Scrivener7]

21. I thought he was going to call it "Suckers and Losers Day." Because that's how he has previously referred to veterans.

[malaise]

22. Because the Veterans are

Suckers and losers - he is one sick fuck

[surfered]

23. I'm sure it will involve a parade

[yardwork]

25. So veterans of all the other conflicts are ignored???!!!

What the actual eff?

(As an aside, I am so sick of the way WWII and WWI are romanticized and obsessed over by MAGATs.)

[allegorical oracle]

30. Yep -- my dad served in WWII and Korea. Tons of veterans serve in peace time, too. nt

[Blues Heron]

26. I'm renaming his birthday VD day

[magicarpet]

32. trDUMP - Oozing Syphlis Day

[Doodley]

33. Veterans of other conflicts (nearly all vets) don't get mention? Terrible idea.

[Orrex]

34. Why doesn't he just fucking die already?

[SarcasticSatyr]

36. For God's sake cholesterol . . . Get on with it!

. . . . . .

[Demovictory9]

76. ...

[jayschool2013]

38. Bananas

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[IronLionZion]

39. The Drumpf family supported Germany in those wars

and after the US defeated Germany in WW2, they changed their name to Trump and pretended to be Swedish.

[yardwork]

52. Of course they did. Of course.

Trump and most of his family are on the wrong side of literally everything.

A remarkable sweep of "wrong and evil" in every single instance. I can't think of one redeeming trait. Not one. No sense of humor. Has no pets. Is mean to his children. Has terrible taste.

[niyad]

41. This isn't from The Onion???

[Martin Eden]

44. That was my first thought, then I saw NYT in the URL

Demented Donald should be severed from reality, in a tightly controlled bubble. Let him think he is an absolute dictator, but control everything he sees and hears. It's a bit far-fetched, but his tiny hands must not hold the actual reins of power.

[JT45242]

43. the losers and suckers who didn't get daddy deferments for Vietnam -- screw them

This is a big FU to the people (mostly poor and middle class, largely people of color) who fought in Vietnam and the Gulf Wars.

What a self entitled worthless POS -- and I wonder how many post Korean veterans voted for this piece of crap?

[Unbitten]

45. Donald...

Please give us a brief summary of US involvement in WWI & WWII…

The ignorance is overwhelming, but not at all a surprise.

[Ocelot II]

51. So veterans of other wars don't get a day?

[UpInArms]

57. We won't be celebrating our veterans

Because they are just “suckers and losers”

[yorkster]

63. To listen to Trump, you'd think we had no allies.

We won this. We won that. Greatest nation on earth, blah blah blah.
We need Sister Mary Elephant and her giant scream. Make it "SHUUTUUP!!" this time. Yes, kids, Cheech and Chong reference.

[bucolic_frolic]

64. "strength, bravery, or military brilliance"

superlatives in search of metrics.

Troop numbers and casualties can be measured.

Bravery ... how do you quantify?

Military brilliance. I believe it was Nigel Hamilton's trilogy FDR at war that showed the British generals were far more experienced at warfare than American top brass.

AI ChatGPT weighs in: [British] "Field Marshal Alan Brooke’s wartime diaries, where Brooke is often blisteringly critical of American military leadership.

Brooke often viewed American generals as inexperienced, overconfident, and lacking in strategic maturity.

He believed that many of them, including Eisenhower (at first), were too deferential to political aims or Roosevelt’s vision, and not seasoned in planning complex, global operations.

Hamilton quotes Brooke expressing frustration over U.S. impatience and lack of understanding of logistical realities, especially regarding early plans for a cross-Channel invasion (which the British thought premature in 1942–43)."

But you run with it, Donnie.

[SalamanderSleeps]

65. Adolph Donald must be looking to get fragged.

New Rule: Never hire hire a Secret Service Agent to do the right thing. Ever.

[Raven123]

66. A lot of attention is given to Veterans Day from businesses, and local veterans groups

Does that mean those veterans discounts and free donuts won’t be offered?

[peggysue2]

68. Hey, I'm surprised he doesn't want to rename it . . .

Trump Day. Because it's always about HIM.

[Ping Tung]

71. War is sweet to those who haven't tasted it. Desiderius Erasmus

Or one who escaped it by paying off some quack.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

73. Were it not for the Veterans, there would be NO victories.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

74. Bone spurs day?

[struggle4progress]

75. Up next: Loudly renaming the VA "Administration for WWI and WWII combatants"

while cutting funds because WWI and WWII combatants are now rare

Maybe we should also rename 28 April "Take a hint, assholes" day (after 28 April 1945) and 28 April "We really mean it! Take a fucking hint, assholes" day (after 30 April 1945)?

BTW, Donny Demento is an ignorant nitwit: WWII ended in August 1945, not May

[choie]

80. WHO THE FUCK DOES HE THINK HE IS?

Is he trying to remake every aspect of our nation?

[LuckyLib]

83. Is there anything he won't mess with?

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