Virginia Giuffre met Jeffrey Epstein at Mar-a-Lago

[Kid Berwyn]

Reminder: Jeffrey Epstein hired a 16-year old who worked for Donald J Trump.

Unsealed documents detail alleged Epstein victim’s recruitment at Mar-a-Lago

by JOSH GERSTEIN
08/10/2019

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The roughly 2,000 pages of records released by the Manhattan-based 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals also show the same woman, Virginia Roberts Giuffre, appears to have claimed she had sex with a series of prominent men — including former politicians — at Epstein’s direction while working as a staff masseuse for the investment adviser, who eventually came under investigation in 2006 for sex trafficking over his involvement with teenage girls.

The deal drew objections and a lawsuit from some of Epstein’s victims, who alleged they were illegally kept in the dark about the agreement. Earlier this year, a federal judge agreed the victims’ rights were violated. That ruling, and a fresh indictment of Epstein in federal court in New York City last month, set in motion the resignation of Labor Secretary Alex Acosta, who was the chief federal prosecutor in south Florida and signed off on the Epstein deal.

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In deposition excerpts made public Friday, Giuffre said she was working as a spa attendant at Mar-a-Lago in 2000 when she was approached by Epstein’s longtime friend Ghislaine Maxwell about giving massages to the wealthy investor, who owned a mansion in Palm Beach not far from the Trump resort.

“Where in the spa were you when you were approached by Ghislaine Maxwell?” Maxwell’s attorney Laura Menninger asked at a May 2016 deposition.

“Just outside the locker room, sitting where the other girl who works there usually sits,” Giuffre replied. “I was reading a book on massage therapy. … She noticed I was reading the massage book. And I started to have chitchat with her just about, you know, the body and the anatomy and how I was interested in it. And she told me that she knew somebody that was looking for a traveling masseuse. ... If the guy likes you then, you know, it will work out for you. You’ll travel. You’ll make good money.”

Who knows about that — or the time when Epstein said, “No,” to Drumpf?

Jeffrey Epstein Accuser: When Donald Trump Eyed Me, Epstein Remarked ‘She’s Not for You’

by JERRY LAMBE
Law & Crime.org, Aug. 26th, 2019, 1:29 pm 305

In a harrowing report from the New York Times on Monday, sisters Maria Farmer and Annie Farmer divulged details of the earliest known reports to authorities of Jeffrey Epstein’s illicit sexual contact with young women and young girls. They accused both Epstein and his alleged madam Ghislaine Maxwell of sexually assaulting them as early as 1996, a year before actress and model Alicia Arden filed a police report claiming that Epstein groped her.

Recounting one of her first memories of life in Epstein’s orbit, Maria Farmer said she remembered one particular interaction between Epstein and President Donald Trump, during which Epstein appeared to shoot down the future president of the United States after he allegedly ogled the 25-year-old Farmer.

Farmer was an artist who moved to New York City in 1993 to pursue a career in the arts. She said she was introduced to Epstein and Maxwell after graduating from the New York Academy of Art, both of whom took an immediate interest in the young woman. Epstein quickly offered her a position acquisitioning art and managing his townhouse entrance, which meant she frequently found herself in the palatial estate.

Farmer was in Epstein’s office when she first met Donald Trump. According to the report, Trump was “eyeing” Farmer when Epstein jumped in, telling Trump “she’s not for you.” The Times said Farmer’s mother, Janice Swain, vouched for the account of the Trump-Epstein interaction, saying her daughter detailed it to her around the time it happened.

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https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/jeffrey-epstein-accuser-when-donald-trump-eyed-me-epstein-remarked-shes-not-for-you/

As Trump obeyed Epstein, we can see who called the shots in their friendship. Furthermore, the great Russian Money Laundering Business revealed their competitive nature.

Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump, and a Russian Oligarch Is Peak Sleazy Corruption

And yet they're all tied to the same Palm Beach mansion.

By Charles P. Pierce
Esquire, August 1, 2019

I don't want to alarm anyone, but the Washington Post has a report that well may be a warning that we are approaching an historical singularity in our current political moment that will swallow the entire universe and leave us with nothing but cheap red baseball hats and plastic straws, as well as stick all of us with the bill for destroying the present. It involves a mansion, a Russian, the president*, and Jeffrey Epstein, which is as complete and round a ball of sleazy and corrupt energy as can be imagined.

Let us return then to the luxurious grounds of Maison de l'Amitie in beautiful Palm Beach.

In November 2004, Trump, who was starring in NBC’s “The Apprentice” at the time, declared himself intent on winning “the finest piece of land in Florida and probably the U.S.,” an estate that had been seized as part of the bankruptcy of nursing home magnate Abe Gosman. Trump said he planned to create “the second greatest house in America, Mar-a-Lago being the first” and then resell it.

Epstein was also enraptured by the property, which Gosman had purchased in 1988 for about $12 million from Leslie Wexner, the Ohio-based retail executive who was a friend and patron of Epstein’s. In contrast to Trump, Epstein seemed interested in living at the place. Harley Riedel, an attorney for Gosman, said the previous owner had filled the mansion with pricey art and “really did have in his heart that it would be nice if someone moved in and lived there.”

The auction began with an attempt by one of Epstein’s three attorneys to knock Trump out of the bidding. Attorney Andrew Kamensky argued that Trump was not qualified because he demanded that the property have title insurance or he would not close on the sale. “What I’m telling you is that Mr. Epstein will — he will close,” Kamensky said, according a transcript obtained by The Post.

Trump wasn’t in Palm Beach — his own attorney, Raymond Royce, was in the courtroom. But Trump was on the phone, and now he chimed in to defend himself. Riedel’s first notice that Trump might personally take part in the proceedings came when his voice boomed from the speakerphone. “I was sort of shocked,” the lawyer said. Judge Steven Friedman rejected Epstein’s objection. The bidding began with Epstein’s offer of $37.25 million, but he dropped out after his bid of $38.6 million was topped.

It is unclear whether Trump and Epstein were in contact after the house sale. That month, Trump left two messages for Epstein at his home in Palm Beach, according to records obtained by Vice News — the last known interaction between the two men.

OK, so two unremitting sleazeballs bidding over a piece of prime seafront property in Palm Beach is almost perfectly EpTrumpian. But the singularity is achieved in the story just a few lines later.

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https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a28580523/jeffrey-epstein-donald-trump-palm-beach-mansion-russian-oligarch/

What people do with money is sickening. So sickening .

[sop]

1. Mar-a-Lago is essentially a brothel.

[Kid Berwyn]

6. Who would archive videotape there?

Lots of material to track. And the binders.

The Ghost of Roy Cohn

BY TERRY MELANSON · AUGUST 24, 2014

EXCERPT...

In an interview with former NYPD detective James Rothstein, this author discovered that such operations do exist and go far back into America’s secret history. Rothstein is no conspiracy theorist. He is a legend in American law enforcement and speaks from experience. Furthermore, he gave me two notable examples from his time as a detective. Rothstein had an opportunity to have a sit-down with infamous McCarthy committee counsel Roy Cohn. During this sit-down, Cohn admitted to Rothstein that he was part of a rather elaborate sexual blackmail operation that compromised politicians with child prostitutes (Rothstein, no pagination). Cohn told Rothstein that this operation was being carried out as part of the anticommunist crusade of the time (no pagination).

Rothstein also had an opportunity to speak to infamous Watergate burglar Frank Sturgis. During this conversation, Sturgis revealed one of the reasons for breaking into the Watergate. According to Sturgis, there was a “Pedophile Book” hidden away at the Democratic National Committee headquarters (no pagination). The book was supposed to have a list of pedophiles on the American political scene (no pagination). One can only imagine the power G. Gordon Liddy would have held over the government if he had such a book in his possession.

I asked Rothstein if Roy Cohn was a real anticommunist or just using the fear of communism to justify his sex ring. It seemed like a fair question. After all, Cohn had argued against homosexuals being schoolteachers when he himself was a homosexual. Perhaps Cohn’s hypocrisy extended to his anticommunism. Rothstein made it clear that Cohn was a genuine anticommunist (no pagination). Anticommunist sentiments aside, evidence suggests that the sex ring operation started by Cohn was used for more than fighting the threat of domestic communists. Fugitive ex-CIA officer Frank Terpil has claimed that sexual blackmailing operations directed by the CIA were intensive in Washington during the Watergate era (DeCamp 179). Terpil also asserts that his former partner, Ed Wilson, was coordinating one of these sexual blackmail operations (179). In a letter to author Jim Hougan, Terpil revealed Wilson’s modus operandi:

“Historically, one of Wilson’s Agency jobs was to subvert members of both houses [of Congress] by any means necessary…. Certain people could be easily coerced by living out their sexual fantasies in the flesh…. A remembrance of these occasions [was] permanently recorded via selected cameras…. The technicians in charge of filming… were TSD [Technical Services Division of the CIA]. The unwitting porno stars advanced in their political careers, some of [whom] may still be in office.” (Qtd. in DeCamp 179)

According to John DeCamp, a former Nebraska Senator and Vietnam War hero, Wilson’s operation was merely a continuation of the one set up by Cohn (179). When I asked James Rothstein if Palfrey’s outfit was a continuation of the sexual blackmail rings that began with Cohn, he answered in the affirmative (Rothstein, pagination). The NYPD veteran made it clear that Palfrey’s outfit could not exist in Washington unless it was a tool for the power elite and sinister factions of the intelligence community (no pagination). Somewhere in a Queens cemetery, the corpse of a high-powered attorney is smiling in his grave.

SOURCE:

Internet Archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20170214044157/https://www.conspiracyarchive.com/2014/08/24/the-ghost-of-roy-cohn/

Ol’ busted: https://www.conspiracyarchive.com/2014/08/24/the-ghost-of-roy-cohn/

Who remembers Pamela Jean Martin and Associates? Besides the pampered former Sen. David Vitter (R-LA).

[moondust]

7. It runs in the family.

Donald Trump's grandfather ran Canadian brothel during gold rush, author says

[MurrayDelph]

10. Yep

Sometimes Trump is the pimp, sometimes he's the product.

[Walleye]

2. Trump dumped Epstein as a friend over a money dispute, not over sex trafficking

Magas have dutifully revised that bit of accurate history.

[Kid Berwyn]

11. Absolutely 1984

From Orwell Today:

The day-to-day falsification of the past, carried out by the Ministry of Truth, is as necessary to the stability of the regime as the work of repression and espionage carried out by the Ministry of Love. The mutability of the past is the central tenet of Ingsoc. Past events, it is argued have no objective existence, but survive only in written records and human memories. The past is whatever the records and the memories agree upon. And since the Party is in full control of all records and in equally full control of the minds of its members, it follows that the past is whatever the Party chooses to make it. As often happens, the same event has to be altered out of recognition several times in the course of a year. At all times the Party is in possession of absolute truth. To make sure that all written records agree with the orthodoxy of the moment is merely a mechanical act.

The alteration of the past is necessary for two reasons. To be able to learn from the past meant having a fairly accurate idea of what had happened in the past. One reason is that the Party member, like the proletarian, tolerates present-day conditions partly because he has no standards of comparison. He must be cut off from the past, just as he must be cut off from foreign countries, because it is necessary for him to believe that he is better off than his ancestors and that the average level of material comfort is constantly rising.

But by far the more important reason for the re adjustment of the past is the need to safeguard the infallibility of the Party. It is not merely that speeches, statistics, and records of every kind must be constantly brought up to date in order to show that the predictions of the Party were in all cases right. It is also that no change in doctrine or in political alignment can ever be admitted. For to change one's mind, or even one's policy, is a confession of weakness.

Source: https://www.orwelltoday.com/past.shtml

Thank you for grokking, Walleye: The truth matters for democratic government as lies matter for tyrannical government.

[Walleye]

12. Orwell would have a field day with their "flood the zone"technique now

[Kid Berwyn]

21. Absolutely. Who even heard Trump hired Giuffre when she died?

Trump has been busy destroying the Constitution and democracy, but really. An honest news media would mention the connection, for context. A media with integrity would do it for history.

[sop]

22. Trump "hires" a 16-year-old girl to work as a "spa attendant" at Mar-a-Lago giving massages to wealthy guests?

There's something seriously wrong with this. According to state regulations you need to be at least 18 years old to work as a "spa attendant" in Florida. Then she's approached at Mar-a-Lago by Maxwell to be pimped out by Epstein? What else haven't we been told?

[Baitball Blogger]

3. Gross. In that first picture look where Maxwell has her hands.

[chowder66]

4. I'm not sure what you are seeing but I see a person leaning against a door frame with fingers slightly hooked.

There are plenty of reasons to be disgusted with her but just because her hands rest in front of her crotch area doesn't mean anything lewd is happening with that position.

If anything some people could see it as being modest by covering the area.

[Walleye]

14. It creeps me out to see Trump touch anybody, especially women

[chowder66]

16. I'm not sure if you meant to reply to me.

I was referring to the picture of Ghislaine leaning against the door frame next to Virginia and Prince Andrew.

I completely agree with you. He's a proven predator as well.

[Walleye]

17. No, sorry you're right. I meant to answer somebody else

[Kid Berwyn]

13. "I wish her well."

Just before he died, Jeffrey Epstein told NYT he introduced first couplings.



Column:

Trump’s Ghislaine Maxwell shout-out hit the reset button on his exploitative history with women

Excerpt...

But the president couldn’t muster anything that suggested he disapproves of sexually abusing children. Instead, he sent his regards to Maxwell. Best wishes to Ghislaine, who has pleaded not guilty, as she stews in jail.

Trump, as he helpfully reminded the briefing room, was Epstein’s and Maxwell’s neighbor in Palm Beach. After Epstein was first convicted, of soliciting a child for prostitution, the president claimed that their friendship had been over for years. But Trump once called Epstein a “terrific guy,” and as for Maxwell, “I just wish her well, frankly,” Trump said Tuesday.

“I wish her well,” he repeated.

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What do Stone (convicted felon), Flynn (pleaded guilty to a felony) and Manafort (convicted felon) have in common? They’re all people Trump has had a powerful interest in silencing.

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As early as the 1980s, Trump and Epstein “swam in the same social pool,” as the Washington Post put it. Epstein long bragged that he introduced Trump to his current wife, Melania.

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https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-07-24/jeffrey-epstein-ghislaine-maxwell-donald-trump

Who knew they were meant for each other, besides Putin?

[Walleye]

15. Now I'm wondering if Epstein was owned and controlled by Putin

It was a very determined case of suicide

[Kid Berwyn]

18. They ran in the same circles, ask ex-AG Bill Barr

It sure seems like a small world when GOP Bill Barr’s dad, a former OSS officer, happened to be the guy who hired Jeffrey Epstein the college dropout to teach at an elite Manhattan prep school.

The ‘Epstein-Barr’ Problem of New York City’s Dalton School

JERRY LAMBE
July 13th, 2019, 10:50 am

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Epstein, who was charged last week by federal authorities in the Southern District of New York with sex trafficking with sex-trafficking and conspiracy to commit sex-trafficking, was a 20 year old college drop-out when he was hired to teach at Dalton by the school’s headmaster Donald Barr in the mid 1970’s. Donald Barr was the father of current United States Attorney General William Barr, who is currently overseeing Epstein’s prosecution.

According to at least one former student, Dalton alums have long joked about Barr’s hiring of Epstein..

“The joke has been [that] this is the Epstein-Barr problem at Dalton, said Harry Segal, a 1974 graduate who is now a senior lecturer at Cornell University and Weill Cornell Medical College, in an interview with the Huffington Post. Epstein-Barr is a type of herpes virus best known as the cause of infectious mononucleosis.

Scott Spizer, who graduated in 1976, said that Epstein was most remembered for his “persistent attention” on teenage girls in the hallways, recalled a night when the young educator showed up at a party where Dalton students were drinking.

“I can remember thinking at the time, ‘This is wrong,’” Spizer said in an interview with the New York Times.

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https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/the-epstein-barr-problem-of-new-york-citys-dalton-school/

The younger Barr paid a visit to Epstein just days before his “suicide.”

Seems like an odd time to suicide, before being found guilty.

[Walleye]

19. Thanks for reminding me. I had forgotten about that. What a tangled web they weave.

I’m more certain than not that he was killed to silence him.

[malaise]

5. And she too

Is dead by suicide - hmmmmmm!

[H2O Man]

8. Right.

That got my ears perking up. That type of thing is always suspicious. At the same time, I know how much damage that these adult men did to kids. I was impressed with how brave she was as an adult, because you could see how much pain she was in. Her death is upsetting.

[malaise]

9. They use and abuse these teenagers

Truly sad

[Kid Berwyn]

20. Epstein Tapes: "I Was Donald Trump's Closest Friend"

"The moral compass just does not exist." -- Jeffrey Epstein in another quote from taped conversations with Michael Wolff.

Great article in PDF form:

Listen To The Jeffrey Epstein Tapes: ‘I Was Donald Trump’s Closest Friend’

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU08/20250227/117951/HHRG-119-JU08-20250227-SD006-U6.pdf

Of course, history shows Donald Trump's new closest friend is Vladimir Putin. Per Sen. Bernie Sanders:

https://www.sanders.senate.gov/press-releases/news-sanders-statement-meet-donald-trumps-new-best-friend-vladimir-putin/