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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHe disqualified himself today
by saying that he doesn't know if he has to uphold the constitution of the United States. That's the headline. If he doesn't know that, that means he doesn't feel he has to do it. Our democracy is in danger. And if ANYONE ELSE said that they would be out.
I know there's a lot of stupidity crammed into one interview, such as "eleven year old baby girls" and other babbling nonsense, but let's not get distracted.
Media, why isn't this the banner headline? He babbles nonsense every day, but this is the constitution we are talking about and he won't say he'll uphold it. WAKE UP!! Or are you still too busy beating yourselves up over not being hard enough on Joe Biden?
SheltieLover
(81,228 posts)senseandsensibility
(25,168 posts)but with this congress? They are absolutely shameless in their groveling to anything trump says or does and I don't think we've seen the bottom yet.
SheltieLover
(81,228 posts)Sickening.
Just putting the thought out there to get it churning about in the ether.
bronxiteforever
(11,212 posts)Thanks for that SheltieLover!
alterfurz
(2,682 posts)
Trueblue1968
(19,281 posts)lastlib
(28,398 posts)...but that's me......
AncientOfDays
(266 posts).... the Mussolini
lastlib
(28,398 posts)wnylib
(26,226 posts)Trueblue1968
(19,281 posts)Mme. Defarge
(9,032 posts)oldtime dfl_er
(7,177 posts)Should it have an exclamation point? I think so, but just checking.
Mme. Defarge
(9,032 posts)oldtime dfl_er
(7,177 posts)I already do SEE YOU AT THE BARRICADES tees, but this gives me new inspiration. Thanks!
bdamomma
(69,587 posts)anyone???????
SheltieLover
(81,228 posts)AllaN01Bear
(29,673 posts)SheltieLover
(81,228 posts)Get it in people's heads that this is not ok. Not even close!
This ruskie operative has got to go!
AdamGG
(1,886 posts)To take the House and get Senate pickups in Maine, NC and two others and then impeachment could move forward, though it would be tough to get enough Senators on board.
SheltieLover
(81,228 posts)AdamGG
(1,886 posts)8 US Senators representing less than half the population of Los Angeles County. But, that's not going to change any time soon. We'd need a supermajority in the Senate and 2/3 of the state legislatures to pass an amendment.
We should have pushed through some things when we had a supermajority during Obama's first year, though it probably would have taken more than a year to get DC & Puerto Rico statehood through.
SheltieLover
(81,228 posts)pansypoo53219
(23,099 posts)andym
(6,068 posts)Also on CNN front page atm.
What's disqualifying is that he said he doesn't know what the Constitution says or requires, so that would render his oath of office meaningless.
senseandsensibility
(25,168 posts)Last edited Sun May 4, 2025, 03:57 PM - Edit history (1)
since in the past, their headlines regarding trump have been abysmal. But their broadcast does not lead with the story, and neither does MSNBC. NBC's homepage does not it displayed as their main headline about the interview either.
Amaryllis
(11,343 posts)relayerbob
(7,437 posts)Frasier Balzov
(5,079 posts)his ass out, it's big enough too!!!!
FalloutShelter
(14,533 posts)Hed be gone.
PERIOD.
FULL STOP.
It took them three weeks to get rid of Joe.
Want to boycott something? Boycott the MSM.
I dont need to have this explained to me day in and day out by well meaning celebrity journalists.
I need them to hammer him until he is gone. Just like they did to Joe.
JMHO
SheltieLover
(81,228 posts)Blue Owl
(59,318 posts)The M$M wants to help Dump carry out his nefarious plan. Why? Because thats what their billionaire owners want.
FalloutShelter
(14,533 posts)slightlv
(7,848 posts)billionaire owners... except, there are only a few of them. Which is what Bush allowed by consolidating all the media and ruling that one billionaire can own any number of different types of media outlets. What used to be kept separate (for the most part) all of a sudden became one big orgasmic blob for these guys. They can own print, digital, and video all at the same time, and make sure that what they want communicated gets told across the entire spectrum.
trump is absolutely worse than GW ever could have been, but that really isn't saying much. GW just truly enabled trump.
Buckeyeblue
(6,388 posts)I think MSM would have to take on certain Republicans in Congress. And even then, they (Republicans in Congress) don't have to do anything. There is no enforcement mechanism that the people have right now.
We could take to the streets
We could have a national strike
I'm not sure any of that would work. You'd have to have numbers that were through the roof to cause any change. 30-33% are always going to be with Trump. Probably another 20-25 % pay zero attention to current events. That leaves us with 40-45%. But many of those people are physically capable of protesting or can't risk losing their jobs.
AllaN01Bear
(29,673 posts)FalloutShelter
(14,533 posts)lostnfound
(17,558 posts)that they were NOT going to stop until he was OUT.
FalloutShelter
(14,533 posts)dchill
(42,660 posts)FalloutShelter
(14,533 posts)Not a pretty picture.
bdamomma
(69,587 posts)is the way to go!!!!!!!!!
FalloutShelter
(14,533 posts)Who many years ago ( eighties?) said something that I will never forget.
He said that the death of this democracy will be because of racism and the death of the free press.
He was not wrong.
bdamomma
(69,587 posts)but Independent media is pushing hard to like, share and subscribe. I'm contributing.
MayReasonRule
(4,126 posts)He qualifies to be flushed.
Let's get it on.
lastlib
(28,398 posts)I would almost qualify him to be Mussolini'ed......The basturd is simply horrendous as both a politician and human being (a term to be construed very loosely in his case....).
ShazzieB
(22,716 posts)In other words, I agree with you!
As for the Mussoloni part, I don't wish death on anyone lightly, but considering his capacity (and willingness) to harm millions of people in many, many different ways, I can't help feeling that the world would be a better, safer place without him.
bdamomma
(69,587 posts)be a lot safer, the world would be too.
MayReasonRule
(4,126 posts)Blue Owl
(59,318 posts)mn9driver
(4,850 posts)Not with this Congress. MAGA is already putting together a 2026 campaign based on electing only MAGA, to prevent impeachments in the second half of his term.
senseandsensibility
(25,168 posts)I want the corporate media to do their job.
TBF
(36,871 posts)they are never going to do anything to benefit the rest of us.
senseandsensibility
(25,168 posts)because I think their failure is at the heart of the crisis we are facing.
TBF
(36,871 posts)they are new, but at least they are fighting. Thank you for all you are doing!
senseandsensibility
(25,168 posts)mn9driver
(4,850 posts)The framing of that suggests that its just a matter of opinion, instead of the five-alarm fire that it is. Im not thinking the MSM is on our side.
markie
(24,026 posts)until Nov.2026.... don't know the answer, but I do know Nov. 2026 is too late
MuirHero
(148 posts)bdamomma
(69,587 posts)the SF convict has to go.
kelly1mm
(5,756 posts)TBF
(36,871 posts)but that is not what the billionaires care about. They care about their tax breaks. And the religious zealots care about turning the country into what they want. They've banded together to make this country hell on earth.
PatSeg
(53,245 posts)to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States". Obviously, the words meant absolutely nothing to him.
Being sworn in as President of the United States is quite an extraordinary event in one's life. You'd think the words would stick.
senseandsensibility
(25,168 posts)Did Welker ask him that in a follow up? I can't bear to listen to him so I have only seen short clips of the interview. But that is the obvious follow up from a journalist to a statement like that.
lastlib
(28,398 posts)Welker.....journalist.....do those two words belong in the same sentence?
PatSeg
(53,245 posts)That said, I've never cared much for Welker as an interviewer. I find her to be very dull and unimpressive. I may watch it later however.
Edit to add:
That said, any reputable journalist would certainly address that ridiculous comment. Trump has always gotten away with such crap.
lastlib
(28,398 posts)is to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." His own lawyers have said in court filings that it does not include "support" for the Constitution. (Trump v. Colorado)
So there is that.
MuirHero
(148 posts)Norrrm
(5,260 posts)PatSeg
(53,245 posts)and I also remember wondering how you can "preserve, protect, and defend", but not "support" the constitution. Being a lawyer for Trump must be one of the worst jobs in the world.
bdamomma
(69,587 posts)know te meaning of the Constitution it means nothing to him. He is nothing but an empty shell.
PatSeg
(53,245 posts)His description of it was just some mindless word salad. The truth is he knows pretty much nothing about anything, yet he keeps on talking.
Deuxcents
(27,279 posts)He doesnt know what the words meant? It was the second time he pledged the oath and he needs his lawyers and SC to interpret them?
Attilatheblond
(9,051 posts)So far, loopholes are working pretty well for him.
Grim Chieftain
(1,871 posts)This greasy orange bastard is destroying our country! Do something!!!!
Justice Brandeis
(405 posts)He disqualified himself 10 years ago with his rant about Mexican immigrants being drug dealers and rapists.
senseandsensibility
(25,168 posts)SamKnause
(14,925 posts)He adds to the list everyday.
The people who have the power to stop him don't give a shit.
His cult administration do not believe in democracy.
They are deliberately trying to destroy democracy.
There is no one to stop him.
That is why we are in this mess !!!!!!!!!!!!
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)I think the perfect title for a book about the past 45+ years would be:
WHILE THE NATION SLEPT..........
lastlib
(28,398 posts)What he has done to damage this nation would fill several volumes of an encyclopedia. And he keeps digging.....
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)requires the kind of due process offered to citizens, sort of "Well FDR implemented Japanese internment camps in an "emergency" that didn't follow the Constitution."
Sadly, I suspect he might prevail in that argument using crud about immigrant invasions, and similar BS.
IbogaProject
(5,980 posts)Some people ate saying it is because he is a lifelong lier others are saying the corrupt media is conspiring to cover up his senility maybe both are involved.
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surfered
(13,790 posts)lastlib
(28,398 posts)So it's pretty much like not taking an oath at all.
oregonjen
(3,647 posts)mopinko
(73,796 posts)claudette
(5,455 posts)Which clearly states thats his job #1
kkmarie
(344 posts)If that's why Krasnov didn't place his hand on the Bible when he took the oath?
You know him being the fine Christian he is
slightlv
(7,848 posts)there was some talk that he didn't use a bible, but I can't remember the context or what he otherwise used. Let me guess... it was Mein Kampf, right? /snark
kkmarie
(344 posts)Marcuse
(9,052 posts)
Orrex
(67,223 posts)If Obama had said it, he'd have been shot outright.
Martin Eden
(15,723 posts)And crimes.
Deuxcents
(27,279 posts)And are fully understanding the job title theyre seeking, its duties and responsibilities. One debate set aside for the voters to decide their qualifications
Meowmee
(9,212 posts)Last edited Sun May 4, 2025, 09:41 PM - Edit history (1)
I wouldn't count on most of them for anything. They're a large part of how he got into power in the first place.
kimbutgar
(27,362 posts)And want to protect the repuke rule. And its typical of the IOKIYAR syndrome with our MSM! He could shoot an innocent person on the White House lawn and hed say they are an undocumented immigrant and the media would twist themselves into a pretzel defending him! They like the insanity of him and love to report breathlessly of his evil insane antics.
IOKIYAR = Its ok if you are a repuke.
AllaN01Bear
(29,673 posts)bucolic_frolic
(55,431 posts)so not unexpected.
malaise
(296,886 posts)His lawyers😀😀
senseandsensibility
(25,168 posts)I think he used it about due process as well. "Journalists" seem to be afraid to call him out on it so he'll keep doing it I guess.
drray23
(8,806 posts)is not to try to go after him given the difficulties to impeach and hold him accountable. Instead, judges should start going hard after lawyers or anybody in his administration who are enabling Trump. and not just federal judges, also state judges.
State Attorney generals need to find way to hold these guys accountable using state laws. I am sure that given all that is being reported, some of these DOGE guys for example broke state laws.
If his enablers start being held accountable, Trump will be left with nobody to carry out his agenda and it will pewter out.
But they must still go after him
Doodley
(11,985 posts)He's been doing a media tour since the 100 days, lying, threatening, and shocking us with stupidity, but his poll numbers have improved.
senseandsensibility
(25,168 posts)with non FAUX journalists, and as malaise pointed out above, one of them is "ask my lawyers" and another is "I don't know". He's just not able to speak in depth about anything, but as you say he does seem to have a strategy for agreeing to "unfriendly" interviews in the first place.
NewHendoLib
(61,875 posts)For the umpteenth time.
senseandsensibility
(25,168 posts)I really do. However, we cannot become numb to this. If the corporate media won't call him out in the terms called for by the seriousness of the situation, and if we are not hearing a strong enough message from Dem leadership, it is up to us. I realize that posting on DU is not going to get rid of trump. But our voices still matter. I think we should speak out wherever and whenever we can.
NewHendoLib
(61,875 posts)My response to you wasn't clear - sorry!
My feeling is we have no media right now. They are all cowering - which is unforgivable.
senseandsensibility
(25,168 posts)Akakoji
(533 posts)If anyone else had depicted themselves as the Pope, right after the current one had died, they'd be disqualified. And most likely no longer with us. Biden should have stayed out of the race. That would have prevented Harris from ever winning. And we'd have both a Democratic President, House, and maybe even a Senate.
SidneyR
(216 posts)Nothing surprising here. Most of the history of the US has been of a corrupt fake democracy, crooked from day one.
Amaryllis
(11,343 posts)that if we have not been online we can pick up the thread of what happpened.
Pris
(163 posts)He is weak and he is greedy.
choie
(6,948 posts)Hes an insurrectionist convicted felon. Do we really think his not understanding what the constitution says is going to make a difference?
FarPoint
(14,875 posts)We need to now, push him off that very ledge about not following the US Constitution....Add all the other issues like stolen election...
relayerbob
(7,437 posts)They don't care, The House won't impeach, and even if they did, the Senate won't convict. And, let's face it, even if they did, he wouldn't leave
relayerbob
(7,437 posts)It is 100% Trump, and always has been
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red dog 1
(33,261 posts)(Is he dead yet?)
Grammy23
(6,124 posts)About truck drivers who cant speak English? What did he think he was saying when he took the oath of office of the President of the US twice?
peter500
(7 posts)Spot-on, and I didn't need 250 pencils to wright this. View Democracy's Demise:
?si=4fKNOQywecEj5I6Sbdamomma
(69,587 posts)ignorance are we going to take from this SF????? We all know he uses the Constitution as toilet paper. He is a bully let's push back. Good Trouble.
Mr.Bee
(1,848 posts)The presidential oath of office, found in Article II, Section 1, Clause 8 of the Constitution, includes the words
"preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States".
This oath is taken before entering office and is a core part of the President's responsibilities.
Stupid, Stupid, man!
bdamomma
(69,587 posts)"preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States".
This to him is "preserve, protect and defend" the dictator of the Fascist United States.
Now he wants a military parade in June, and his birthday also coincides with Flag Day. The Flag means nothing to him. Narcissist POS.
PATRICK
(12,407 posts)He wants all the power, zero responsibility.
marble falls
(72,131 posts)Brainfodder
(7,781 posts)creeksneakers2
(8,018 posts)Before God and every citizen of the United States.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/01/20/donald-trump-president-oath-video/77841124007/
LetMyPeopleVote
(180,658 posts)
hadEnuf
(3,636 posts)He doesn't have the mental capacity to understand the job of POTUS.
He is an active danger to the country.
moondust
(21,310 posts)A lifetime of serving himself does not qualify him to serve the public.
Karasu
(2,030 posts)immediate cause for invoking the 25th.
Ilsa
(64,431 posts)Okay, I don't know if it is Step 4. But assassinations (trying to kill Pelosi, Pence, etc) and interfering in the business of Congress are part of a documented plan by neo-nazis, white nationalists, Klansmen, etc for their revolution.
Skittles
(172,170 posts)YET HERE WE ARE
lees1975
(7,097 posts)Nothing has been done about any of them, so why should anyone take it seriously?
RockRaven
(19,555 posts)Maru Kitteh
(31,869 posts)DallasNE
(8,018 posts)"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
Preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States...What does he think "defend" means?
calimary
(90,316 posts)How low will we sink before this is over?
whopis01
(3,921 posts)The presidential oath of office reads
will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution
And that is Trumps out. He has no ability to defend the Constitution.
In all seriousness I wouldnt be the least surprised if his lawyers and some conservative judges dont point that out. The oath for Congress reads differently.
I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic
No mention of abilities in it.
Jit423
(1,568 posts)justsomeguy01
(48 posts).. will describe the constitution as "just a goddamned piece of paper", it will largely be ignored, and 24 years later be nearly forgotten.
"Stop throwing the Constitution in my face. Its just a g-damned piece of paper! George W. Bush
Gordcanuck
(193 posts)depose.
Heftylefty
(38 posts)Thomas Jefferson said, Ignorance of the law is no excuse in any country. If it were, the laws would lose their effect, because it can always be pretended.