We need a constitutional amendment

[Mountainguy]

to preclude presidential pardons for anyone who serves (officially or unofficially) in federal government.

[Disaffected]

1. "...to preclude presidential pardons for anyone..."

is even better, thank you.

[kelly1mm]

2. Like Dr. Fauci? Gen. Miley, the members of the Jan 6 House committee? nt

[Mountainguy]

5. Yup

Everyone.

Those people didn't do anything, and if charges were brought they would fail in the judiciary.

It is needed to prevent what's happening now, where people in the administration are breaking the law without care, expecting to be pardoned in the end.

[Midwestern Democrat]

8. The Jan 6 House Committee pardons were overkill - their activities were pretty clearly protected by the Speech and

Debate Clause, which is why Adam Schiff flat out stated both in advance and afterward that he didn't want a pardon.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

3. You do understand how difficult it actually is

to get an Amendment passed, right?

[Mountainguy]

6. I do

But who is going to publicly announce that they are in favor of government corruption?

[madville]

4. We need several

Terms limits for Congress and Judges (there are still Reagan judges on the bench). 40-50 years in power is ridiculous.

Limited presidential age to 65 or below when elected.

Limit pardons to commutation of sentences after conviction, the conviction still stands though.

[Trust_Reality]

7. We definitely need to limit pardon power.

Trump pardons criminals to acquire team members and grateful/loyal followers.

[jmowreader]

9. It would be easier to sell this amendment:

"No person who has not previously been elected to the United States House of Representatives, the United States Senate, a governorship of one of the United States, or served as Vice-President of the United States shall be elected President of the United States."

The presidents in my lifetime, except for Trump, and how they would have fit into this:

John F. Kennedy: served in both Houses of Congress
LBJ: both houses
Nixon: served in the Senate
Ford: served in the House
Carter: governor of Georgia
Reagan: governor of California
Bush 41: served in the House
Clinton: governor of Arkansas
Bush 43: governor of Texas
Obama: served in the Senate
Biden: served in the Senate

[Mountainguy]

11. Would have precluded Eisenhower.

And given the terrible people who find house seats, not sure what good it does.

Restricting or eliminating pardon power solves a lot.

[jmowreader]

18. They could have done this with Eisenhower...

“We find that the office of Supreme Allied Commander of the Allied Expeditionary Forces in Europe has granted General Eisenhower experience equivalent to that of a governor, hence he is eligible to the office of President.”

[elocs]

10. Yes, and if wishes were horses, beggars would ride. n/t

[Mountainguy]

12. Thanks for your contribution

[Wounded Bear]

13. We need several, but I don't think that is one of them...

[Mountainguy]

14. It's the one we need most

We currently have a system that allows crime boss to block prosecution of his thugs preemptively and the only protection is the honor system.

[kentuck]

15. Is it legal for a convicted felon to offer a pardon to anyone?

Or, since he won the presidency, it doesn't matter if he is a convicted felon?

[Mountainguy]

16. It doesnt matter

Pardon power literally makes him and anyone he chooses to be above the law.

[MineralMan]

17. No. What We Need Is for Everyone to Freaking Vote for Democrats

Anyone who says that a constitutional amendment is the answer has never read the Constitution closely enough to understand it. If they had, they'd know that there is no chance of any constitutional amendment being passed and ratified right now.

So, knock off the nonsense and get people out to vote for Democrats in every election.
That is the only path to recovery.

[Mountainguy]

19. Why dont you get right on that?

[MineralMan]

20. I've been doing that since 1960.

I'm 80 years old now. I can do less of it now, so I'll turn that job over to you.