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womanofthehills

(10,998 posts)
Mon May 5, 2025, 04:29 PM May 2025

NYT -Netanyahu Warns of 'Intensive' Escalation in Gaza

New York Times:

“Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel declared on Monday that his country is “on the eve of a forceful entry to Gaza” after his security cabinet approved a new plan for tens of thousands of additional soldiers to seize and hold territory in the embattled enclave and relocate Palestinians to the south.

In video posted to social media as military reservists across Israel began receiving notices of their call-up, Mr. Netanyahu said that the country’s top military officials had recommended what he called an “intensive” escalation of the 18-month war.

“It’s time to launch the concluding moves,” Mr. Netanyahu said the military officials told him, adding that the new campaign would help bring home the hostages still being held in Gaza. The prime minister said he believes “we are not done. We are before the finish line.”

The escalation followed more than two months in which Israel continued to blockade and bombard the Gaza Strip as cease-fire talks to free the remaining hostages ground to a near standstill. Israel has barred any humanitarian aid to Gaza in an effort to press Hamas to surrender, leading aid groups to denounce mounting deprivation among Palestinians there.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/05/world/europe/israel-buildup-soldiers-hamas-gaza.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

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NYT -Netanyahu Warns of 'Intensive' Escalation in Gaza (Original Post) womanofthehills May 2025 OP
Good gravy, is there anything left to blow up? Wounded Bear May 2025 #1
Ethnic cleansing. Doubly displaced. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #3
Sure! They haven't even killed 10% of the civilians there yet... regnaD kciN May 2025 #6
The people Bettie May 2025 #12
Hamas should surrender. tritsofme May 2025 #2
Sure, but if Israel does this then it is on them. Eko May 2025 #13
"It's time to launch the concluding moves" J_William_Ryan May 2025 #4
Anyone with eyes could see this was the end goal. Pisces May 2025 #5
Good God. This is going to be horrible. Yes this was always the end goal. underpants May 2025 #32
Well, who's going to stop him? dchill May 2025 #7
Concluding moves? That seems like a solution that has a ring of finality about it. Hassin Bin Sober May 2025 #8
I have not seen *one* Mossfern May 2025 #9
I have seen far too many. nt Celerity May 2025 #10
Supporting Netanyahu? Mossfern May 2025 #11
DU search is you friend. Celerity May 2025 #14
You should try it sometime. Beastly Boy May 2025 #16
I can't search for something that doesn't exist. Mossfern May 2025 #17
you made the original assertion, not me Celerity May 2025 #18
I said that there are no posts on DU supporting Netanyahu Mossfern May 2025 #19
They exist and you can find them. Celerity May 2025 #20
This is getting tiresome. Mossfern May 2025 #21
I will not be baited into breaking DU TOS, which is what you are trying to do by telling me to post direct links Celerity May 2025 #22
What nonsense. MarineCombatEngineer May 2025 #29
That is sheer sophistry. Posting link to a poster's post calls them out, whether you type their name or not. Celerity May 2025 #36
Well, if that were true, MarineCombatEngineer May 2025 #38
More sophistry. You're wilfully conflating innocuous postings of links to another DU post (OP or reply) to the posting Celerity May 2025 #39
LOL. MarineCombatEngineer May 2025 #27
So, IOW, MarineCombatEngineer May 2025 #26
Posting direct links to those posts Bettie May 2025 #23
I wasn't my aim to get anyone in trouble. Mossfern May 2025 #28
Providing links to others posts without naming the DU'er is not a callout, MarineCombatEngineer May 2025 #30
I've seen posts removed before that only contain links. Violet_Crumble May 2025 #42
Just a point of clarification ..... Mossfern May 2025 #51
I didn't get that from their post at all. underpants May 2025 #31
I did think about it before I posted Mossfern May 2025 #33
Do you react the same to posts claiming DUers support Hamas? Violet_Crumble May 2025 #40
I've seen plenty of people post "FAFO" and words to that effect. They are ghouls and I don't engage with them. Hassin Bin Sober May 2025 #48
I have seen Duers supporing Palestinians Mossfern May 2025 #50
Yeah sure you have lmao Sewa May 2025 #52
Thank you Mossfern May 2025 #53
Can we please rid the world of these evil war mongering psychos? Like now? Initech May 2025 #15
I don't have a link at the tip of my fingers, but believe if/when this war ends, allegorical oracle May 2025 #24
Trump and Bibi both need to see the inside of prison cells. For like ever. Initech May 2025 #25
I expect that he has another Bettie May 2025 #43
That pendulum bdamomma May 2025 #46
Too bad that people refused to support the woman mcar May 2025 #34
Do you mean these people? "Pro-Palestinian Activists Gave Trump a Boost. They Have No Regrets." Behind the Aegis May 2025 #35
Yep. They provided the fuel for Musk's advertising fire mcar May 2025 #37
Why do you think Nutty would listen to the US? Violet_Crumble May 2025 #41
The US arms Israel to the teeth iemanja May 2025 #44
Yes, that's a constant, no matter which administration it is... Violet_Crumble May 2025 #47
Yes, especially if Harris continued the Biden policy. iemanja May 2025 #49
Bastards bdamomma May 2025 #45

J_William_Ryan

(3,534 posts)
4. "It's time to launch the concluding moves"
Mon May 5, 2025, 04:34 PM
May 2025

Like Trump, Netanyahu is at liberty to commit his crimes with impunity.

Like Trump, Netanyahu commits his crimes the consequence of the fear, ignorance, and stupidity of the voters.

underpants

(196,874 posts)
32. Good God. This is going to be horrible. Yes this was always the end goal.
Mon May 5, 2025, 06:54 PM
May 2025

They are forcing all of them to the Egyptian border to either try to push them over …or….as I fear, pin them in.

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,474 posts)
8. Concluding moves? That seems like a solution that has a ring of finality about it.
Mon May 5, 2025, 04:39 PM
May 2025

I hope the people who cheerlead this fucking fascist hang their heads in shame until the day they die. We know who you are.

Mossfern

(4,735 posts)
9. I have not seen *one*
Mon May 5, 2025, 04:42 PM
May 2025

person on DU supporting Netanyahu.
Not one.

Please go easy on the hyperbole or present information to support your assertions.

Mossfern

(4,735 posts)
17. I can't search for something that doesn't exist.
Mon May 5, 2025, 05:25 PM
May 2025

I do have to make dinner.
Since you are the person to make the assertion, the onus is on you to prove your point, not mine.

Mossfern

(4,735 posts)
19. I said that there are no posts on DU supporting Netanyahu
Mon May 5, 2025, 05:43 PM
May 2025

You want me to prove a negative?
Honestly?

If you challenge what I asserted, you would have to produce a post supporting Netanyahu.
I already said that it doesn't exist.
I promise I will recant my assertion if proven wrong.

Celerity

(54,711 posts)
22. I will not be baited into breaking DU TOS, which is what you are trying to do by telling me to post direct links
Mon May 5, 2025, 05:53 PM
May 2025

to other posters' posts.

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,161 posts)
29. What nonsense.
Mon May 5, 2025, 06:42 PM
May 2025

You can provide links without the name, I've done it numerous times without any hides, which, IMO, proves that you can't provide any links to anyone on DU supporting Nuttyahoo, because there are none, yet you persist on this false narrative.

Good luck with that.

Celerity

(54,711 posts)
36. That is sheer sophistry. Posting link to a poster's post calls them out, whether you type their name or not.
Mon May 5, 2025, 07:41 PM
May 2025

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,161 posts)
38. Well, if that were true,
Mon May 5, 2025, 08:14 PM
May 2025

then why hasn't any of my numerous posts doing just that been hidden?
I think that you can't provide any links but just won't admit your wrong, but that's ok, that's your right.

Celerity

(54,711 posts)
39. More sophistry. You're wilfully conflating innocuous postings of links to another DU post (OP or reply) to the posting
Mon May 5, 2025, 08:40 PM
May 2025

of a link to one that would negatively call-out a poster.

There are a wide variety of the first type (the innocuous ones) of post-linking replies, and and they have numerous legit, TOS-conforming reasons as to why DUers post them.

The second type (negative call-outs), which you are repeatedly trying to bait me into posting, is specifically against DU TOS.

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,161 posts)
27. LOL.
Mon May 5, 2025, 06:40 PM
May 2025

You make a claim and then refuse to back it up with any proof yet you want others to do your work for you?

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,161 posts)
26. So, IOW,
Mon May 5, 2025, 06:38 PM
May 2025

you can't provide the links?
You made the claim, it's up to you to prove it with the links.

Bettie

(19,791 posts)
23. Posting direct links to those posts
Mon May 5, 2025, 05:58 PM
May 2025

is considered a "callout" and will break TOS. Nice try though.

Mossfern

(4,735 posts)
28. I wasn't my aim to get anyone in trouble.
Mon May 5, 2025, 06:40 PM
May 2025

A link to a thread is allowable though.
Even a PM will suffice.

Please understand: It is not possible to prove a negative.

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,161 posts)
30. Providing links to others posts without naming the DU'er is not a callout,
Mon May 5, 2025, 06:45 PM
May 2025

I've done it numerous times without a post removal, so that's incorrect.
Now if the post contains the DUer's name, then that would be a callout and subject to post removal, rightly so as it would violate the ToS.

Violet_Crumble

(36,402 posts)
42. I've seen posts removed before that only contain links.
Mon May 5, 2025, 09:53 PM
May 2025

It's the luck of the draw. I wouldn't want to take the risk, myself, plus in my case, I don't bookmark posts like that.

What's far more common in my experience is to avoid making any criticism of the Israeli govt by blaming things like US voters and Hamas.

I've found that making absolutist comments like 'no-one has ever...' is a bit silly and unrealistic. I've seen all sorts of things in my many years in the I/P forum, and it's not just on one 'side' as some would like you to believe.

Don't ask me for any links, coz I'm too lazy to go looking and I'm not bullshitting about any of this

Mossfern

(4,735 posts)
51. Just a point of clarification .....
Mon May 5, 2025, 11:46 PM
May 2025

I did not say "no one ever".
I said "I have not seen *one* ..."

There is a great difference between the two statements.
- in case you're referring to my post.

Mossfern

(4,735 posts)
33. I did think about it before I posted
Mon May 5, 2025, 07:26 PM
May 2025

My reasoning was that the post was in a DU thread with mostly DU members participating, therefore the comment "we know who you are" was directed at DU participants.

Others wouldn't we viewing their post.

Violet_Crumble

(36,402 posts)
40. Do you react the same to posts claiming DUers support Hamas?
Mon May 5, 2025, 09:29 PM
May 2025

I just popped to to say that I've seen quite a few posts cheerleading the actions of Nutty. I've also seen one DUer chide others for using derogatory nicknames for him. Ive also seen one DUer make excuses for the violence of extremist Israeli settlers, insist that Musk's Nazi salute actually wasn't a Nazi salute, amongst other things.

If you want to label me a liar, go right ahead. I'm not struggling with a substandard search tool to try to track down old posts, coz I've got better things to do with my time. I'm also pretty sure that if someone does dug up links to cheerleading, there'll be a myriad of excuses made (not aiming this at you) as to why it's not actually cheerleading and ridiculing anyone who thinks otherwise. That's been done to me when I objected to a post stereotyping Palestinians as violent terrorists.

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,474 posts)
48. I've seen plenty of people post "FAFO" and words to that effect. They are ghouls and I don't engage with them.
Mon May 5, 2025, 10:49 PM
May 2025

Anyway, a hit dog’s gonna holler.

Mossfern

(4,735 posts)
50. I have seen Duers supporing Palestinians
Mon May 5, 2025, 11:39 PM
May 2025

But I can't recall any specific post directly supporting Hamas.

I can honestly say that I don't recall anyone supporting or making excuses for West Bank settlers either.
I'm not claiming to know what every post says and have already said that if I am shown that I am mistaken, I will accede the point.

I did not label anyone a liar. That is not in my nature.

As a matter of fact, it was another poster here that implied that I was a liar for saying that I have
not seen anyone supporting Netanyahu...... and then wanted me to prove a their point.



Mossfern

(4,735 posts)
53. Thank you
Tue May 6, 2025, 09:59 AM
May 2025

f noor your well thought out and valuable contribution to the conversation.

allegorical oracle

(6,513 posts)
24. I don't have a link at the tip of my fingers, but believe if/when this war ends,
Mon May 5, 2025, 06:13 PM
May 2025

Last edited Mon May 5, 2025, 07:42 PM - Edit history (1)

Bibi's gotta go back to the courtroom where he's on trial. He doesn't want to do that. And djt can't pardon him unless he can be made an honorary U.S. citizen (or maybe buys one of those gold cards that djt is selling.)

Bettie

(19,791 posts)
43. I expect that he has another
Mon May 5, 2025, 09:54 PM
May 2025

war on the back burner for when he's removed the people in Gaza from the planet.

Probably the West Bank, eradicating the Palestinian population there. After that, he can move on to any number of places his right wing settler base wants to annex.

Behind the Aegis

(56,136 posts)
35. Do you mean these people? "Pro-Palestinian Activists Gave Trump a Boost. They Have No Regrets."
Mon May 5, 2025, 07:39 PM
May 2025
Groups that rallied against Biden and Harris say they’d do it all over again.

SINCE RETURNING TO OFFICE, Donald Trump has said he wants to “clean out” the Gaza Strip, send Palestinians to Egypt or Jordan, and construct a Mar-a-Gaza on the Mediterranean. He’s lifted Biden-era restraints on Israel, including a hold on the supply of 2,000-pound bombs. And while he has secured the releases of hostages, he has not brought an end to the war, despite promising to do so.

In fact, the humanitarian situation in Gaza has grown only more dire on his watch. Israel has expanded its attacks and aid to Palestinian civilians has been blocked for nearly two months. Food that was stockpiled during the ceasefire at the start of the year is running out, with international health officials warning of worsening malnutrition among children.

The record, in the aggregate, has been one of more conflict and suffering. And it raises the obvious question of whether pro-Palestine voters and groups who called for opposing or abstained from supporting Joe Biden and Kamala Harris over their handling of the war feel even a tinge of regret.

For the most part, the answer is a clear “no.”

“It was worth it because we got to continue centering what was happening in Gaza,” said Layla Elabed, the cofounder of Uncommitted, which declined to endorse Harris and encouraged people to vote their conscience. Asked if she feels any guilt about Trump’s win, Elabed said that what frustrates her is that their months of activism ultimately “wasn’t enough to save lives.”

https://www.thebulwark.com/p/pro-palestinian-activists-gave-trump-boost-no-2024-regrets-biden-harris-gaza-israel

Looks like owning the Democrats was more important to them than helping elect Trump.
to Zorro


What about the ones who keep defending the assholes in the article above?

mcar

(46,190 posts)
37. Yep. They provided the fuel for Musk's advertising fire
Mon May 5, 2025, 07:47 PM
May 2025

in specific states.

The fact that they will not admit their mistakes says volumes.

Violet_Crumble

(36,402 posts)
41. Why do you think Nutty would listen to the US?
Mon May 5, 2025, 09:38 PM
May 2025

Also, rather than blaming US voters, how about blaming the Israeli govt led by Netanyahu for this?

Violet_Crumble

(36,402 posts)
47. Yes, that's a constant, no matter which administration it is...
Mon May 5, 2025, 10:15 PM
May 2025

I do think that those who think Israel would have suddenly started listening if Harris had won the election are living in fantasy land and not remembering how Israel behaved during the Obama era, or even with a very pro-Israel Biden administration.

iemanja

(57,772 posts)
49. Yes, especially if Harris continued the Biden policy.
Mon May 5, 2025, 10:57 PM
May 2025

Also, white people love to blame Muslims for Harris defeat. This despite the fact that according to AP, Muslims voted 61% for Harris, whereas a great majority of white people voted for Trump.

bdamomma

(69,590 posts)
45. Bastards
Mon May 5, 2025, 10:03 PM
May 2025

The Felon, Orban, Putin and Netanyahu, CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY. Hopefully they will meet their end.

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