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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThere may be another 'dog-whistle' in the "Saul Alinsky" profferring by Herr Gingrich:
Disclaimer known to most: I'm Jewish and pro-Zionist, so as Dick Gregory once said on Johnny Carson's show, "I can say this."
In addition to the name sounding foreign and whatever, it sounds REALLY REALLY JEWISH and "COMMIE" JEWISH at that. Gingrich doesn't have to explicate the text of Alinsky he just has to SAY HIS NAME over and over and over and the Klan-wannabees will get the point. Remember where all those primaries are going to be...not in New York or Connecticut anytime soon. That's all anyone has to hear in some areas of the country...including rural portions of NE states.
I would say, like all the other crap that spews out of Gingrich in scripted speeches, that this is quite deliberate. No reason not to accept checks from Adelson with a wink towards the neo-Nazis/anti-Semites/racists.
Marnie
(844 posts)in assuming that more than about 10% of the American population know what Saul Alinsky represents.
Unless you are implying that repeating the name Saul multiple times will have any effect on a person's vote, when that person named Saul isn't on the ballot.
PCIntern
(25,642 posts)it has nothing to do with the philosophy of Alinsky: it's the ethnicity of the name oft repeated...
I think Democrats should just start saying the Republican Party of George W. Bush instead of saying Republican.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)never even thought about that aspect of it, but that does makes sense. Gingrich must know most Americans don't know who in the hell Saul Alinsky is, so there must be other reasons he is bringing this up as a standard stump line in his speeches.
FarLeftFist
(6,161 posts)tell Newt to go f**k himself.
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)And I'm just a half-Norwegian, half-Irish ex-Catholic from Minnesota.
I'm pretty darn sure that barely any of those South Carolinans had ever even heard the name "Saul Alinsky" before in their lives, much less knew what he was about. But that name - that name clearly marks him as one of those others that certain folks want no truck with.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)as "jewwy" as all git-out, especially for rural populists.
Make no mistake: Gingrich is dog-whistling "The Jews" as much as he is the "Blacks." When OWS says "Wall Street," they mean global capitalism. When Gingrich says it, he means the New York Jews. That's clear enough.
A-Schwarzenegger
(15,596 posts)From the opening paragraph of Alinsky's Rules for Radicals:
"What follows is for those who want to change the world from
what it is to what they believe it should be. The Prince
was written by Machiavelli for the Haves on how to hold power.
Rules for Radicals is written for the Have-Nots on how to take it away."
I agree completely with your assessment, PCI. I can't see how
Newt is going to get away with such an appeal to ignorance &
bigotry if he does get the nomination & carries the same tactic
into the General. But perhaps the fear&hatred in the American
electorate has yet to be fully tapped.
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)PCIntern
(25,642 posts)gingrich has to be more careful in northern states is all I'm saying in that regard.
KharmaTrain
(31,706 posts)I'm a MOT and agree 1000% with you cause that's what I was hearing as well. While many Jewish people live in the South (especially Florida) most will not be voting in this rushpublican clown car demolition derby.
In another thread today someone called Cadrich a terrorist...and it's hard not to agree. His demegogery is on a level I have never heard from an American politican. Shamefully it's working...
Nancy Waterman
(6,407 posts)Saul Alinsky is a very Jewish/commie sounding name, indeed it is certainly another dogwhistle. Any one who isn't "one of us"
is suspect to the righties.
napoleon_in_rags
(3,991 posts)Saul Alinsky, "Saul", the form of "Paul" before accepting Christ. The relevant Alinsky quote:
Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins -- or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom -- Lucifer.
Lucifer from the fictional work of Milton, not part of the Bible, (except for the KJV Latin translation of one word in Isaiah 14:12 to differentiate it from the end of Revelations) which nonetheless became part of the Christian corpus of belief. (fictional works often became part of Christian dogma back then, you can see reflections of it now in rejection of Harry Potter and Star Wars by Christian groups) My source for that was the first when I searched for Alinsky Lucifer, here:
http://theisticsatanism.com/politics/Alinsky.html
"Saul D. Alinsky - A role model for left-wing Satanists" is the page title. Its rank on Google suggests the popularity of the concept of "left wing satanism", a political construct designed to consolidate evangelic belief behind right wing controllers instead of their old non-political priests.
It's unscientific. The Tao of scientific Truth is that it doesn't go away when you stop believing in it, the Tao of unscientific "truth" is that it takes constant reinforcement through suppression of contrary ideas to prop it up. (Propaganda) Speaking frankly, the Jewish people can be proud of their disproportionately large contributions to the area of scientific truth, but there will always be a shadow to this fact: the disproportionate suppression of the Jewish people in order to prop up these unscientific, propagandist "truths". Alinsky may be yet another victim.
kaiden
(1,314 posts)Newt is an ugly man.