MAGA will eventually turn on Trump.

[no_hypocrisy]

1928 election map:
Hoover got 40 states out of 48.
Al Smith got 8, and that despite the strong anti-Catholic sentiment at that time, his opposition to Prohibition, and his association with the legacy of corruption by Tammany Hall.

Between 1928 and 1932, Hoover felt pressure to save the American farmers and imposed tariffs. Those tariffs were a contributing factor to causing the Great Depression.

1932 election map:
Roosevelt got 42 states out of 48
Herbert Hoover got 6.
Talking about flipping the tables.

Roosevelt was the first Democrat to be elected president since 1916, the first to win an outright majority of the popular vote since 1876, and the first to win a majority of both the electoral and popular vote since 1852. Hoover was the only incumbent president to lose an election between 1912 and 1976, and the only elected incumbent to do so between 1912 and 1980. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1932_United_States_presidential_election

Wait until Trumpers go to Walmart and find the shelves sparse, if not empty. Wait until their supermarkets have lines that would make Soviet Russia jealous. Wait until their property taxes go up b/c federal aid has been cut to their schools.

2026 will be a whole 'nother election.

[mucifer]

1. They are brainwashed they hate us more

Than they love themselves.

They will blame us because they will be told to blame us.

[no_hypocrisy]

3. Hate only takes you so far.

When you're about to be foreclosed and/or evicted, when you're low on food, when you can't find money to put gas in the car to go to work, let's say your priorities shift.

[Aristus]

5. Priorities, yes; the blame: no.

They will blame Joe Biden, the Democratic Party, and anyone who supports them.

[Mountainguy]

8. Well in lots of red states

They can't vote if they are homeless.

[Aristus]

22. Typical red state bullshit.

The homeless can vote in Washington State. During election season back when I was working in the homeless community, my patients would all ask me for voting recommendations for candidates who supported public health initiatives, and so on.

[regnaD kciN]

26. "It's all caused by George Soros...!"

[EYESORE 9001]

11. I classify this MAGAt 'movement' (in the most scatological meaning of the word)

as one with borderline personality disorder. Their idols can become pariahs almost instantaneously. Ask Mussolini.

[malaise]

2. Sooner than they think

Rec

[Aristus]

4. I wish I had your optimism. Nothing the MAGAts have done so far indicates that they will ever turn on him.

Point out as many things as you like that Trump has done that either are hurting them now, or will sooner or later. They will just reply (with so much uniformity I'm starting to think they are MAGA-mandated talking points) : "I still support him because he's doing good things for the country."

I'm not kidding; those are the exact words they have all been parroting.

Water can wear away stone. But it takes a long, long time...

We don't have a long time.

[C_U_L8R]

6. It's all fun and games

...until you start losing money.
Magats are gonna find out the hard way.

[hamsterjill]

7. No they won't.

They are simply too damn stupid to understand things. If they had any sense, they wouldn't be supporting Trump in the first place.

Don't give these idiots more credit than they are due.

[no_hypocrisy]

9. OK, how about this:

FOX viewers will dwindle as well social media fans of Trump -- because they won't have the money for cable TV and/or online services.

All they'll have is limited AM-radio syndicated programs of Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, etc.

They will miss their forays into Walmart. They will miss tickets to monster truck rallies. They will have to cut down their consumption of Bud to one 6-pack a week.

Trust me, their anger at TSF will be greater than their manifested hatred for "Radical leftist Communists".

[CTyankee]

12. I hope so. The sooner the better for them and for us.

[hamsterjill]

13. Well, let's hope. But I live in Texas, among the really crazy Trumpers.

And trust me - they will blame someone else for everything he does. They believe he has been sent by God, and they aren't going to question God.

Now, will they thin out as they die off? Yes. But that's going to take a long time because the majority of what *I* see here are thirty to forty year old men with long-ass, ugly beards driving their big bubba trucks DARING anyone to oppose them.

They are ignorant.

[no_hypocrisy]

15. What are Texan MAGA gonna say when there's a . . . . disparity between sentiment and fact?

Sure, blame Joe Biden for being evicted, losing a job, not having enough beer, etc.

But Joe Biden isn't in a position to fix anything.

The focus will be on whoever's in charge to "fix things". And TSF can't do the GWTW Prissy number of "I don't know nuthin' about birthin' babies!" The Buck Stops Here.

[hamsterjill]

23. They won't see facts. Won't acknowledge facts.

This is the point that you are missing with relation to my post. They. Are. Ignorant.

They will believe whatever TSF tells them to believe, and he will NOT be telling them that any of that is his fault. Cult members generally follow the cult leader.

We can agree to disagree.

[Martin Eden]

19. Those who voted for Trump are not a monolithic bloc of MAGA cultists

A large swath of people who bothered to vote don't pay a lot of attention to politics, and can change direction with the wind of their social groups. Voters are fickle. Some voted for Obama then Trump.

And a lot of the Democratic base didn't bother to vote. Many independents did not see Kamala Harris as presidential material, and strongly disliked her. Yes, I know, dislike for Trump should have been overwhelming.

I'm predicting a huge turnout for the midterms. What I can't predict is whether we will have free & fair elections.

[hamsterjill]

24. Sorry, but I disagree, at least to an extent.

They are all the same in one respect. They hated US enough to settle for HIM - whether that meant actually voting for him or else refusing to take the time to get out and vote against him. No one can claim ignorance of what Trump is and stands for after suffering through the first term.

I sincerely and genuinely HOPE that you are correct and we see change in the midterms. And I definitely share your concerns about whether there will still be free and fair elections at that point.

[Jit423]

10. All that you post is factual. However, times and technology have changed. Propaganda is by AI is unstoppable.

The media is different and RW media gets more play and attention and is believed more by the voters because it pushes the worst instincts of it audience. I fear history will not save us from another RW-cabal.

[progressoid]

25. Yep. This is the threat that everyone seems to be ignoring

[regnaD kciN]

27. Not just AI...

Remember, back in 1932, we didn’t even have television. Only radio, for limited hours per day, and most of that was apolitical entertainment programming.

[Johnny2X2X]

14. I think the brainwashing is a little different than people think

They aren't brainwashed just to hate Dems, they are brainwashed to hate everyone. They think empathy and compassion are evil, they think freedom means only caring about yourself, they think caring for others is unAmerican. That's where they're at psychologically, that anyone who isn;t behaving in the most selfish way possible is anti American. And they have this entire media, information,and even antertainment ecosystem that feeds this to them every day.

[no_hypocrisy]

20. Seems to me that greed and mercenary interests trump hatred.

My father was in Germany at the tail end of WWII.

The Germans were ecstatic to see American GI's.

Why, I asked Dad. The US just bombed the hell out of Dresden.

Dad replied that people will support anyone who gives them food when they're starving.

[Martin Eden]

16. Crossing my fingers that we'll have free & fair elections in 2026

Fascists will do ANYTHING to maintain their grip on power.

[Iris]

17. Not every Trump voter is MAGA

I know that's probably an unpopular opinion but there has always been around 30% of voters who have always wanted this kind of authoritarianism.

It's the mushy middle that needs to turn. The sooner the better.

[Self Esteem]

18. Just wait! Surely they'll turn on him...

...I said in 2016.

And again in 2020.

And once more in 2024.

Surely it'll happen this time!

Meanwhile, Trump has only gotten more popular over the years.

In 2016, he won 46% of the vote.

In 2020, he won 47% of the vote.

In 2024, he won 50% of the vote.

Trump is more popular today than he was at this point in 2017 on average.

People have been predicting the collapse of Trump since 2015 and every single time, they've been wrong.

[biocube]

21. Just wait until we have empty shelves and stagflation

Trump's most die-hard cult members.