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Dr. T

(644 posts)
Tue May 6, 2025, 01:06 PM May 2025

I just saw a clip on ABC News of Canadian PM Carney

appearing to suck up to the Orange Asshat. WTF? Diplomacy or copying what Putin does to him? Flattery followed by a stiff backhand across the face?

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Dr. T

(644 posts)
2. "We need your great leadership in these trying times" or
Tue May 6, 2025, 01:20 PM
May 2025

words to that effect was a bit much. I'm all for civility. But, I hope Carney prepared by watching the Zelynski meeting. I wasn't suggesting a literal punch in the face but a verbal one. I'm sorry if it came across like that.

Ocelot II

(130,516 posts)
3. Carney knows Trump can be bought with flattery.
Tue May 6, 2025, 01:24 PM
May 2025

He's playing him. It's the only way anybody can deal with him.

Dr. T

(644 posts)
5. I figured as much. And Carney did it
Tue May 6, 2025, 01:30 PM
May 2025

without puking. On the surface, it was shocking. But if you know how to play chess, it makes sense.

Johnny2X2X

(24,203 posts)
4. Get used to this
Tue May 6, 2025, 01:28 PM
May 2025

At all levels. There is a book on Trump, you flatter him and he'll give you whatever you want. So world leaders don't owe it to American voters to stqand up to Trump, they owe it to their own country to get the best deal possible and that often starts with buttering the easily influenced Trump up.

Ocelot II

(130,516 posts)
6. Exactly. It's hard to watch, and probably even harder to actually do it.
Tue May 6, 2025, 01:32 PM
May 2025

But Trump's ego is a black hole of need, and fulsome flattery is the price that has to be paid to keep him in line.

Bev54

(13,431 posts)
7. He is polite and in Trump's home. If Americans see that as
Tue May 6, 2025, 01:48 PM
May 2025

“Sucking up” then you don’t understand Canadians at all.

Meadowoak

(6,606 posts)
8. I saw Carney explaining things to Trump like he was talking to a kindergardener
Tue May 6, 2025, 01:55 PM
May 2025

And Trump still couldn't grasp it.

peggysue2

(12,531 posts)
9. Carney is smart, far smarter than our dimwitted, wanna-be dictator.
Tue May 6, 2025, 02:00 PM
May 2025

The man (I hope) mixes this initial flattery (soften the man-baby up) with hard-nosed negotiation reality--the tariffs are a bad idea and will hurt everyone including the United States. Carney has already stated his 'red line' innumerable times.

Will Trump take the cue?

Probably not because Agent Orange loathes the idea of backing off. I'm counting on Carney to finesse the situation as best he can. But the bottom line?

You strike Canada, Canada strikes back.

Then we all lose.

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