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Nanjeanne

(6,589 posts)
Tue May 6, 2025, 03:24 PM May 2025

Bye Bye Social Security - Senate Just Confirmed Bisignano -

https://www.npr.org/2025/05/06/nx-s1-5357629/social-security-administration-frank-bisignano-confirmed]

In a 53-47 vote, the U.S. Senate has confirmed the nomination of tech CEO Frank Bisignano to be the commissioner of the Social Security Administration


Democrats in the Senate have also raised concerns about Bisignano's alleged communication with members of billionaire Elon Musk's team, known as the Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE.

Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., accused Bisignano of lying "about his actions and communications with DOGE and the Social Security Administration prior to his hearing." During Bisignano's confirmation hearing before the Finance Committee, Wyden said a whistleblower told his office that the nominee "personally intervened to get DOGE officials installed … and got basically approved in the middle of the night as a result of [Bisignano's] insistence."


Nancy Altman, president of Social Security Works, said in a statement during the Senate's consideration of the nomination that "Social Security needs a commissioner whose loyalty is to beneficiaries, not Elon Musk." She said Bisagnano is not that person.


So every single Republican has this to defend as well. We are so fucked.
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Bye Bye Social Security - Senate Just Confirmed Bisignano - (Original Post) Nanjeanne May 2025 OP
I retire soon. Not sure I'll ever see mine. Others receiving benefits may not continue receiving them. And... CousinIT May 2025 #1
It was a bad, bad day when Trump was elected but I think we were convinced that would never happen. elocs May 2025 #5
I have progressive neighbors that didn't vote. "Oh they're all the same. I want Bernie!" CousinIT May 2025 #29
CULTS Skittles May 2025 #51
I just went from SSI to SS Tickle May 2025 #17
SS enid602 May 2025 #53
It is indeed a BAD BAD day. yellow dahlia May 2025 #60
One important thing about us retries, multigraincracker May 2025 #2
Oh, I read that several times. I thought you mean retreads. You mean retirees. bucolic_frolic May 2025 #4
I have very fat fingers too. multigraincracker May 2025 #20
Well, I guess we could be retreads too! CousinIT May 2025 #30
But how many retirees who voted for Trump & Republican candidates will change their votes? elocs May 2025 #6
Mess with SS and Medicare. and put big dent in that. multigraincracker May 2025 #22
THIS senior didn't vote for that asshole. CousinIT May 2025 #31
And We Spend! Mr.Bee May 2025 #41
Republicans won't miss it. Their (R) Congresspeople will hear nothing but praise. bucolic_frolic May 2025 #3
I suspect there will be millions in the street vapor2 May 2025 #7
Collins was not concerned? ThoughtCriminal May 2025 #8
"Bye Bye Social Security" Yes! That's the kind of good news that keeps me coming back to DU. elocs May 2025 #9
You only want good news - there are plenty of places on DU to enjoy some fun. You can also trash any thread Nanjeanne May 2025 #10
Hey, I've trashed lots of threads in the 19 years years I have been at DU. elocs May 2025 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Rebl2 May 2025 #14
There's a little x next to the thread title - click on that and it goes in the trash. Nanjeanne May 2025 #18
I would not be at all offended if people trash my threads. We're all welcome to do so. CousinIT May 2025 #32
Just click the trash box- it is at the top left at the bottom of the OP Meowmee May 2025 #19
I agree... gratuitous Doom & Gloom.. Cha May 2025 #23
Arrest every one of those notsees, now! Clouds Passing May 2025 #12
Not much the new A-hole can do, but I'm sure some will try to scare every poor SS beneficiary who has Silent Type May 2025 #13
This is the Third Rail. They better tread carefully. Joinfortmill May 2025 #15
Begining to the end Abundance77 May 2025 #16
I wouldn't go that far senseandsensibility May 2025 #21
ONLY Rachel Maddow covered it, I think. Sad as hell people take Social Security for granted. nt CousinIT May 2025 #33
Fight & DownriverDem May 2025 #24
Another thread to trash. valleyrogue May 2025 #25
Trashing is your friend. Nanjeanne May 2025 #27
You are the yada yada here Captain Zero May 2025 #36
Is that an insult? It never occurs to be to be rude to people on a message board so I must be missing something Nanjeanne May 2025 #43
Rec. TY Cha May 2025 #64
The SSA commissioner has zero control over whether Wiz Imp May 2025 #26
Thank you. elleng May 2025 #28
It's safe until Congress touches it. Wiz Imp May 2025 #39
Uh-huh. A lot of other things are the purview of Congress too but they're happpening 100% without them. nt CousinIT May 2025 #34
Not really. Regardless, if Trump want to try to do it unilaterally, he will do it. Wiz Imp May 2025 #37
DeJoy DENVERPOPS May 2025 #42
DeJoy was not commissioner of USPS, he was Postmaster General Wiz Imp May 2025 #44
Dejoy helped throw the 16' election to pbmus May 2025 #54
Completely WRONG! Dejoy wasn't even appointed until 2020. Wiz Imp May 2025 #56
Plus, remember when Shrub flew around the US eating birthday cake and playing air guitar sprinkleeninow May 2025 #35
Bringing facts to a sky is falling thread EdmondDantes_ May 2025 #38
Mahalo for Some Wisdom! Much Needed & Cha May 2025 #65
In 2026 21 Repug Senators are up for election. Hang this vote around their necks. flashman13 May 2025 #40
Sorry, but very few people in the general public are going to care bout this guy being confirmed. Wiz Imp May 2025 #47
Susan Collins is trying her hardest to lose her Senate seat Rstrstx May 2025 #45
'Knock off all the "sky is falling" stuff . . . madamesilverspurs May 2025 #46
I'd post the statements from Dem Senators talking about this plan to destroy SS and how Bisignano Nanjeanne May 2025 #48
Apparently, some Democrats voted for him too nt doc03 May 2025 #49
Nope, just checked Bettie May 2025 #52
WTF? Why would you think that. Wiz Imp May 2025 #57
Not according to the tally, it was along party lines Meowmee May 2025 #58
Meanwhile, tRump's voting seniors are at the rallies NOW... BigmanPigman May 2025 #50
When does it end? Jose Garcia May 2025 #55
We are watching a crime spree... yellow dahlia May 2025 #59
Thank you Dem senators for being united as a team. Hotler May 2025 #61
This (along with everything else) will be the undoing of a Republican-controlled Congress n/t AntiFascist May 2025 #62
53-47.... Was that a strictly "party line" vote?? Jack Valentino May 2025 #63
Yes it is. Nanjeanne May 2025 #66

CousinIT

(12,541 posts)
1. I retire soon. Not sure I'll ever see mine. Others receiving benefits may not continue receiving them. And...
Tue May 6, 2025, 03:29 PM
May 2025

..when Social Security is privatized and the trust fund looted, all of our payments will be drastically cut.

It WAS the most efficient, fraud-free agency in government and the most effective anti-poverty program in America.

Now? It will be run by greedy, money-grubbing faceless private equity goons and AI. The small shortfall that COULD have been dealt with by raising the cap or the full age slightly (or both) will now become a chasm and benefits will be difficult to get and they will be greatly reduced.

Asshole MAGAts voted for this. Including my dumbass relatives WHO ARE LIVING ON IT.

But when it's cut, they'll blame "both sides" or the Democrats. Nothing in life is more certain other than death and taxes.

This is a BAD, BAD day.

 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
5. It was a bad, bad day when Trump was elected but I think we were convinced that would never happen.
Tue May 6, 2025, 04:10 PM
May 2025

Harris got 3% less of the female vote than Biden did in 2020 when she needed as much if not more. She also received 2% less of the Black vote, 13% less of the Latino vote.
I wonder how many Democrats or those who usually voted Democratic skipped voting?

CousinIT

(12,541 posts)
29. I have progressive neighbors that didn't vote. "Oh they're all the same. I want Bernie!"
Tue May 6, 2025, 05:53 PM
May 2025

Dumbasses!

I have Mexican friends/family who have told me that it's the men (at least the ones they know) who would not vote for a women. I've heard that from a few places/groups.

As for women, I have no freaking idea how they have no self-respect, same w/ black voters.

 

Tickle

(4,131 posts)
17. I just went from SSI to SS
Tue May 6, 2025, 05:20 PM
May 2025

You'll be fine and you will get your SS just like you are supposed to.

My check has not been late, in fact early by a couple of days. SS is not going away. I've been hearing this since 1981 when they came out with the 401K plans.

enid602

(9,686 posts)
53. SS
Tue May 6, 2025, 08:18 PM
May 2025

SS is bot going away, but Republicans appear to be calling for a 20-30% decrease in benefits. They also want similar cuts in Medicare, which they would take out of beneficiaries’ monthly SS payment. They probably can’t make the cuts by using DOGE, so they’ll most likely agree to fund future government budgets by ‘reconciling’ cuts into approval. I heard they are trying to cut Medicaid this year by using this tactic. Vote in the Midterms and resist!

bucolic_frolic

(55,142 posts)
4. Oh, I read that several times. I thought you mean retreads. You mean retirees.
Tue May 6, 2025, 03:58 PM
May 2025

I swear this site skips letters or inserts others at times. I have the same problem.

 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
6. But how many retirees who voted for Trump & Republican candidates will change their votes?
Tue May 6, 2025, 04:17 PM
May 2025
https://www.aarp.org/politics-society/government-elections/info-2024/election-analysis-older-voters.html

"President-elect Donald Trump has the power of older voters to thank for his victory in Tuesday’s election.

Voters 50-plus put their weight behind Republican Trump over Democratic Vice President Kamala Harris. These voters favored Trump over Harris, 52 to 47 percent, according to AP VoteCast."

So take a bow seniors because you'll get what you voted for like the rest of us.

CousinIT

(12,541 posts)
31. THIS senior didn't vote for that asshole.
Tue May 6, 2025, 05:56 PM
May 2025

I went Harris Walz.

How freaking STUPID do you have to be to vote for a party that despises Social Security - WHEN YOUR ASS IS LIVING ON IT?!

bucolic_frolic

(55,142 posts)
3. Republicans won't miss it. Their (R) Congresspeople will hear nothing but praise.
Tue May 6, 2025, 03:56 PM
May 2025

They will never hear a Democratic voice on the subject because they will be filtered out by their henchmen, I mean underlings.

This is the Social Darwinism we raged against when Reagan took office. You knew it would lead here. The country is cooked. Done. It's founding principles gone. It's now about power and privilege and Horatio Alger stories. If you fail, Alcatraz is reopening. Orange clings to that because it's pre-Great Society. It's what he was taught and remembers.

vapor2

(4,509 posts)
7. I suspect there will be millions in the street
Tue May 6, 2025, 04:26 PM
May 2025

if this a**hole touches OUR money. REPUBLICANS OWN THE ENTIRE CORRUPT REGIME.

 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
9. "Bye Bye Social Security" Yes! That's the kind of good news that keeps me coming back to DU.
Tue May 6, 2025, 04:39 PM
May 2025

Somebody always delivers it.

Nanjeanne

(6,589 posts)
10. You only want good news - there are plenty of places on DU to enjoy some fun. You can also trash any thread
Tue May 6, 2025, 05:04 PM
May 2025

you aren't interested in -- or not click on it. Lots of options. Enjoy them all!

 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
11. Hey, I've trashed lots of threads in the 19 years years I have been at DU.
Tue May 6, 2025, 05:08 PM
May 2025

GD is particularly heavy on bad news. A 10/90 good news/bad news mix would be good though. We could use a pinch of hope.

Response to Nanjeanne (Reply #10)

CousinIT

(12,541 posts)
32. I would not be at all offended if people trash my threads. We're all welcome to do so.
Tue May 6, 2025, 05:57 PM
May 2025

Thankfully. GO for it!

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
19. Just click the trash box- it is at the top left at the bottom of the OP
Tue May 6, 2025, 05:22 PM
May 2025

I do that fairly frequently with things I can't be bothered with. It only works if you are logged in though. I think you can also filter out key words.

Cha

(319,079 posts)
23. I agree... gratuitous Doom & Gloom..
Tue May 6, 2025, 05:29 PM
May 2025

anyway that's just an opinion.. take it for what it's worth.



TY

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
13. Not much the new A-hole can do, but I'm sure some will try to scare every poor SS beneficiary who has
Tue May 6, 2025, 05:14 PM
May 2025

nothing else that their checks won't arrive next month.

Abundance77

(22 posts)
16. Begining to the end
Tue May 6, 2025, 05:18 PM
May 2025

I am as scared as I can be. It so hard to accept that ALL SENATE REPUBLICANS have no heart
But I guess as of today's vote that it is true.

senseandsensibility

(24,975 posts)
21. I wouldn't go that far
Tue May 6, 2025, 05:24 PM
May 2025

We can't give up, and I won't. You're right to be alarmed though. This is a disturbing and dangerous confirmation. There was rally to save SS yesterday with Martin O'Malley and others. It did not receive enough attention. We need to stay on this!

CousinIT

(12,541 posts)
33. ONLY Rachel Maddow covered it, I think. Sad as hell people take Social Security for granted. nt
Tue May 6, 2025, 05:58 PM
May 2025

DownriverDem

(7,014 posts)
24. Fight &
Tue May 6, 2025, 05:42 PM
May 2025

focus on the 2026 Midterms. We need to make sure the sometimes voters know that they are needed.

Nanjeanne

(6,589 posts)
43. Is that an insult? It never occurs to be to be rude to people on a message board so I must be missing something
Tue May 6, 2025, 06:30 PM
May 2025

Wiz Imp

(9,996 posts)
26. The SSA commissioner has zero control over whether
Tue May 6, 2025, 05:47 PM
May 2025

Social security is cut or discontinued or privatized. That is completely in control of Congress. This guy being confirmed changes nothing concerning the future of SS.

Wiz Imp

(9,996 posts)
39. It's safe until Congress touches it.
Tue May 6, 2025, 06:14 PM
May 2025

Unfortunately, since Republicans control both the House and Senate, that could happen at any time (though they'd have to kill the filibuster to do it or somehow try to put it in a reconciliation bill). Anyway, this guy being confirmed for SSA commissioner (as horrible and corrupt as he may be) changes nothing. He is in charge of the agency NOT the actual SS Program.

CousinIT

(12,541 posts)
34. Uh-huh. A lot of other things are the purview of Congress too but they're happpening 100% without them. nt
Tue May 6, 2025, 05:59 PM
May 2025

Wiz Imp

(9,996 posts)
37. Not really. Regardless, if Trump want to try to do it unilaterally, he will do it.
Tue May 6, 2025, 06:08 PM
May 2025

The SSA commissioner makes no difference.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
42. DeJoy
Tue May 6, 2025, 06:24 PM
May 2025

being appointed commissioner of the USPS sure as hell changed a lot things....Did I hear he is resigning and turning the job over to Trump/??

Wiz Imp

(9,996 posts)
44. DeJoy was not commissioner of USPS, he was Postmaster General
Tue May 6, 2025, 06:41 PM
May 2025

The Postmaster General is appointed by the Board of Governors. Not the President or Congress. The Postmaster General has authority over the operations of the USPS, but he does not have the ability to abolish the USPS or privatize it (which would be equivalent actions to saying "bye" to Social Security as the OP seemed to think the SSA commissioner can do - he can't). AS said elsewhere, the SSA Commissioner has authority over the agency and can implement changes in how the agency is run if he wants to, but he CAN'T change how the program is administered

pbmus

(13,141 posts)
54. Dejoy helped throw the 16' election to
Tue May 6, 2025, 08:48 PM
May 2025

The dumpster, i am talking about sorting machines that he had removed from key post offices

Wiz Imp

(9,996 posts)
56. Completely WRONG! Dejoy wasn't even appointed until 2020.
Tue May 6, 2025, 08:59 PM
May 2025
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_DeJoy

He had nothing to do with the USPS until May of 2020.

sprinkleeninow

(22,343 posts)
35. Plus, remember when Shrub flew around the US eating birthday cake and playing air guitar
Tue May 6, 2025, 06:00 PM
May 2025
trying to convince seniors of his plan to privatize SS? They pitched a ginormous fit and his stupid initiative came to a screeching halt.

flashman13

(2,403 posts)
40. In 2026 21 Repug Senators are up for election. Hang this vote around their necks.
Tue May 6, 2025, 06:18 PM
May 2025

The greatest deliberative body in the world might as well go home much like the Reichstag did in 1933. Every one of the Republicans has disavowed their oath of office. Everyone of them must go.

Wiz Imp

(9,996 posts)
47. Sorry, but very few people in the general public are going to care bout this guy being confirmed.
Tue May 6, 2025, 06:46 PM
May 2025

There will be many more voters outraged by Republican votes which confirmed Hegseth, Bondi, Kennedy & Noem (and several more) than will care about this guy.

Rstrstx

(1,648 posts)
45. Susan Collins is trying her hardest to lose her Senate seat
Tue May 6, 2025, 06:43 PM
May 2025

She’s not even bothering with sternly worded letters anymore.

madamesilverspurs

(16,512 posts)
46. 'Knock off all the "sky is falling" stuff . . .
Tue May 6, 2025, 06:45 PM
May 2025

Trump will never be elected!' So we were assured in 2016.

We are not living in normal times. Our long-held reliables are no longer reliable. People are justified in seeing the ominous in gathering black clouds, we can understand their apprehensions without condemning them, especially since there is no one and nothing trustworthy in the party now in control.


.

Nanjeanne

(6,589 posts)
48. I'd post the statements from Dem Senators talking about this plan to destroy SS and how Bisignano
Tue May 6, 2025, 07:00 PM
May 2025

is going to abet that chaos - which obviously is why every single Dem voted No — but it’s honestly not worth the silly responses. The title of the OP was dramatic for a reason. To be honest I don’t expect Bisignano to declare SS gone tomorrow - but do believe that just like Kennedy and his disastrous ideas hurting our healthcare system, Bisignano (and his master, Musk) will be doing everything possible to create chaos and misery in the system to further the privatization plan.

People will have their reactions and some will be silly and some will be smart and some will make you think and some will make you want to pull your hair out. But you are so right - there is a lot we never thought would ever happen and to believe things cant happen because …. Democracy … is not the world we are living in.

Bettie

(19,704 posts)
52. Nope, just checked
Tue May 6, 2025, 08:16 PM
May 2025

zero Democrats voted for him, all of the Republicans did, of course, because they apparently don't care about people.

Wiz Imp

(9,996 posts)
57. WTF? Why would you think that.
Tue May 6, 2025, 09:02 PM
May 2025

ALL Republicans voted YES, ALL Democrats voted NO as was obviously going to happen. The majority of Senate votes are 53-47.

BigmanPigman

(55,151 posts)
50. Meanwhile, tRump's voting seniors are at the rallies NOW...
Tue May 6, 2025, 07:46 PM
May 2025

since this is a personal item for their own agenda. No tRump loving seniors were at the 22 other protests over the past 8 years that I attended. Where were they on climate change (FEMA will not come to help the red state victims as much as they did under Biden), where were they when 24 kids get shot at their school, where were they when the ACA needed support, etc.

I know where they were and they were NOT at the rallies for any of these issues. They were sitting home bitching about how horrible things are under Dem leadership. I have less than zero empathy for them. They are a part of the problem and these hypocrites coming to rallies on April 5th is BS! I also have less than zero respect for them. They voted for this sadistic, crazy, moronic fascist TWICE!!! My, my, now that their Social Security and healthcare may be on the chopping block they start to protest the GOP' 2025 agenda?!? BS!

yellow dahlia

(5,878 posts)
59. We are watching a crime spree...
Tue May 6, 2025, 09:50 PM
May 2025

and the Senate Republicans are escorting the thieves to the spoils.

AntiFascist

(13,751 posts)
62. This (along with everything else) will be the undoing of a Republican-controlled Congress n/t
Tue May 6, 2025, 11:13 PM
May 2025

Jack Valentino

(5,011 posts)
63. 53-47.... Was that a strictly "party line" vote??
Tue May 6, 2025, 11:45 PM
May 2025

is the party margin of the Senate, if I recall correctly

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