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edhopper

(37,370 posts)
Tue May 6, 2025, 08:36 PM May 2025

The purpose is to destroy the expert class

The people with knowledge, the ones who study and learn and find the truth of it all.
The GOP has been a Party free of facts and running on deception since at least Reagan.
They want the only reality to be the one they create to benefit themselves.
And now they have the power and will to eliminate anyone who can counter their anti-intellectual tyranny.
They are doing things we might not recover from. They are burning down the institutions that are vital to what our nation is, or was.

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The purpose is to destroy the expert class (Original Post) edhopper May 2025 OP
Of course it is. SheltieLover May 2025 #1
I remember the days of the McCarthy hearings when those terms were also used. erronis May 2025 #8
I suppose you are correct. SheltieLover May 2025 #10
Time to break out and re-read "Anti-intellectualism in American Life" no_hypocrisy May 2025 #32
Agree Meowmee May 2025 #2
Unfortunately, this tendency towards love of power is part of our genetics (I believe.) erronis May 2025 #9
Maybe part of people like psycho's but not of everyone's 😁 Meowmee May 2025 #12
Exactly. One of my daily refrains. yellow dahlia May 2025 #3
We sit and watch our great nation go down to idiots. rickyhall May 2025 #4
We sit and watch our great nation go down to idiots. rickyhall May 2025 #5
Just as Mao did KT2000 May 2025 #6
Didn't work out very well for Mao or his ravaged country. Expect the same here. erronis May 2025 #11
It worked for Mao edhopper May 2025 #15
He appointed idiots KT2000 May 2025 #30
Same thing happened under Stalin. yardwork May 2025 #34
Agreed. Pondering this for a week or so. BurnDoubt May 2025 #19
You know, The Cultural Revolution in China has popped up twice for me online recently, thanks, no doubt, to...... FadedMullet May 2025 #27
My friend who lived through KT2000 May 2025 #29
A Chinese friend of mine had a university professor father in northwest China. Irish_Dem May 2025 #31
An uneducated or undereducated population.... FoggyLake May 2025 #7
You are right-on! lastlib May 2025 #21
Like Pol Pot Nululu May 2025 #13
Very reminiscent of Pol Pot's crusade to kill all intellectuals and educated people. People with eyeglasses, were Martin68 May 2025 #14
1930s Germany Iamscrewed May 2025 #16
You know they hate history, ReRe May 2025 #22
Robert W Service speaks for me. Botany May 2025 #17
"Good Morning, Good Simpleton!"... BurnDoubt May 2025 #18
T. Jefferson: "An insightful and informed citizenry..... lastlib May 2025 #20
Fox News is their playbook Bayard May 2025 #28
Television in general has contributed to that. lastlib May 2025 #35
Turns out the "deep state" is the professionals who make the government function. hay rick May 2025 #23
"They want the only reality to be the one they create to benefit themselves" markodochartaigh May 2025 #24
There's a strong element of anti-semitism in this as well FakeNoose May 2025 #25
Yes. But there's a counter effort to recruit volunteers to create a centralized database to document summer_in_TX May 2025 #26
Yes. yardwork May 2025 #33
I once had a mentor/boss johnnyfins May 2025 #36
I was a billboard painter edhopper May 2025 #37
This is part of them wanting to eliminate the Middle Class. Liberal In Texas May 2025 #38

SheltieLover

(80,466 posts)
1. Of course it is.
Tue May 6, 2025, 08:42 PM
May 2025

Imho, it began when Hillary was running & magats began calling literate people, especially experts in their field, like Sec. Clinton "elitists."

Elitists? Really, magats? Dumb shits.

erronis

(23,880 posts)
8. I remember the days of the McCarthy hearings when those terms were also used.
Tue May 6, 2025, 10:02 PM
May 2025

Lumping liberals and communists and socialists and elitists together. Easier to attack as a group than worry about distinctions.

I'm sure this type of anti-intellectualism has been going on since we were swinging from the trees.

Of course, the RW has its own brand of know-it-alls.

no_hypocrisy

(54,908 posts)
32. Time to break out and re-read "Anti-intellectualism in American Life"
Wed May 7, 2025, 06:14 AM
May 2025

Anti-intellectualism in American Life is a book by Richard Hofstadter published in 1963 that won the 1964 Pulitzer Prize for General Nonfiction.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-intellectualism_in_American_Life

Worth getting for your own libraries.

erronis

(23,880 posts)
9. Unfortunately, this tendency towards love of power is part of our genetics (I believe.)
Tue May 6, 2025, 10:03 PM
May 2025

KT2000

(22,151 posts)
30. He appointed idiots
Wed May 7, 2025, 02:15 AM
May 2025

to government positions too. The agriculture minister knew nothing about agriculture, but he knew he better meet and exceed quotas for food. In order not to be killed, the farmers lied about their crop yields, and the minister lied to Mao. They were even exporting food crops. The reality was that 30 million people starved over 3 years.

BurnDoubt

(1,726 posts)
19. Agreed. Pondering this for a week or so.
Tue May 6, 2025, 11:01 PM
May 2025

Our culture has been dismembered. The hand-holds are gone. Monster Metamorphosis where our culture used to be. I feel we are perilously close to the breaking point as a Nation, and a species.

FadedMullet

(926 posts)
27. You know, The Cultural Revolution in China has popped up twice for me online recently, thanks, no doubt, to......
Tue May 6, 2025, 11:50 PM
May 2025

........Googles algorithm responding to recent trends. So you and I are probably not the only ones thinking along those lines. The push for more lenient child labor laws fits into that kind of program. What's next, we all are required to wear cheap cotton "Trump Jackets", insulated with newspaper and build backyard iron furnaces.

KT2000

(22,151 posts)
29. My friend who lived through
Wed May 7, 2025, 02:10 AM
May 2025

the Cultural Revolution has said twice now that this is worse. The level of fear coming from the government now she says is worse. Her father was a doctor and he was made to wear a dunce cap so people could yell at him. The principal in her grade school had to sit in a chair so the children could throw coal at her.

Irish_Dem

(81,266 posts)
31. A Chinese friend of mine had a university professor father in northwest China.
Wed May 7, 2025, 04:17 AM
May 2025

The father was kidnapped, sent to a "re-education" camp, and forced to do hard labor
for the rest of his life.

FoggyLake

(314 posts)
7. An uneducated or undereducated population....
Tue May 6, 2025, 09:51 PM
May 2025

...is less likely to question authority, challenge official narratives, or develop critical thinking skills.

Martin68

(27,749 posts)
14. Very reminiscent of Pol Pot's crusade to kill all intellectuals and educated people. People with eyeglasses, were
Tue May 6, 2025, 10:08 PM
May 2025

killed because that was an indication of someone who could read.

Iamscrewed

(486 posts)
16. 1930s Germany
Tue May 6, 2025, 10:14 PM
May 2025

Dictators play book 101,102.
Total failure to study history. Full fucking stop.

ReRe

(12,189 posts)
22. You know they hate history,
Tue May 6, 2025, 11:17 PM
May 2025

because history = knowledge.
Knowledge is their mortal enemy.

Botany

(77,323 posts)
17. Robert W Service speaks for me.
Tue May 6, 2025, 10:43 PM
May 2025

GRIN


If you're up against a bruiser and you're getting knocked about—
Grin.
If you're feeling pretty groggy, and you're licked beyond a doubt—
Grin.
Don't let him see you're funking, let him know with every clout,
Though your face is battered to a pulp, your blooming heart is stout;
Just stand upon your pins until the beggar knocks you out—
And grin.
This life's a bally battle, and the same advice holds true
Of grin.
If you're up against it badly, then it's only one on you,
So grin.
If the future's black as thunder, don't let people see you're blue;
Just cultivate a cast-iron smile of joy the whole day through;
If they call you "Little Sunshine," wish that they'd no troubles, too—
You may—grin.
Rise up in the morning with the will that, smooth or rough,
You'll grin.
Sink to sleep at midnight, and although you're feeling tough,
Yet grin.
There's nothing gained by whining, and you're not that kind of stuff;
You're a fighter from away back, and you won't take a rebuff;
Your trouble is that you don't know when you have had enough—
Don't give in.
If Fate should down you, just get up and take another cuff;
You may bank on it that there is no philosophy like bluff,
And grin.

BurnDoubt

(1,726 posts)
18. "Good Morning, Good Simpleton!"...
Tue May 6, 2025, 10:51 PM
May 2025

Try "A Canticle For Liebowitz" for a good read and a great Lesson.

lastlib

(28,268 posts)
20. T. Jefferson: "An insightful and informed citizenry.....
Tue May 6, 2025, 11:05 PM
May 2025

....is the archenemy of tyranny." The wealthy autocrats/oligarchs do not want "an insightful and informed citizenry" capable of opposing their tyranny, so keeping the citizenry uninformed, uneducated, and incapable of critical thinking is their key to creating the tyranny and the reality they want to maintain their power. It is the on-ramp of their superhighway to serfdom for us.

Bayard

(29,693 posts)
28. Fox News is their playbook
Wed May 7, 2025, 12:27 AM
May 2025

I don't know if it started out that way, but it has performed beyond all expectations in the dumbing down of America.

lastlib

(28,268 posts)
35. Television in general has contributed to that.
Wed May 7, 2025, 08:49 AM
May 2025

The mindless idiotic sitcoms, the utterly stupid and vapid "reality" shows---think "Honey Boo-boo" and Kardashians---have served well to lower the average IQ of Americans and to obliterate their critical thinking skills. We are now largely brain-dead zombies with the mission of enriching our corporate masters.

FakeNoose

(41,634 posts)
25. There's a strong element of anti-semitism in this as well
Tue May 6, 2025, 11:27 PM
May 2025

The idiot MAGAs have ruined us forever.

summer_in_TX

(4,168 posts)
26. Yes. But there's a counter effort to recruit volunteers to create a centralized database to document
Tue May 6, 2025, 11:41 PM
May 2025

everything that Trump and his followers are breaking so one day we can hold them fully accountable and be able to rebuild.

https://criticalread.substack.com/p/we-need-a-way-to-aggregate-what-donald

What we need is a central repository of information so that the full extent of the damage can be found in one place and assessed by the public -- and so that there’s a comprehensive record of what needs to be fixed and restored when the time comes to do so. (Sort of like a truth commission, but in real time.)

To aggregate all the existing information, organize it, and collect new data, we need a place, a process, and people.


johnnyfins

(3,768 posts)
36. I once had a mentor/boss
Wed May 7, 2025, 08:56 AM
May 2025

That thought he was always ahead of everyone else. He told me once that he used to paint murals in the city. This would have been in the 1970s. He said they would drive a nail into the wall, attach a string to it, and tie the paintbrush to the other end, so that when you held the paintbrush and kept the string tight, you could make perfect curves. He actually said "I invented that".

I said " Really? You invented the compass?"

This is TSF in a nutshell.

edhopper

(37,370 posts)
37. I was a billboard painter
Wed May 7, 2025, 09:00 AM
May 2025

we used that technique. I imagine it went back to ancient times.

Liberal In Texas

(16,270 posts)
38. This is part of them wanting to eliminate the Middle Class.
Wed May 7, 2025, 09:09 AM
May 2025

Righties think that the middle class has too much extra time and resources that endanger the privileged lofty positions of the uber wealthy. People having to work 2 or 3 jobs to make ends meet don't have time to go to protests or even enough time to vote. And the serfs should have to take any crap job the overlords decide they need to have to run their sweat shops.

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