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[Atypical Liberal]

1. No link.

I had heard yesterday that it is incorrect that Lanza was on Fanapt.

Has this been revised again?

Last I heard he was reported to be on medication but no one has confirmed what.

[No Compromise]

16. on medication? That's a start- now we deserve to know what@

This should already have been discussed in the media. I post this story in the hopes public demand will force the corporate media to tell the whole truth.

[Zoeisright]

2. So fucking what?

Without the guns, no massacre.

[treestar]

8. +1

The massacres happened before antidepressants, too. We have no way of knowing if there would not be more but for some people whom this type of medication helped.

[green for victory]

17. just for a second, suspend belief and go along

what if there *is* a link, as the US Gov asks, with SSRI's?

after the guns have been banned there is still a problem as the troubled person will find another way to kill.

So why not multitask and try to attack this problem from all angles.

[BeyondGeography]

29. That would be best; but the problem is the gun lobby loves misdirection plays

We need Hollywood, pharma and every other real and/or imagined party at the table. This is all so complex, nothing can ever get done...

[librechik]

3. no credible link has said Adam was on any medication. This is pure speculation.

and unfair to all the good mental health meds do in the world.

[obamanut2012]

4. Debunked -- please self delete

[No Compromise]

12. this has not been debunked- Business Insider is a credible source

you may call them with your questions

[LisaL]

15. All these sources are going back to the claim in Daily News that has seens been deleted.

I have no idea what else to tell you on this matter.

[green for victory]

20. the answer to the question of why it was deleted

i would have thought to be of interest to many here, but not so much

it's like a coverup or something

I'm thoroughly mystified. Do you care why it was deleted?

[SidDithers]

24. Business Insider links back to the NY Daily News article...

that scrubbed all mention of the alleged uncle and the alleged anti-psychotic.

You were told all this yesterday, in the thread you had locked:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022011674

Yet you continue to push the conspiracy theory, without any evidence at all, that the shooter was taking anti-psychotics. Why is that?

"you may call them with your questions"

No, you posted the fucking article. You answer the questions.

Sid

[green for victory]

5. Iloperidone

Iloperidone, also known as Fanapt, Fanapta, and previously known as Zomaril, is an atypical antipsychotic for the treatment of schizophrenia. It was approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for use in the United States on May 6, 2009.

Hoechst Marion Roussel Inc. made initial inquiries into the drug; however, in May 1996, they discontinued research, and in June 1997 gave research rights to Titan Pharmaceuticals. Titan then handed over worldwide development, manufacturing and marketing rights to Novartis in August 1998. On June 9, 2004, Titan Pharmaceuticals announced that the Phase III development rights have been acquired by Vanda Pharmaceuticals. The original launch date was scheduled for 2002. On November 27, 2007, Vanda Pharmaceuticals announced that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) had accepted their New Drug Application for iloperidone, confirming the application is ready for FDA review and approval.[5] On July 28, 2008, the FDA issued a "Not Approvable" letter to Vanda Pharmaceuticals concerning the drug, stating that further trials are required before a decision can be made concerning marketed usage of iloperidone.[6]

Iloperidone won FDA approval for use treating schizophrenia in the United States on May 6, 2009.[7]



no one has the beginnings of a clue as to the long term effects of this drug.

Since prozac has only been around since 1987 no one has any idea what the long term effects are of even the oldest SSRI on the "market".

[No Compromise]

6. link-sorry

http://www.businessinsider.com/adam-lanza-taking-antipsychotic-fanapt-2012-12


There seems to be an army of people telling us to shut up about this.

How about you all go read another thread that you are interested in, and let people who do want to discuss this talk about it?

It is still a free country, free speech....what is your purpose in shutting down this discussion?

[ananda]

9. So Adam Lanza's uncle said that Adam was taking Fanapt..

.. according to one source.

It could be true, but we do need more verification.

[obamanut2012]

10. Debunked

[LisaL]

11. Do you not realize that the claim about this drug has been deleted from the Daily News article?

Free speech is one thing, spreading misinformation is another.

[MattBaggins]

13. An Army of people

is trying to point out that you are repeating false information.

[Kelvin Mace]

14. Couple of things...

Inside the piece though they report Adam Lanza's uncle said the boy was prescribed Fanapt, a controversial anti-psychotic medicine.

Business Insider is quoting another news source who says that Adam's uncle told them he was taking the drug.

I like my sources a bit more direct. I'll await the toxicology reports.

That said, a pet peeve: Free speech is only protected from government censorship or regulation. Folks disagreeing with you isn't protected.

You may be perfectly correct in your assessment of the situation, but folks have the right to disagree, though I would prefer such disagreement remain civil.

[green for victory]

18. it's bizarre

many would rather demonize the kids and their families and protect pills made by pharma than ask the question "is there a link"?

I simply cannot understand it. I'd expect it at "other places"!

It's like a religion or something. Very bizarre. But you're helping to wake up some, good work.

[jeff47]

26. You don't understand it because you are continuing to assume he was taking it

We can't make that assumption.

First, the source has deleted that claim.

Second, there's been lots and lots of bad reporting on this story. Remember when his mom was supposed to be a teacher at the school? Remember when the assault rifle was supposed to have remained in his trunk?

We don't actually know what, if anything, he was on at this time.

[SidDithers]

27. It's bizarre how some would just make shit up to promote an anti medicine agenda..

oh, wait. It's not that strange at all.

Sid

[LisaL]

7. Quit spreading misinformation.

It has already been explained to you that interview with "uncle" has been deleted from the article.

[tama]

19. Finnish schoolshootings

There's been two major incidents, in both cases the shooter had been ordered anti-psychotics.

[green for victory]

22. here's a lot more with source article

http://ssristories.com/index.php?sort=where&p=

[SidDithers]

21. This shit again? Prove that he was taking Fanapt...

otherwise, all of this is conspiracy theory bullshit.

Didn't you already have one post locked for posting this nonsense?

Here's the link to the fucking NY Daily News article linked in your "Business Insider" article.

No mention of the uncle or Fanapt. It was scrubbed because they, and you, have been duped by someone pretending to be the uncle.



Sid

[green for victory]

23. are those that are interested in silencing discussion on this topic

more interested in a political agenda than they are the truth?

Certainly not...(...)

[jeff47]

28. Well, considering the claim that he was on the drug has been withdrawn

One might want to consider that claim was false.

Like the claim that his mom worked at the school.
And the claim that the assault rifle wasn't used in the attack.
And a whole lot of other things the press has gotten wrong.

[IcyPeas]

25. we won't know what, if anything, he was on until they do his autopsy.

it's all speculation at this point.