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applegrove

(126,819 posts)
Sun May 11, 2025, 05:07 PM May 11

Why do we keep blaming other countries for "stealing" our jobs... when it was greedy American billionaires who sold them

BeSeriousUSA 🐝 (@beserioususa.bsky.social) 2025-05-11T17:53:02.984Z


The Quiet Uprising:

Why do we keep blaming other countries for “stealing” our jobs…
when it was greedy American billionaires who sold them overseas for a quick buck?

They didn’t get stolen — they got outsourced.
Not by China. Not by Mexico.
By CEOs who chose profit over people.
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Why do we keep blaming other countries for "stealing" our jobs... when it was greedy American billionaires who sold them (Original Post) applegrove May 11 OP
All paths lead back to American greed. Irish_Dem May 11 #1
Correction, if I may.. whathehell May 11 #2
Wasn't it Ross Perot DENVERPOPS May 12 #36
Obama and Clinton tried to negotiate better trade agreements, they were bashed by certain Dems, giving us trump 1. Silent Type May 11 #3
Yeah like Obama's proposed Trans Pacific Partnership IronLionZion May 11 #25
You are absolutely right angryxyouth May 11 #27
Exactly. And one of our Senators flat ass lied that the agreement was going to be hidden from public for 5 years, Silent Type May 11 #30
I've been saying this for years. LoisB May 11 #4
re: greed TnDem May 11 #5
Yes DENVERPOPS May 12 #37
Mitt Romney did this too. Squaredeal May 11 #6
yes. It has been this way... always.. Srkdqltr May 11 #7
"If it can be made in China, it will be made in China. If it can be coded in India, it will be coded in India." dalton99a May 11 #8
Has the Trump family brought their product manufacturing back to America? Norrrm May 11 #9
Every accusation is a confession. usonian May 11 #10
"We Can't Make It Here Anymore" - James McGurty Shipwack May 11 #11
Great song! Thanks for posting. raccoon May 11 #28
By the Ceo's in league with the Govt ToxMarz May 11 #12
The simplest DENVERPOPS May 12 #38
A business model popularized by GE CEO Jack Welch maspaha May 11 #13
Who famously said he wished he could float his factories around on a barge looking for the cheapest labor. Hassin Bin Sober May 11 #18
Most Democrats know the jobs were sent away by a bunch of fat cats who wanted to get fatter Warpy May 11 #14
Also to escape the environmental markodochartaigh May 11 #17
Damn straight! They made millions selling out US companies Evolve Dammit May 11 #15
It was repukes! SheltieLover May 11 #16
American consumers have enjoyed much lower prices on nearly everything they buy for decades... CaptainTruth May 11 #19
Focusing on the price of everything,while denying the value of that which is priceless. BattleRow May 11 #20
But government is the only entity big and powerful enough to curb the overreach of capitalism maspaha May 11 #21
And keeps moving the goal post. BattleRow May 11 #22
In my younger years DENVERPOPS May 12 #39
Made in Japan.. Oops Japans wages went up LiberalArkie May 11 #23
Just like the greed in riverbendviewgal May 11 #24
They LIE! Joinfortmill May 11 #26
Why does this board keep repeating Trump talking points? WSHazel May 11 #29
+1. Totally agree 3 is the most important. No way I support screwing poor people worldwide through America First Silent Type May 11 #31
This is why Libertarianism doesn't work in practice Ruby the Liberal May 12 #32
Great question ck4829 May 12 #33
Unemployment is low, and job creation rate good Johonny May 12 #34
This! It's Linda ladeewolf May 12 #41
Because they took er jerbs! LudwigPastorius May 12 #35
You got it! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E May 12 #40
I'd say it's some of each. thesquanderer May 12 #42

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
36. Wasn't it Ross Perot
Mon May 12, 2025, 12:28 PM
May 12

who predicted a "Giant Sucking Sound" so many years ago..........Perfectly logical given what we were watching.....
And nobody listened......

Silent Type

(10,490 posts)
3. Obama and Clinton tried to negotiate better trade agreements, they were bashed by certain Dems, giving us trump 1.
Sun May 11, 2025, 05:18 PM
May 11

IronLionZion

(49,461 posts)
25. Yeah like Obama's proposed Trans Pacific Partnership
Sun May 11, 2025, 08:00 PM
May 11

there was blatant disinformation shared frequently right here on DU.

TPP was meant to counter China's influence by organizing with the smaller countries in Asia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership

Silent Type

(10,490 posts)
30. Exactly. And one of our Senators flat ass lied that the agreement was going to be hidden from public for 5 years,
Sun May 11, 2025, 08:23 PM
May 11

when laws required the final document to be released and approved by Congress.

Doubt I’ll ever get over that, not to mention mention what 8 years of trump will do to country.

Hope we don’t similarly screw ourselves in midterms.

TnDem

(1,046 posts)
5. re: greed
Sun May 11, 2025, 05:28 PM
May 11

The problem is that there has to be legislation in place such as NAFTA and GATT that allows greed to be fertilized into a massive beanstalk in the first place.

Both parties are to fault allowing this, which is sad on our part.

Squaredeal

(665 posts)
6. Mitt Romney did this too.
Sun May 11, 2025, 05:46 PM
May 11

Bought Staples, then got China to make cheap products for them, causing their American manufacturers to shut down.

dalton99a

(89,434 posts)
8. "If it can be made in China, it will be made in China. If it can be coded in India, it will be coded in India."
Sun May 11, 2025, 06:00 PM
May 11

"If an Indian can answer the phone in English, we'll move technical support/customer service to India."



usonian

(19,088 posts)
10. Every accusation is a confession.
Sun May 11, 2025, 06:32 PM
May 11

Last edited Sun May 11, 2025, 10:05 PM - Edit history (1)

It’s always someone else’s fault.

ToxMarz

(2,495 posts)
12. By the Ceo's in league with the Govt
Sun May 11, 2025, 06:37 PM
May 11

mostly republicans on this front. The legislature and executive branch need to make the rules of the game conducive to this happening for the businesses to take advantage of it.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
38. The simplest
Mon May 12, 2025, 12:33 PM
May 12

definition of Fascism is the merger of Government and Corporations......

It is becoming more obvious every day that Corporations and Putin are the ones truly running the Republican Party and Trump

maspaha

(560 posts)
13. A business model popularized by GE CEO Jack Welch
Sun May 11, 2025, 06:47 PM
May 11

…can’t stand the ba$+@ rd…
…just sayin’

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,154 posts)
18. Who famously said he wished he could float his factories around on a barge looking for the cheapest labor.
Sun May 11, 2025, 07:17 PM
May 11

All while the cashed billions in government contracts and subsidies.

Warpy

(113,693 posts)
14. Most Democrats know the jobs were sent away by a bunch of fat cats who wanted to get fatter
Sun May 11, 2025, 06:50 PM
May 11

so instead of upgrading equipment and facilities here, they just built shiny new ones offshore. Instead of continuing to pay the most productive workforce on the planet, they paid a lot less for a less productive workforce plush shipping costs on top ot it, mostly because they hated unions, even if their businesses had never had to deal with a union.

Republicans are the ones pushing the "they stole our jobs" narrative because whipping up hate of the "other" suits their purposes, they talk about punishing other countries with tariffs when it's the US population who will have to shoulder the cost of them.

It's a jorse shit narrative, but we knew that. The problem is that so many hateful Republicans are buying it.

markodochartaigh

(3,349 posts)
17. Also to escape the environmental
Sun May 11, 2025, 07:13 PM
May 11

and labor regulations in the US that are meant to keep people and our environment safe.

CaptainTruth

(7,769 posts)
19. American consumers have enjoyed much lower prices on nearly everything they buy for decades...
Sun May 11, 2025, 07:26 PM
May 11

...due to outsourcing.

It's odd that no one ever seems to talk about that.

Insatiable consumer desire for "cheap stuff" will always drive the quest for less expensive manufacturing & create opportunities for businesses (& business owners) who want to capitalize on that desire.

maspaha

(560 posts)
21. But government is the only entity big and powerful enough to curb the overreach of capitalism
Sun May 11, 2025, 07:35 PM
May 11

…and capitalism has unfairly redrawn the playing field

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
39. In my younger years
Mon May 12, 2025, 12:36 PM
May 12

Corporations used to be in a race to the top, trying to make the best......now they have been in a race to the bottom..(as in Bottom Line Profitability)

LiberalArkie

(18,601 posts)
23. Made in Japan.. Oops Japans wages went up
Sun May 11, 2025, 07:46 PM
May 11

Made in Korea. Oops Koreas wages went up
Made in Taiwan. Oops Taiwans wages went up
Made in China. Oops Chinas wages went up
Made in India, Bangladesh, Viet Nam.

WSHazel

(527 posts)
29. Why does this board keep repeating Trump talking points?
Sun May 11, 2025, 08:19 PM
May 11

Free trade:

1) Creates more American jobs than it loses,
2) Keeps domestic prices low,
3) Makes the world a much more peaceful place. This is the most important.

Free trade DOESN'T:

1) Result in a net loss of American jobs.

Tightly restricted trade is a critical tool for any dictator.

By claiming free trade is bad, we are validating Trump's talking point.

Silent Type

(10,490 posts)
31. +1. Totally agree 3 is the most important. No way I support screwing poor people worldwide through America First
Sun May 11, 2025, 08:58 PM
May 11

on steroids. This is one big world and we are a small part of it.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,513 posts)
32. This is why Libertarianism doesn't work in practice
Mon May 12, 2025, 08:50 AM
May 12

No one has ever been able to point to a sustained economy under that governing model - at any point in world history - because it isn't functional. Its all about greed and 'whoever dies with the most toys wins'.

And thats why Vance scares me more than Trump. Trump is a man child stomping his feet and demanding fealty as he spends $10s of millions of taxpayer money a month playing golf while blathering about dolls and pencils.

Vance is in the pocket of Peter Thiel and the like who won't be happy until they hoover up the Treasury into their own crypto accounts.

Trump is erratic. That crew is dangerous.

Johonny

(24,164 posts)
34. Unemployment is low, and job creation rate good
Mon May 12, 2025, 11:36 AM
May 12

So the whole talking point is stupid.

The problem isn't jobs, it is good paying jobs. More to the point, it is the class warfare as the rich keep wages low and gain most of the benefits from labor. People are working, but the benefits of that labor are becoming more and more concentrated in the few. This is a huge problem, the major problem.

Linda ladeewolf

(966 posts)
41. This! It's
Mon May 12, 2025, 03:56 PM
May 12

Very difficult to be struggling with buying food and paying bills and think clearly about anything. I’ve been there. You blame anyone that’s handy. In the end though, it was the bosses who wouldn’t pay fairly unless you were a buddy. And people in charge that cut pay so they can have fat bonuses.

thesquanderer

(12,685 posts)
42. I'd say it's some of each.
Mon May 12, 2025, 03:56 PM
May 12

Yes, American companies outsourced jobs to countries with cheaper labor. But also, foreign companies themselves have sometimes created better and/or cheaper products, which stole market share from American companies. So there really are two ways we lost jobs to other countries.

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