Malcolm Kenyatta vs David Hogg?

[elleng]

Had no idea this was happening.

[msongs]

1. what was happening?

[elleng]

3. Disagreement about who should be

vice-chair.

Was just on MSNBC.

[Meowmee]

2. Yes, MK is fed up with DH now

Because DH is misrepresenting what is happening and the focus is all on him etc. when it should be on the party/elections etc. MK also said he got around 289 votes vs 215 that DH received.

[Nixie]

6. Malcolm was just on MSNBC and was absolutely powerful

about the untruthful messaging Hogg is engaging in. He’s not having it and is not going to let David get away with this.

One of Malcolm ‘s last statements, barely paraphrased: “Changing the Democratic Party doesn’t mean sitting on the sidelines saying Democrats suck. “

People are sick and tired of this undermining messaging when there’s a whole lot more to choose to criticize going on with republicans. I’m a big Malcolm fan — he is awesome!

[sheshe2]

8. Dayum.

I am really liking Malcom!

One of Malcolm ‘s last statements, barely paraphrased: “Changing the Democratic Party doesn’t mean sitting on the sidelines saying Democrats suck. “

[Nixie]

11. Me, too, she! He was very impressive. He was brutal, but focused

and he is right about what our party needs to be messaging (not what David’s focus is).

[sheshe2]

12. I was out of he room and only caught a few seconds of it.

He and people like him are the ones we need right now. What will work are the ones that want to build up and not tear it all down.

Thanks, Nixie,

[Nixie]

13. ......

[brush]

4. Hogg has turned out to be such a disappointment...

with him and his PAC trying to primary incumbent Dems with some newbie who hasn't even proved they can beat another Dem in primary, much less a rethug in the general election.

And this when we're the party out of power and poised to gain multiple House seats, as is historically done in the mid-terms...unless someone full of himself fucks it up.

[msongs]

5. how many offices has DH run for and won to provide direct services and benefit to the public? oh wait he does have a

$20 million dollar PAC to play with

[Sewa]

16. Donations to Hoggs pac will go through the roof

After he get railroaded out of the DNC. 😜💀

[Arazi]

17. Ayup. Old establishment Dems are seriously misreading the room

[W_HAMILTON]

25. And that's just donations from Republicans!

[Sewa]

27. Republicans fund AIPAC and Democratic candidates

Take campaign donations from them. Do you have a problem with that?

[W_HAMILTON]

30. Please provide a list of these Democratic candidates and their Republican donors.

And the purist progressive wing of the left is the one that has pushed the idea of good money vs bad money, so if they are going to accept the same sorts of donations as those dastardly corporatist neoliberal blah blah blah Democrats, that doesn't make them much different now, does it? I guess both parties everyone is the same!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

7. The rules of the Democratic Party need to be complied with

The party screwed up and elected two males for Executive Vice President when the party rules require one male and one female Executive Vice President. If Hogg can get more votes that Malcome Kenyatta, then he can serve. Here is a good explanation from Malcome Kenyatta

Link to tweet

Kenyatta is trying to get this issue resolved quickly

Link to tweet

NEW: DNC Vice Chair Malcolm Kenyatta has asked Chairman Ken Martin to call an emergency meeting of full DNC to vote on resolution that would toss out his and David Hogg's election.

The first ballot in a potential re-run race would be Kenyatta v Hogg for male slot as vice chair.

[JustAnotherGen]

10. The three at large

One Male.
One Female.
One of either gender.

Kenyatta is being a good sport about this. He beat Hogg by a large margin.

Blanco was the woman elected, he is the male elected.

It should be Hogg and the other three candidates on the new ballot.

Kenyatta received 298 votes on the second ballot.
Hogg only had 214.

[JustAnotherGen]

9. Watched the Weeknight

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Because he was on. He wants the election date pulled in and clearly explained what the Democratic Committee does. They get candidates elected. They don't select primary candidates and weigh in on races.

Let the Primary candidates duke it out and in the GE - you get your candidates elected.

The Candidate drives their platform and messaging - the DNC Supports them.

[LexVegas]

14. Get Hogg out of there. nt

[Arazi]

15. Dems in disarray. Can we not frame this as adversarial?

Honestly Dem leadership is failing here. Why the fuck are they allowing/stoking this division?

We need young Dems together and not adversarial.

This is a total failure at the DNC (and another indicator that the old timers need replacing 🤬 )

[Nixie]

18. You obviously didn't listen to Kenyatta. "Old timers need replacing."

Your takes sound uninformed about the dynamics of what is happening. I’m glad Malcolm is stepping in to keep this misinformation from morphing anymore. David could stop this, too. He should do the right thing.

[Arazi]

19. The OP is framing this as adversarial

Take it up with them

[Nixie]

20. Wrong again. That's not what the OP is about. You should inform

your opinion instead of parroting the emo talking points that have been untruthfully framed as bait for divisiveness.

Malcolm is calling David out now, but it’s about David’s actions.

[Arazi]

21. "Malcom Kenyatta vs David Hogg"

That literally the OP

We’re done. You’ve got some weird animus about this. Feel free to have the last word

[Nixie]

22. Wrong again. The uninformed nature of your attacks are the

“weird animus.” It’s obvious you are very invested in the emo bullshit attacks instead of the actual dynamics of what’s happening.

[rogue emissary]

23. Kenyatta appearance on MSNBC

Nice to find out the facts.
Challenge started in Feb (before Hogg's interviews)
It was initiated by someone that lost and not the committee.

I'll be more skeptical of Hogg's statements in the future.

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[tritsofme]

24. Hogg is proving himself to be a bad faith actor, and is showing exactly why he does not belong in DNC leadership.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

26. Malcolm Kenyatta: David Hogg has 'very casual relationship with the truth'

I saw this interview last night on MSNBC. I trust Malcome Kenyatta.

Link to tweet

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5302200-malcolm-kenyatta-david-hogg-dnc-vice-chair-election-redo/

Democratic National Committee (DNC) Vice Chair Malcolm Kenyatta slammed his fellow vice chair, David Hogg, on Wednesday, disputing the reason the gun control activist has said is why they may need to run for their positions again.

Kenyatta argued in an interview on MSNBC that he has tried to ignore what Hogg has been saying recently to avoid party infighting and division, but Hogg’s statement after the DNC’s Credentials Committee voted in favor of holding a new vice chair election “pushed me over the edge.”

“David has a very casual relationship with the truth,” he told host Symone Sanders Townsend. “And he has not been truthful on so many points that have been raised on this show.”

The Pennsylvania state legislator added that he’s “frustrated” with the decision to hold the election again given that he received considerably more votes than necessary to clinch one of the vice chair positions, but he respects it.

“But David’s first statement out of the gate was, here’s the Democratic Party doing some maniacal thing to push me out because of what he’s doing with his PAC,” Kenyatta said. “David knows that that is not true.”

[pinkstarburst]

28. Call me crazy

but if the DNC screwed this up procedurally, is there a reason they can't simply ADD the woman who was left out incorrectly as an additional vice chair? Not saying they should have extra vice chairs every year, but it seems like no matter how this plays out, it is going to piss some people off if either David Hogg or Malcolm Kenyatta are removed, and perhaps it would be a better resolution to just live with the mistake, keep them both and add the woman who should have gotten the spot. Then follow the rules going forward.

[Renew Deal]

29. I don't know but...

It probably requires bylaw changes and wouldn't solve the issue of the invalid election

[Happy Hoosier]

31. Oh nothing... just shooting ourselves in the foot...

Again.