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highplainsdem

(62,134 posts)
Fri May 16, 2025, 02:03 PM May 2025

In Fox News interview set to air tonight, Trump says "dirty cop" Comey knew what 86 meant, was calling for assassination

AL.com article - https://www.al.com/politics/2025/05/trump-says-dirty-cop-former-fbi-director-meant-assassination-with-86-47-seashells-picture.html - that I also posted about in LBN:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143460176

President Donald Trump said there was no doubt what former FBI Director James Comey was implying when he posted a beach photo showing seashells arranged with the message “86 47.?

“He knew exactly what he meant, a child knows what that meant … that meant assassination,“ Trump told Fox News’ Bret Baier during an interview on ”Special Report” set to air Friday night. “And it says it loud and clear.”

-snip-

“Now, he wasn’t very competent but he was competent enough to know what that meant. And he did it [posted the photo] for a reason, and he was hit so hard because people like me and they like what’s happening to our country … He’s calling for the assassination of the president."

-snip-

“I think it’s a terrible thing, and when you add his history to that, if he had a clean history – he doesn’t, he’s a dirty cop …



Aaron Rupar post with video on Bluesky:

Trump on Comey: "He knew exactly what that meant ... it meant assassination. It says it loud and clear ... he's calling for the assassination of the president ... it's gonna be up to Pam ... he's a dirty cop."

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-05-16T13:13:22.753Z



Rupar's identical post on Twitter is in reply 1 of the KBN thread.
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In Fox News interview set to air tonight, Trump says "dirty cop" Comey knew what 86 meant, was calling for assassination (Original Post) highplainsdem May 2025 OP
This is topic #1 on rightwing X today underpants May 2025 #1
Well at least they're off Pres Biden for now.... Lovie777 May 2025 #3
I'd been searching for AI and copyright news earlier, hadn't looked at the Trending topics on X. Just highplainsdem May 2025 #9
That is crap ..... I didn't know what the writing of 8646 ... 86 47 means. What the crud !!!!!!!! Trueblue1968 May 2025 #15
It's apparently been political shorthand for impeach (46 Biden or 47 Trump) for years, and MAGA highplainsdem May 2025 #16
They live for the next exaggeration and extrapolation underpants May 2025 #23
We are living in the upside world clevergrrrl May 2025 #34
Stupid tRump is stepping on his own story of his mid-east tour. Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #2
Trump should be thanking Comey for helping him defeat Hillary surfered May 2025 #5
Trump only "knows" because someone told him. Ms. Toad May 2025 #4
Good point. And leaving out the normal meaning while explaining it to Trump would probably have been deliberate. highplainsdem May 2025 #17
Yup. n/t Ms. Toad May 2025 #21
He was told once they had to 86 kacekwl May 2025 #30
. Ms. Toad May 2025 #37
I remember hanging Pres Obama in Effigy Conjuay May 2025 #6
Wrong again. moondust May 2025 #7
I wish that were true, and the "kill" meaning is rarely meant, but Wikipedia cites a slang highplainsdem May 2025 #13
I have never ever heard it referred to that. Ever. Self Esteem May 2025 #25
I don't doubt you at all. It's not the normal usage. But Trump and his followers will do everything highplainsdem May 2025 #28
Still doesn't change the meaning... Self Esteem May 2025 #29
According to Groc AI womanofthehills May 2025 #36
"particularly in organized crime" moondust May 2025 #38
Video from Rupar's Bluesky post Dennis Donovan May 2025 #8
I am your retribution malaise May 2025 #10
How do we know it's not Lh98? Abolishinist May 2025 #11
If that was true, he'd address it quietly rather than publicizing a call for his own assassination unblock May 2025 #12
86: Maxwell Smart. (ref. "Get Smart" for us fossils.) nt Buns_of_Fire May 2025 #14
Interesting, I'm familiar with Maxwell Smart but not aware of the '86' origin. Abolishinist May 2025 #24
I thought a "dirty cop" was someone who took bribes....hmmmmm, reminds me of someone else. Raven May 2025 #18
He's looking for validation.... kentuck May 2025 #19
You Know Is Tr**p Posted Such A Photo And There Was An Uproar Around It...... global1 May 2025 #20
Who cares? Prairie Gates May 2025 #22
My father was a ham radio operator . bmbmd May 2025 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author highplainsdem May 2025 #35
I've only ever heard it used by bartenders. jls4561 May 2025 #27
yeah...me too stillcool May 2025 #32
In a restaurant.. whathehell May 2025 #33
86 46 stickers and other kacekwl May 2025 #31
A beach photo? MorbidButterflyTat May 2025 #39

highplainsdem

(62,134 posts)
9. I'd been searching for AI and copyright news earlier, hadn't looked at the Trending topics on X. Just
Fri May 16, 2025, 02:23 PM
May 2025

did and saw RW troll and podcaster Jack Posobiec, who claims Comey was openly calling for assassination, being reminded of his "86 46" post in 2022.






One of the people reminding Posobiec of that post was Frank Luntz:


Trueblue1968

(19,251 posts)
15. That is crap ..... I didn't know what the writing of 8646 ... 86 47 means. What the crud !!!!!!!!
Fri May 16, 2025, 02:35 PM
May 2025

highplainsdem

(62,134 posts)
16. It's apparently been political shorthand for impeach (46 Biden or 47 Trump) for years, and MAGA
Fri May 16, 2025, 02:46 PM
May 2025

loved 86 46 merch. But I just saw a thread where a Trump supporter was reminded of that, and they claimed "it's different now" because of the assassination attempt last year, and "Comey knew that."

clevergrrrl

(168 posts)
34. We are living in the upside world
Fri May 16, 2025, 05:37 PM
May 2025

the will promote the most ridiculous notions as loyalty tests, it's the constant bullshit we've been fed since he latest took over.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
2. Stupid tRump is stepping on his own story of his mid-east tour.
Fri May 16, 2025, 02:10 PM
May 2025

So much work arranging all the deals and the entourage of CEOs and now he's pumping up this.

Ms. Toad

(38,634 posts)
4. Trump only "knows" because someone told him.
Fri May 16, 2025, 02:15 PM
May 2025

And that someone forgot to add that normally it simply means dumping - not assassinating.

highplainsdem

(62,134 posts)
17. Good point. And leaving out the normal meaning while explaining it to Trump would probably have been deliberate.
Fri May 16, 2025, 02:49 PM
May 2025

kacekwl

(9,144 posts)
30. He was told once they had to 86
Fri May 16, 2025, 04:22 PM
May 2025

the Big Macs because they were all gone. He had the cook killed sooo....

Conjuay

(3,067 posts)
6. I remember hanging Pres Obama in Effigy
Fri May 16, 2025, 02:20 PM
May 2025

They seemed to think that was no big deal.
I guess these are
"Death Knell sea shells by the sea shore".

moondust

(21,286 posts)
7. Wrong again.
Fri May 16, 2025, 02:20 PM
May 2025

To my knowledge "86" has NEVER meant anything as serious as assassination. NEVER.

He's just making up libellous shit again. He should have been sued for libel or slander a thousand times already.

highplainsdem

(62,134 posts)
13. I wish that were true, and the "kill" meaning is rarely meant, but Wikipedia cites a slang
Fri May 16, 2025, 02:33 PM
May 2025

dictionary published in 2005 and other slang dictionaries for that rare meaning:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/86_(term)

According to Cassell's Dictionary of Slang, "to 86" also means "to kill, to murder; to execute judicially," likely referring to the size of a standard grave being 2.5 feet wide by 8 feet long and 6 feet deep.[8][9] Other slang dictionaries confirm this definition.[10][11][12]


Snopes: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/86/
 

Self Esteem

(2,248 posts)
25. I have never ever heard it referred to that. Ever.
Fri May 16, 2025, 03:49 PM
May 2025

Ever.

Never.

Ever.

In all my time on this earth, never ever.

And just to be clear: ever.

And just to be clearer: I used it all the time ten or so years ago when I was a bartender and I had someone removed.

"You keep that up and you're 86'd from here. "

Never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever heard anyone use it to mean murder. Ever. Never never ever ever.

highplainsdem

(62,134 posts)
28. I don't doubt you at all. It's not the normal usage. But Trump and his followers will do everything
Fri May 16, 2025, 04:00 PM
May 2025

they can to exploit it and harass Comey, even if they don't arrest and charge him. And Comey's life will be at risk because of MAGA craziness.

 

Self Esteem

(2,248 posts)
29. Still doesn't change the meaning...
Fri May 16, 2025, 04:10 PM
May 2025

Or the fact conservatives used the exact same phrase for Biden.

womanofthehills

(10,988 posts)
36. According to Groc AI
Fri May 16, 2025, 06:18 PM
May 2025

“The number 86, in its most common usage, does not directly mean "hit job." It is primarily American English slang, originating in the hospitality industry, meaning to remove, eject, or get rid of something or someone, often because an item is out of stock or a person is unwelcome. For example, a restaurant might "86" a menu item if it’s sold out, or a bartender might "86" a disruptive customer by kicking them out. The term has also been used more broadly to mean discarding or eliminating something, including in military jargon to refer to scrapping equipment or canceling a mission.[](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/86_%28term%29)[](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/86_%28term%29)

However, there is a specific context where "86" has been associated with a more violent meaning, including the idea of a "hit job" (assassination or murder). According to *Cassell's Dictionary of Slang* and other slang sources, "to 86" can mean "to kill, to murder, or to execute judicially," possibly derived from the dimensions of a standard grave (8 feet long, 6 feet deep). Additionally, a theory from organized crime circles suggests "86" refers to taking someone "eight miles out of town and six feet under," implying murder. This interpretation gained attention in 2025 when former FBI Director James Comey posted an Instagram photo of a seashell formation resembling "8647," which some critics interpreted as a veiled threat against the 47th President, Donald Trump, based on the mafia-related "86" meaning. Comey later deleted the post, stating he was unaware of the violent connotation.[](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/86_%2

While the "hit job" meaning exists in certain slang contexts, particularly in organized crime or sensationalized interpretations, it is not the primary or most widely recognized definition of "86." The term’s usage as "hit job" is more niche and often tied to speculative or conspiratorial narratives, as seen in some X posts and media discussions. In contrast, the hospitality and general "get rid of" meanings are far more common and historically documented since the 1930s.[](https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/eighty-six-meaning-origin)[](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/86/)

So, while "86" *can* mean "hit job" in specific, rare contexts, it’s not its standard or default meaning. Always consider the context in which the term is used to determine its intended sense.”

Dennis Donovan

(31,059 posts)
8. Video from Rupar's Bluesky post
Fri May 16, 2025, 02:20 PM
May 2025
Aaron Rupar
‪@atrupar.com‬
Trump on Comey: "He knew exactly what that meant ... it meant assassination. It says it loud and clear ... he's calling for the assassination of the president ... it's gonna be up to Pam ... he's a dirty cop."

May 16, 2025 at 9:13 AM


Trump on Comey: "He knew exactly what that meant ... it meant assassination. It says it loud and clear ... he's calling for the assassination of the president ... it's gonna be up to Pam ... he's a dirty cop."

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-05-16T13:13:22.753Z

unblock

(56,198 posts)
12. If that was true, he'd address it quietly rather than publicizing a call for his own assassination
Fri May 16, 2025, 02:32 PM
May 2025

The mere fact that he's talking about it publicly proves he knows it's a lie.

Abolishinist

(2,956 posts)
24. Interesting, I'm familiar with Maxwell Smart but not aware of the '86' origin.
Fri May 16, 2025, 03:47 PM
May 2025

Maxwell "Max" Smart, Agent 86, (Don Adams) is the central character of the series. Despite being a top-secret government agent, he is absurdly clumsy. Yet Smart is also resourceful, skilled in hand-to-hand combat, a proficient marksman, and incredibly lucky; all of this makes him one of CONTROL's top agents.

Brooks decided on Smart's code number, 86, as a reference to the slang term, meaning to forcibly eject someone, such as a patron from a bar or casino.

Raven

(14,275 posts)
18. I thought a "dirty cop" was someone who took bribes....hmmmmm, reminds me of someone else.
Fri May 16, 2025, 02:57 PM
May 2025

global1

(26,507 posts)
20. You Know Is Tr**p Posted Such A Photo And There Was An Uproar Around It......
Fri May 16, 2025, 03:21 PM
May 2025

he would say he was making a joke. It's just a joke folks. Just a joke.

bmbmd

(3,109 posts)
26. My father was a ham radio operator .
Fri May 16, 2025, 03:54 PM
May 2025

Correct me if I’m wrong, but don’t hams use “86” for “goodbye”?

Response to bmbmd (Reply #26)

stillcool

(34,407 posts)
32. yeah...me too
Fri May 16, 2025, 04:26 PM
May 2025

and in restaurants when chefs run out of something they 86 it. You're either cut off from the bar, or you can't have the chowder.

whathehell

(30,468 posts)
33. In a restaurant..
Fri May 16, 2025, 05:15 PM
May 2025

86 meant something on that day's menu was no longer available -- Waitstaff heard it all the time.


MorbidButterflyTat

(4,507 posts)
39. A beach photo?
Fri May 16, 2025, 07:09 PM
May 2025

With seashells? What's he following Comey on Facebook or Instagram?

Doesn't everybody put hits on people in a beach photo with seashells? JFC!

What an asshole.

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