Wonder if we Dems could do more than simply say "Trump bad!' and propose our own economic solution?

[dutch777]

I am deeply disheartened that we have all the ammo the House budget plan gives us and yet do not make a solid logical counter proposal NOW that 1) shifts taxes to the rich and corporations; 2) lowers taxes on the poor and middle class; 3) has baked in national debt reduction and 4) fully funds critical programs like Medicaid, FAA, TSA, etc. Carville's strategy of just let them keep digging seems off.

[relayerbob]

1. Um, our candidate did just that

and Carville doesn't speak for Democrats, certainly not this one. He's been obsolete for a decade or more.

[Blue Full Moon]

10. Not really the media warped it and then claimed they didn't know what she stood for.

Advertising and cards relentlessly sent until you voted. And they knew that you voted. Do nothing approach is why Hillary Clinton lost. Seems like the democratic party doesn't understand how propaganda and advertising works.

[dutch777]

14. I am not saying Kamala didn't try. She did well for having such a short runway. But that was eons ago politically.

We need to re-energize and build on that and put it out there TODAY.

[marble falls]

2. Don't be shy. It's easy, so go on, step up! Lead!

[edhopper]

3. Both Biden and Harris

had a well laid out economic plan that helped the lower and middle class.
People didn't care to look at it.
More important to worry about prison trans operations.

[Prairie Gates]

4. Is that what's happening?

[Lovie777]

5. Economy............

from my neck of the woods, and we know shithole musk republicans are crazy evil.

[Keepthesoulalive]

6. We did that

They didn’t care economic anxiety was a cover. If they cared they would be apoplectic . He is killing the American dream and the American myth.

[dutch777]

15. GOP may not care but the voters certainly seemed to and still seem to so let's leverage that and beat GOP over the head

with it to our advantage focusing on 2026.

[betsuni]

7. The "Democrats have no economic message or policies only 'we're not Trump'/ignore the working class/do nothing"

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bullshit lie anti-Democratic attacks got lonely and needed attention what with everybody talking about Jake Tapper's new Biden bashing book.

[dutch777]

16. Clearly we need to fix that. As to Tapper and Biden, we need to own our mistakes and move on, not ignore & do same old

[betsuni]

17. Sorry, fix what?

[dutch777]

18. Not having a comprehensive economic/budget proposal and just saying "Trump bad" and ignoring working class

[betsuni]

19. Not true. Democrats always have economic plans. Why would anyone think anybody's

just saying "Trump bad"? Democratic policies always help the working/middle class. Who are you thinking of? Please give examples.

No Democrats vote to eliminate the social safety net, zero votes for Trump tax cuts, zero for repealing the ACA. What policies do Democrats have that ignore the working class?

[Silent Type]

8. At some point we have to stop running against trump and for something. Not sure we will though.

[dutch777]

12. That is exactly my concern. We need to stop playing his game and defense and be the next good idea...

...that energizes voters and wins elections. So much we could capitalize on and we seem to be drifting not doing.

[JI7]

22. Democrats already do that and then you get people demanding why some democrats haven't

responded to the latest bs from him.

[Jack Valentino]

9. At least some of our senators introduced a bill to save Social Security

for the next 75 years, by making the rich pay their fare share
(eliminating the cap for incomes over $400,000 yr)

[Blue Full Moon]

11. Social Security has 2.7 trillion dollars in surplus.

That's the reason why the billionaires want it.

[dutch777]

13. That is a start. I have always been for lifting the cap and maybe extending SS tax to capital gains

[JI7]

21. What are you talking about ? Democrats DO have detailed plans

in fact that's one of the things democrsts are always criticized for . For not having something simple .

No Democrat is just saying Trump Bad and not doing or saying anything else.

Why spread this bs ?

[betsuni]

23. Bash Democrats for being wonky planers trying to fix things instead of being "passionate" populists

who never get anything done yelling strongly worded speeches bashing Democrats. Bash them for having no plans. Bash them for having the wrong plans. Bash them for only being against Trump. Bash them for not fighting and yelling enough at Trump. Bash them for things they've done or are trying to do or are impossible to do by insisting in strongly worded comments on the Internet that they do nothing but sit on their hands when their hands aren't counting oligarch money bribes or sipping a fancy glass of elitist champagne. Bash them for being same as Republicans. Bash them for not being enough like Republicans.

Saying things makes them true!