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Duncanpup

(15,521 posts)
Sat May 17, 2025, 07:42 AM May 2025

Breakfast out table next to us bow their heads in prayer.

Then i could hear them complaining basically maga talking points.
Pope is too woke
Transgender getting booted from military
Who cares about immigrants being sent to foreign prisons.
Deport all foreigners no due process
Oh here’s one that was old litter boxes in school for students who identify as furries.
Congress needs to pass trumps big beautiful bill.

I kept quiet although i wanted to ask them if they ever heard of a guy called Jesus.

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Breakfast out table next to us bow their heads in prayer. (Original Post) Duncanpup May 2025 OP
Did they have their arms outstretched and hands waving in the air? I have seen that doc03 May 2025 #1
Doc they all held hands Duncanpup May 2025 #2
Next time you stop by the diner.... magicarpet May 2025 #56
I'd hate to soldierant May 2025 #62
Just trying to get him to smirk,.... magicarpet May 2025 #64
Those would be Pentecostals, I was one as a young man & we went out to eat often, elocs May 2025 #7
Married a Pentacostal - interesting experience, me being anti-religious erronis May 2025 #17
Sounds like my ex CanonRay May 2025 #20
She did "get around". Wanna compare notes? erronis May 2025 #22
No thanks, truly bad memories CanonRay May 2025 #23
My ex was Assembly of God. Horrid people. Let children in other countries starve until they accepted Christ. mucholderthandirt May 2025 #25
I once heard a Pentecostal preacher say from the pulpit that a guy told him he wouldn't elocs May 2025 #43
There is a Biblical passage about how Christians should not be unequally yoked (married), elocs May 2025 #39
You are not the first atheist I have met (in person or online) who has extensive Biblical knowledge. Prof. Toru Tanaka May 2025 #32
As a Christian, I studied the Bible deeply in order to bolster and defend my faith elocs May 2025 #38
Recommended .... X 1000 KPN May 2025 #47
I'm one. ChazInAz May 2025 #49
Let us PREY... malaise May 2025 #3
"And when you pray" onethatcares May 2025 #4
Along with the "Judge ye not..." admonition. 3catwoman3 May 2025 #11
As an atheist now, I could support a belief system that is based upon that section of Matthew. elocs May 2025 #46
THAT'S a Scripture passage that I can never forget. calimary May 2025 #33
They don't know Jesus who taught against making a public show of your religiosity. elocs May 2025 #5
Prey to Jesus, vote for Barabbas. It's the republican way. n/t iscooterliberally May 2025 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author cayugafalls May 2025 #8
Matthew 6:5 cayugafalls May 2025 #9
They covered quite a lot of ground for a breakfast conversation Prairie Gates May 2025 #10
Good lord. They hit all the talking points in one meal? Iris May 2025 #12
They don't have anything else to talk about... hunter May 2025 #15
Let me guess Aviation Pro May 2025 #13
Run Duncan, run. twodogsbarking May 2025 #14
I would have asked to be moved to a table far away from them. Clouds Passing May 2025 #16
Absolutely Ferrets are Cool May 2025 #61
The litter boxes thing would have sent me over the edge ms liberty May 2025 #18
Maybe shake your head and loudly whisper "Father, forgive them..." CTyankee May 2025 #19
I've been known to smile at such people and say "Jesus wept". But I'm mean that way. mucholderthandirt May 2025 #26
Ellie Griffiths? stillcool May 2025 #57
I wouldn't have been able to eat my breakfast after hearing that nauseating conversation. Diamond_Dog May 2025 #21
i wish u did !!!! AllaN01Bear May 2025 #24
So they hit every single story in the news cycle. Dreamer Tatum May 2025 #27
It is right to thank Jesus. usonian May 2025 #28
Typical magats, Dunc SheltieLover May 2025 #29
Matthew 7:12 or Leviticus 19:18 Sharma Dreihund May 2025 #30
I'll bet they stiffed the server, too.... nt albacore May 2025 #31
I would've reminded them that Jesus, Mary, and Joseph..... lastlib May 2025 #34
I hope I'm not presented with a similar situation. I will speak up and call them out. flashman13 May 2025 #35
But then they have their own free speech rights as well. elocs May 2025 #48
Looks like FOX is doing their job! bif May 2025 #36
I just ignore that stuff. It only makes them feel leftyladyfrommo May 2025 #37
Wow. That's quite a MAGA list for a breakfast Nanjeanne May 2025 #40
You should have said Grace to Satan? pwb May 2025 #41
That would've been redundant relayerbob May 2025 #60
Wrapped up in their stupidity infused safety blanket. Woke, immigrants, & transgender, the trifecta of ignorance! Brainfodder May 2025 #42
To riff off Will Rogers: Christianity aint what it used to be... ananda May 2025 #44
WWJT (What would Jesus think) Jean Genie May 2025 #45
Sounds right. There is no middle ground with this shit. Deplorable was waaay too kind. n/t Evolve Dammit May 2025 #50
I hate that sanctimonious display of praying in public Blue Owl May 2025 #51
The Pope is too woke.....Tell Jesus that one while you pray Tribetime May 2025 #52
Public prayers over meals don't bother me. MAGAGOP politics bothers me. You&I probably agree there. Hekate May 2025 #53
I do make a point, if they are obviously too loud and long (it gives me the permission), to join in. I mean ... marble falls May 2025 #54
Why bother? MorbidButterflyTat May 2025 #55
more proof to me Skittles May 2025 #58
Should have loudly requested another table relayerbob May 2025 #59
Dear Lord May nobody shoot me in the back while Tribetime May 2025 #63
Maybe they were praying to Cthulhu nilram May 2025 #65
They're in a cult which has nothing to do with Jesus Martin Eden May 2025 #66

doc03

(38,784 posts)
1. Did they have their arms outstretched and hands waving in the air? I have seen that
Sat May 17, 2025, 07:57 AM
May 2025

public display many times.

magicarpet

(18,456 posts)
56. Next time you stop by the diner....
Sat May 17, 2025, 06:17 PM
May 2025

Bring a canvas dufflebag with ten snakes and ten bibles. Then polish up on your ability to speak and pray in tongues.

If the back parking lot is big enough consider pitching a tent for weekly revival meetings.

Reverent Duncan has a nice ring to it.





 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
7. Those would be Pentecostals, I was one as a young man & we went out to eat often,
Sat May 17, 2025, 08:23 AM
May 2025

but we never raised our hands and had pretty ordinary conversations that you wouldn't hear unless you were trying to listen in on it. They were good people because they would help anyone in need without demanding to know if the person was a believer or not, but to be a good witness for Jesus and have a chance to witness. There are all kinds of religious people.
I am an atheist now but I've read the entire Bible several times and studied it in its original languages.

erronis

(22,469 posts)
17. Married a Pentacostal - interesting experience, me being anti-religious
Sat May 17, 2025, 09:21 AM
May 2025

I'm fine with people believing in whatever they want. Just don't try to change me to match your cult's ideas. Besides this person would change from religious to drunk to party girl when it suited her.

mucholderthandirt

(1,742 posts)
25. My ex was Assembly of God. Horrid people. Let children in other countries starve until they accepted Christ.
Sat May 17, 2025, 09:44 AM
May 2025

Was forced to go to church at times (got tired of arguing), waving hands, stumbling about, collapsed on the floor in spasms, speaking in tongues. Ex said, it's in the Bible. I said it sure was. Someone who understands the passage should explain what it actually meant.

People can call themselves "Christian" all they want. When they are going against Christ's teachings, they are liars and hypocrites. The one sin God can not forgive? Hypocrisy. Because the hypocrites don't believe they've sinned, and thus can't ask for forgiveness.

 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
43. I once heard a Pentecostal preacher say from the pulpit that a guy told him he wouldn't
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:49 AM
May 2025

go to church because there were too many hypocrites. The preacher said he told him, "Well come right in, one more wouldn't make any difference."
The Bible says that the unforgivable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
Even a hypocrite can have a moment of contrition and ask for forgiveness.

 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
39. There is a Biblical passage about how Christians should not be unequally yoked (married),
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:37 AM
May 2025

believer and non-believer. It would be hard to imagine any Pentecostal preacher who would agree to marry such a couple.

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(2,897 posts)
32. You are not the first atheist I have met (in person or online) who has extensive Biblical knowledge.
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:12 AM
May 2025

I find it interesting that there are people who have studied and read the Bible in-depth and end up shunning religion completely. And I mean that as a positive comment.

 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
38. As a Christian, I studied the Bible deeply in order to bolster and defend my faith
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:34 AM
May 2025

and came out the other side an atheist.
The last 2 years before I retired I worked at the Salvation Army as a custodian. In my interview I did mention a passage in Matthew. A month after I had been working I told my supervisor with whom I worked closely that I was an atheist (he is a strong Baptist). You could have knocked him over with a feather because based upon how I treated people there, the clients and homeless, he assumed I was a Christian. But what surprised me the most is that he respected my decision and promised he would never try and witness to me or to get me to come back into the fold, and he didn't.

As an atheist, I do not throw the baby out with the bathwater. There is much of what Jesus says and teaches that is admirable and would make a good philosophy. Even in the Old Testament there are things like a concern or for animals or an admonition to treat strangers well because the Jews were once strangers in a strange land themselves.

ChazInAz

(2,988 posts)
49. I'm one.
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:07 AM
May 2025

I attended a well-known, very liberal Methodist university in central Illinois. Needless to say, religion classes were part of the curriculum, but with students of every faith (or none) from all over the world, there were some special courses.Two were my favorites: a history of Buddhism and an in-depth study of the Bible as a document. That latter was taught by a Rabbi and members of the Greek and Latin languages faculty. That sort of thing will turn anyone into an atheist or agnostic.

onethatcares

(16,954 posts)
4. "And when you pray"
Sat May 17, 2025, 08:07 AM
May 2025

go into your closet"

They constantly forget the rest of the admonitions.

3catwoman3

(28,477 posts)
11. Along with the "Judge ye not..." admonition.
Sat May 17, 2025, 08:44 AM
May 2025

And the whole Matthew 25:31-46 thing.

I always have to look up the 31-46 part as I am no biblical scholar. Not even close. I think this is one of the few sections worth remembering and acting on.

 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
46. As an atheist now, I could support a belief system that is based upon that section of Matthew.
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:54 AM
May 2025

It's ironic how the denominations that are viewed by conservative denominations as being "liberal" are the ones today who are helping the homeless and the hungry the most.

calimary

(88,844 posts)
33. THAT'S a Scripture passage that I can never forget.
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:15 AM
May 2025

Matthew 6:6-7 English Standard Version 2016 (ESV)

“But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.“

In other words, it’s NOT about showboating. One of my favorites.

 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
5. They don't know Jesus who taught against making a public show of your religiosity.
Sat May 17, 2025, 08:15 AM
May 2025

But keeping quiet was a good choice because they also have freedom of speech as much as we dislike what they are saying. You overheard their conversation, they weren't preaching at you or confronting you.

Response to iscooterliberally (Reply #6)

cayugafalls

(5,955 posts)
9. Matthew 6:5
Sat May 17, 2025, 08:38 AM
May 2025

“And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward.”

All they have is their vanity and their self-righteousness.

They do not know Jesus or what it means to be moral, compassionate and honest.



hunter

(40,323 posts)
15. They don't have anything else to talk about...
Sat May 17, 2025, 09:16 AM
May 2025

... the voices on the television, radio, internet, and their preachers fill their heads, displacing any original thought.

ms liberty

(10,923 posts)
18. The litter boxes thing would have sent me over the edge
Sat May 17, 2025, 09:31 AM
May 2025

Because the litter boxes are for kids to pee/poop in during a lockdown. Lockdowns nowadays are usually for school shootings. But you can guarantee they're "gunz okay" 2A believers.

CTyankee

(67,735 posts)
19. Maybe shake your head and loudly whisper "Father, forgive them..."
Sat May 17, 2025, 09:34 AM
May 2025

just after you pay your bill and leave.

stillcool

(34,407 posts)
57. Ellie Griffiths?
Sat May 17, 2025, 06:20 PM
May 2025

I'd never heard that expression until I read the Ruth Galloway series. Now I'll never forget it.

Sharma Dreihund

(24 posts)
30. Matthew 7:12 or Leviticus 19:18
Sat May 17, 2025, 09:59 AM
May 2025

You might try a call back prayer to the teachings of not just Jesus, but the Old Testament, too? “So in everything, do unto others what you would have them do unto you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.” Matthew 7:12 is easier to remember than the Leviticus verse because Matthew 7: 12 can be summed up by praying for all of us to remember The Golden Rule.

lastlib

(27,413 posts)
34. I would've reminded them that Jesus, Mary, and Joseph.....
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:23 AM
May 2025

....were undocumented immigrants, crossed a border illiegally.

 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
48. But then they have their own free speech rights as well.
Sat May 17, 2025, 11:03 AM
May 2025

It seems that their conversation was one overheard by the OP who was sitting close to them, not that they were preaching to the restaurant. If they had been eating quietly nearby and heard you talking about whatever it was that they seriously disagreed to hearing would it them be ok for them to call you out?
A simple suggestion which I have read would simply to be asked to be moved elsewhere if possible.

leftyladyfrommo

(19,950 posts)
37. I just ignore that stuff. It only makes them feel
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:34 AM
May 2025

persecuted if you say anything. I used to work with a Pentacostal preacher and he was one of the meanest people I ever knew. Boy did he hate Catholics.

I got him. One morning I told him about the Sisters of Mercy here in KCMO. They were all medical people and they went out at night to houses where family members needed 24 hour care and spent the night so the family could sleep.

He had a severely disabled daughter that needed 24 hour care so he recognized what a wonderful service this was. He even
admitted that it was a really nice thing to do. He had the strangest look on his face.

Score one for me!

Nanjeanne

(6,492 posts)
40. Wow. That's quite a MAGA list for a breakfast
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:38 AM
May 2025

outing with the family. You’d think they might have talked about sports or movies or gossip about friends! No way to start the day.

Brainfodder

(7,781 posts)
42. Wrapped up in their stupidity infused safety blanket. Woke, immigrants, & transgender, the trifecta of ignorance!
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:45 AM
May 2025

Maybe we need to get a group of democrats together to go around informing these small groups of idiots, make it know that we are ready and able to kick their dumb brained sorry not sorry obvious dumb shit believing asses many times over?

One member of the crew has the bullhorn, and all have pepper spray and or better defensive weapons?

Walk through the WM and such in your area and have a heart to heart with every red hat, have a double sided page full of links to all the evidence and such, not leaving them empty handed.
Feeling up to it, blanket every windshield in the parking lot with a double-sided takedown of their own?

This is low tech and feasible.

ananda

(34,298 posts)
44. To riff off Will Rogers: Christianity aint what it used to be...
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:51 AM
May 2025

but then it never was.

Jean Genie

(533 posts)
45. WWJT (What would Jesus think)
Sat May 17, 2025, 10:52 AM
May 2025

Must be somewhat painful to be so arrogantly self-righteous. Or maybe not. I guess the
Golden Rule is not part of their theological belief system. I commend you, Duncanpup, for not hauling off and hitting them!

Tribetime

(7,029 posts)
52. The Pope is too woke.....Tell Jesus that one while you pray
Sat May 17, 2025, 06:11 PM
May 2025

They know better than the Pope does

Hekate

(100,131 posts)
53. Public prayers over meals don't bother me. MAGAGOP politics bothers me. You&I probably agree there.
Sat May 17, 2025, 06:12 PM
May 2025

marble falls

(70,438 posts)
54. I do make a point, if they are obviously too loud and long (it gives me the permission), to join in. I mean ...
Sat May 17, 2025, 06:13 PM
May 2025

... why would they make a point of me hearing that sheep dip if they weren't inviting my input? I don't speak any louder than them. I make no obscene remarks. I stay on news and policy. I do it to people on phones in restaurants, too.

Tribetime

(7,029 posts)
63. Dear Lord May nobody shoot me in the back while
Sat May 17, 2025, 07:03 PM
May 2025

I'm shooting somebody else in the front....Evil Roy Slade

Martin Eden

(15,313 posts)
66. They're in a cult which has nothing to do with Jesus
Sun May 18, 2025, 07:07 AM
May 2025

Except to wear their religiosity on their sleeve as a badge of moral superiority.

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