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riversedge

(79,154 posts)
Sat May 17, 2025, 01:52 PM May 2025

Ted Lieu: I urge all press when they refer to the Qatari jet to be more accurate. It's actually the "15 year old, used Q

I knew they have been trying to sell it for 4-5 years but not that it was already 15 years old.



I urge all press when they refer to the Qatari jet to be more accurate. It’s actually the “15 year old, used Qatari jet that Qatar unsuccessfully tried to sell off for many years”.



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Ted Lieu: I urge all press when they refer to the Qatari jet to be more accurate. It's actually the "15 year old, used Q (Original Post) riversedge May 2025 OP
It was destined to be mothballed or scrapped. John1956PA May 2025 #1
Thrift Store Jet Captain Zero May 2025 #3
Probably get more for scrap metal?? riversedge May 2025 #6
Good luck with that. paleotn May 2025 #29
Still kicking themselves.... BurnDoubt May 2025 #19
ANYONE ELSE tired of him telling us (and Wal Mart) to suck it up vapor2 May 2025 #2
It's not worth $400M. Like all 747's, it's a 4 engine gas hog. An anachronism. paleotn May 2025 #32
Four engines might be viewed HuskyOffset May 2025 #40
It's only worth $400M if someone is willing to pay... localroger May 2025 #4
The jet of the Deal BOSSHOG May 2025 #9
that bone saw guy MBS Skittles May 2025 #11
Parade the horses BOSSHOG May 2025 #17
seriously, ANY kind of flattery gets eat up that pathetic narcissistic piece of utter SHIT Skittles May 2025 #31
Yea! What happened to Mr. "Art of the Deal"? Ray Bruns May 2025 #14
I love Ted Lieu Hekate May 2025 #5
he is a peach Skittles May 2025 #10
He's my Representative! 🥰 nt Raine May 2025 #34
scrap metal CountAllVotes May 2025 #7
Used. May require some repairs. Ping Tung May 2025 #8
Charming fixer upper BOSSHOG May 2025 #18
I'd take the car WmChris May 2025 #24
I would too. I actually have a hood for it. FadedMullet May 2025 #26
You two get together on this car project Bobstandard May 2025 #38
K&R spanone May 2025 #12
Looks like they found a sucker Evolve Dammit May 2025 #13
It's such a classic example of trump and his "deals". Biophilic May 2025 #15
A Sucker AND A Loser!!!!! BurnDoubt May 2025 #16
I don't care if it's made of balsa wood with a rubberband propeller... Montauk6 May 2025 #20
How long are people going to obsess about this? madville May 2025 #21
It's a pile of junk!! California Kid May 2025 #22
You could say it's a gold plated white elephant. flashman13 May 2025 #23
We keep obsessing about it because some his base can actually understand. Girard442 May 2025 #25
Ran when parked NBachers May 2025 #27
I am no engineer but ... Grammy23 May 2025 #28
Compared to a passenger plane of the same age (13 years) A HERETIC I AM May 2025 #35
If Trump is timms139 May 2025 #37
The whole thing kinda reminds me of the fake diamond ring TSF gifted to Roy Cohn just before he died. nt Trueblue Texan May 2025 #30
Did he find it in the "Free" section of Craigslist? nt intrepidity May 2025 #33
It was their garbage...grump was their garbage man... MiHale May 2025 #36
Hand-Me-Down Toy ihaveaquestion May 2025 #39
When King Putin makes Qatar the 57th state... Kid Berwyn May 2025 #41

John1956PA

(4,728 posts)
1. It was destined to be mothballed or scrapped.
Sat May 17, 2025, 01:56 PM
May 2025

Then Trump jumped at the offer. It reminds me of the probably apocryphal story of Native Americans selling Manhatten Island for a box of trinkets.

paleotn

(21,382 posts)
29. Good luck with that.
Sat May 17, 2025, 04:03 PM
May 2025

Pennies on the dollar as a cargo jet. That's really all the gas hog, 747's are good for unless you're dragging a presidential entourage around with you. And why the Qataris had a hard time unloading it for cash.

BurnDoubt

(1,362 posts)
19. Still kicking themselves....
Sat May 17, 2025, 02:55 PM
May 2025

If they'd have MBS-ed them, they could have had the trinkets and kept their land.

vapor2

(3,626 posts)
2. ANYONE ELSE tired of him telling us (and Wal Mart) to suck it up
Sat May 17, 2025, 01:59 PM
May 2025

when he drools over this jet? It was up for sale in 2020 I believe. We only get 3 fucking dolls and he gets a $400 million jet? Congress needs to take the reigns back on this

paleotn

(21,382 posts)
32. It's not worth $400M. Like all 747's, it's a 4 engine gas hog. An anachronism.
Sat May 17, 2025, 04:19 PM
May 2025

The Qataris know their mark well. Slap a new paint job on an old, out of date jet and "give" it to a fool. Keeping it after he leaves office (if he leaves office alive - 8647) is totally impractical. A fool's idea.

747's are used as the AF1 platform only because of it's interior capacity, and the "big dick" theory. Only other practical use is as a cargo hauler.

localroger

(3,776 posts)
4. It's only worth $400M if someone is willing to pay...
Sat May 17, 2025, 02:05 PM
May 2025

...four hundred million dollars for it. I've been thinking this since the whole thing blew up. If the jet is really something nobody wants and giving it to Trump is really an alternative to paying to have it scrapped, then well that's just a typical Trump deal for you.

BOSSHOG

(44,563 posts)
9. The jet of the Deal
Sat May 17, 2025, 02:13 PM
May 2025

Awesome! He’s such a wheeler dealer. The Qatar royals never saw what hit them.

Skittles

(169,214 posts)
11. that bone saw guy MBS
Sat May 17, 2025, 02:26 PM
May 2025

you could see in his expression how delighted he was to be handling such a fucking moronic "president"

BOSSHOG

(44,563 posts)
17. Parade the horses
Sat May 17, 2025, 02:53 PM
May 2025

Flash something gold and shiny. Yes Donald we know all about loving stupid people.

Skittles

(169,214 posts)
31. seriously, ANY kind of flattery gets eat up that pathetic narcissistic piece of utter SHIT
Sat May 17, 2025, 04:18 PM
May 2025

fucking DISGUSTING

WmChris

(583 posts)
24. I'd take the car
Sat May 17, 2025, 03:52 PM
May 2025

The car is a project that already has a lot of the heavy lifting done. It's already updated raditor and valve covers show the driveline is reworked and the body shows no rust. Unlike a out dated plane that would need more security sweeps and updated electronics then it's total value is worth and it would still be obsolete.

Bobstandard

(2,161 posts)
38. You two get together on this car project
Sun May 18, 2025, 10:33 AM
May 2025

I’d like to watch the process on your YouTube channel or instagram

Biophilic

(6,377 posts)
15. It's such a classic example of trump and his "deals".
Sat May 17, 2025, 02:39 PM
May 2025

It's like you know he is going to lose right from the beginning.

Montauk6

(9,299 posts)
20. I don't care if it's made of balsa wood with a rubberband propeller...
Sat May 17, 2025, 03:02 PM
May 2025

A bribe is a bribe is a bribe.
-Confucious

madville

(7,834 posts)
21. How long are people going to obsess about this?
Sat May 17, 2025, 03:02 PM
May 2025

This thing always had zero chance of actually being AF1, it will wind up being mothballed in the desert with the rest of the obsolete 747 fleet. I’ve seen more stories about this plane in the last week than anything else and it’s managed to go from a flying palace/luxurious bribe to worthless junk in that time lol.

I personally think they’re just trolling the media/left and love the attention this gets because it distracts from the more serious stuff they’re doing.

Girard442

(6,813 posts)
25. We keep obsessing about it because some his base can actually understand.
Sat May 17, 2025, 03:53 PM
May 2025

How many of them have been "generously" (re)gifted something that turned out to be a run out piece of junk that needs a ton of expensive repairs?

Grammy23

(6,083 posts)
28. I am no engineer but ...
Sat May 17, 2025, 04:02 PM
May 2025

Is it not true that airplanes get stressed over time from the forces of take off and landing done repeatedly? So if true, that bucket of bolts will need considerable restoration just to make sure it is safe to use as AF1. That is to say nothing about replacement of every single bit of the upgraded safety and security equipment necessary to be worthy of flying our country’s highest officers.

And honestly, anyone who thinks tRump will allow that plane to really belong to the US government is delusional. He is salivating at the thought of having his very own flying palace. He figures everyone will conveniently forget about it and never notice when he takes it with him wherever he goes.

That gift will come with a huge price tag that trump intends to foist off on the tax payers….certainly not a grifter like him.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,841 posts)
35. Compared to a passenger plane of the same age (13 years)
Sat May 17, 2025, 08:14 PM
May 2025

That airframe is virtually brand new.

It has very low hours compared to a similar plane that KLM or Lufthansa might be flying (two of the last major operators of 747's).

It was sold to a holding company on the Isle of Man in 2023

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P4-HBJ

timms139

(468 posts)
37. If Trump is
Sun May 18, 2025, 09:58 AM
May 2025

going to be the one flying it around I'm willing to skip the rebuilding and safety checks, just sweep it for spying tech and let the bolts fly out of it somewhere in the middle of the ocean .

Trueblue Texan

(4,142 posts)
30. The whole thing kinda reminds me of the fake diamond ring TSF gifted to Roy Cohn just before he died. nt
Sat May 17, 2025, 04:12 PM
May 2025

ihaveaquestion

(4,360 posts)
39. Hand-Me-Down Toy
Sun May 18, 2025, 01:01 PM
May 2025

From a rich kid who doesn't care about it anymore. That's what they used to call some of the things I got given to me as a child... Not a nice name.

Kid Berwyn

(22,695 posts)
41. When King Putin makes Qatar the 57th state...
Sun May 18, 2025, 01:39 PM
May 2025

…the Qatari royals can deduct the bribe, er, gratuity on their federal royal-T taxes.

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