Clinic bomber ID-ed, dead, a "mortalist", wanted to remove himself

[UTUSN]

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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/18/us/palm-springs-bombing-fertility-clinic-suspect.html

Suspect in Palm Springs Bombing Died in Blast, Officials Say
The suspect, a 25-year-old man, targeted the fertility clinic in the bombing that damaged the facility and several blocks of downtown. Authorities are still looking for a motive.

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[LudwigPastorius]

1. Which is it?

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Is he a so-called mortalist, or is the motive unclear?

[UTUSN]

3. "t" - "mortalist"

[LudwigPastorius]

17. Friggin' Autocorrect...

[stopdiggin]

5. you could probably make a decent argument that one does not preclude the other?

and that both are at least possible at the same time.

I have also heard the term 'natalist' thrown around - (by LE figures no less - which seems slightly premature at this early juncture?) - so there remain a lot of possibilities? And not a lot precluded.

edit: Apparently there is a good deal more 'material' from this person already extant. If somebody is upfront saying, "I'm doing this because .. " Then it seems reasonable that that should carry a good deal of weight?

[LudwigPastorius]

8. The NYT story is paywalled for me.

So, I wasn't able to see any evidence of his motives if the author included it.

[canetoad]

10. Free link

https://archive.md/QifXF

[LudwigPastorius]

16. Thank you!

[stopdiggin]

11. here's a bit from the independent

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/guy-edward-bartkus-pro-mortalism-b2753367.html

and another
https://www.yahoo.com/news/fbi-identifies-ivf-clinic-bomber-174336677.html

this guy - apparently very clear about his motivation and agenda.
also one sick puppy. and as I said the other day, the wack-jobs (of all different stripes) are crawling out of the woodwork. Brace yourself for more.

[LudwigPastorius]

14. Thank you for the links.

However, I will remain skeptical, mainly because the reports of his motivation are (so far) coming from Trump & Patel's FBI and unnamed internet sources.

Meanwhile, some of the right wing media reports that he is "anti-pro life" and has "ties to Democrats".

https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/guy-edward-bartkus-palm-springs-bombers-alleged-democrat-links-promortalism-website-surface-101747587966779.html

I may be way off base here, but I just have difficulty taking the official line from the Trump-run government at face value.

[Meowmee]

2. Awful

At least no one else was injured etc. I thought he was an anti natalist?

[UTUSN]

4. Nobody else injured or dead. Yeah, my first thought when the news broke.

[bamagal62]

6. Why do we have

So many crazy ass people out there? Very disturbing.

[OAITW r.2.0]

7. He proved he was a Mortalist.

Did he win a prize?

[SheltieLover]

19. If he hasn't reproduced, he would be a strong contender for a Darwin award

[Mountainguy]

9. Ok, first time I've had any exposure to this particular brand of crazy

Basically all existence is and brings suffering, so death at the earliest possible point is the goal.

That seems like a tough recruiting pitch.

[stopdiggin]

12. I believe you framed it quite nicely. Tough sell. -(nt)-

[canetoad]

13. This 'pro-mortalist' bs

Is the raving of a mentally unwell, young man. But wait and watch - 'mortalist' will become the word du jour. The buzzy thing to discuss in late May 2025.

Everyone, except maybe Jesus if he existed. Dr Who and a couple of others are mortalists. We are all going to die. But just watch the inadequate media make 'mortalism' into an almost legitimate thing.

Jesus wept.

[LudwigPastorius]

15. Crazed bands of vicious, mortalist Democrats are trying to kill us all!

Thank God we've got president Trump to protect us!

[Buns_of_Fire]

18. Good news, though: He removed himself from the gene pool. nt

[BeerBarrelPolka]

20. About the bomb

Where did he get supplies/ingredients to make the bomb and the ability to construct?