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Miles Archer

(23,157 posts)
Tue May 20, 2025, 03:23 PM May 2025

The GOP's Great White Hopeless: "Ron DeSantis's fall from grace: 'He's completely crashed to the ground'" (Guardian)

"It's your wife! It's your fucking wife! You can't fucking play!" - Nigel Tufnel to David St. Hubbins, "This Is Spinal Tap"

Ron DeSantis’s fall from grace: ‘He’s completely crashed to the ground’

Florida governor stands isolated from Trump and is feuding with Republicans at home – is he drifting to irrelevance?

Richard Luscombe in Miami
Tue 20 May 2025 07.00 EDT

These are challenging days for Ron DeSantis, the Florida governor who would have been king. Barely two and a half years since his landslide re-election and anointment as “DeFuture” of the Republican party in a fawning New York Post cover, he stands isolated from the national political stage, feuding with his once blindingly loyal Florida legislature, and limping towards the finish line of his second term with an uncertain pathway beyond.

It has been, in the view of many analysts, a fall of stunning velocity and magnitude. And while few are willing to completely rule out a comeback for a 46-year-old politician who was the darling of the Republican hard right until he dared to challenge Donald Trump for his party’s 2024 presidential nomination, it is also clear that everything has changed.

“He’s completely crashed to the ground at this point and is certainly being treated like a more standard, average governor now,” said Aubrey Jewett, professor of political science at the University of Central Florida.

“He’s lost the ability to push things through. He’s lost that luster he had that at one time seemed like he could do no wrong in Republican conservative circles. He’s definitely come back down to earth and some of it is his own doing because if you govern with an autocratic style, that doesn’t usually make you a lot of allies.”
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The GOP's Great White Hopeless: "Ron DeSantis's fall from grace: 'He's completely crashed to the ground'" (Guardian) (Original Post) Miles Archer May 2025 OP
They never truly go away lame54 May 2025 #1
You're right, they don't. Miles Archer May 2025 #2
They won't have a primary in 2028 BannonsLiver May 2025 #7
That's been my prediction. Miles Archer May 2025 #8
Am not one for prayers, but here's one I could go for. Please be true. nt allegorical oracle May 2025 #3
My take is that his wife killed it all. Miles Archer May 2025 #4
Yep, Casey couldn't quite fill the bill. Then there was the business about the pair of allegorical oracle May 2025 #9
The felon affectionately calls him, "Meatball Ron". Omnipresent May 2025 #5
Let's hope Trump has the same luck newdeal2 May 2025 #6
Admire the concept, but in this case the fumer's fumes are beyond the pale. nt allegorical oracle May 2025 #10

Miles Archer

(23,157 posts)
2. You're right, they don't.
Tue May 20, 2025, 03:34 PM
May 2025

I think it's a safe bet that he's not going to be the GOP front runner on the 2028 presidential ticket, but what the hell do I know?

I always knew there was a 50-50 chance when we defeated Trump in 2020 that he'd run again, but part of me hoped that was a ridiculous thing that would never happen. I learned from that one.

BannonsLiver

(20,569 posts)
7. They won't have a primary in 2028
Tue May 20, 2025, 04:11 PM
May 2025

Don Jr will be their nominee and no gop pol will dare get in the way of that.

Miles Archer

(23,157 posts)
8. That's been my prediction.
Tue May 20, 2025, 04:16 PM
May 2025

Trump declined endorsing Vance as opposed to "extending his dynasty," which means President Don Jr or President Ivanka.

Ivanka would be a stretch in 2028. Maybe 2 terms of Don Jr, then 2 terms of Ivanka, then...that's right, President Barron.

That's the fantasy.

Miles Archer

(23,157 posts)
4. My take is that his wife killed it all.
Tue May 20, 2025, 03:45 PM
May 2025

Think back on this.

She had a CLEAR transition, when she took on a higher profile and earned the "WalMart Melania" nickname with her passive-aggressive jacket with "Where Woke Goes To Die" jacket.

It really BEGAN when HE started snapping at simple questions on campaign stops, but the REAL DECLINE escalated RAPIDLY when it was "Ron & Casey" on equal footing and exposure, as opposed to "Ron."

She was not built for the long race. People don't like him, but they seemed to REALLY not like her. She leaned into "We're going to turn the REST of the United States into FLORIDA," and the United States basically said "The HELL you are."

allegorical oracle

(6,468 posts)
9. Yep, Casey couldn't quite fill the bill. Then there was the business about the pair of
Tue May 20, 2025, 04:32 PM
May 2025

them diverting federal COVID funds to some use they felt was better. Guess first wives are best seen and not heard? Or maybe that's when the husband is an idiot, so everyone figures the wife is a bigger idiot for marrying him.

Omnipresent

(7,439 posts)
5. The felon affectionately calls him, "Meatball Ron".
Tue May 20, 2025, 03:51 PM
May 2025

It was so heart warming when i first heard it.

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