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malaise

(286,188 posts)
Wed May 21, 2025, 09:52 AM May 21

Contempt of Court says Judge

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/20/judge-migrants-south-sudan

Judge orders US officials to keep custody of migrants flown to South Sudan
Brian Murphy says deportations appear to flout court order and says ‘if they want to turn the plane around, they can’

A federal judge on Tuesday ordered the Trump administration to not let a group of migrants being flown to South Sudan leave the custody of US immigration authorities after saying they appeared to have been deported in violation of a court order.

US district judge Brian Murphy in Boston during a hastily arranged virtual hearing said that while he was not going to order the airplane to turn around, that was an option the Department of Homeland Security could employ to comply with his order.

Murphy warned that officials could be held in criminal contempt if he found they violated his previous order barring the swift deportation of migrants to countries other than their own before they could raise any concerns that they might face torture or persecution there.

“I have a strong indication that my preliminary injunction order has been violated,” Murphy told Elianis Perez, a lawyer with the Department of Justice.





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Contempt of Court says Judge (Original Post) malaise May 21 OP
When are they going to start jailing someone for this contempt???? marble falls May 21 #1
Well I was giggling wondering what costume malaise May 21 #2
I thought a "MAGA says send criminals to the Sudan" teeshirt might be a nice touch. marble falls May 21 #8
Hehe malaise May 21 #10
never chicoescuela May 21 #12
I think they will as soon as they can find a Democrat still employed at Homeland. LiberalArkie May 21 #16
Quit fucking dicking around and do it already, MarineCombatEngineer May 21 #3
The fact that this isn't front and center of the news is bullshit! FirstLight May 21 #20
Exactly MCE DENVERPOPS May 21 #24
Can the pilots be held in contempt? GusBob May 21 #4
Great question malaise May 21 #7
The pilot-in-command is in charge from the moment they sign the dispatch papers Aviation Pro May 21 #21
If not stopped SOON, it will turn into a supreme court nightmare! bluestarone May 21 #5
Apparently there is wording in the .... Lovie777 May 21 #6
It's still got to pass. marble falls May 21 #9
Yep, and it's not looking too good in the Senate, MarineCombatEngineer May 21 #11
This judge is not happy LetMyPeopleVote May 21 #13
I have a strong feeling that he's right. dchill May 21 #14
I hope it's something more than "Double secret probation." surfered May 21 #15
Call me cynical but they won't even get a slap on the wrist. 🙁 Dave Bowman May 21 #17
Contempt of Court says Judge Mr.Bee May 21 #18
Here's MY choice....... MyOwnPeace May 21 #27
Really! Mr.Bee May 21 #29
Going to be more sand pounding by a federal judge. republianmushroom May 21 #19
Constitutional crisis: Congress must stop these bloody kidnappings. Due process must prevail. lindysalsagal May 21 #22
Rather than a monarch,.... more like a despot, dictator, or a Fuhrer,...... magicarpet May 21 #26
I am really sick of these 'strongly worded' rulings by the judges. hamsterjill May 21 #23
Notice how every judge talks tough but never actually makes an order Bluetus May 21 #25
update: Judge rules Trump administration violated court order by attempting to deport migrants to South Sudan scipan May 21 #28

malaise

(286,188 posts)
2. Well I was giggling wondering what costume
Wed May 21, 2025, 09:57 AM
May 21

Princess dress up would wear in prison😂😀😂

MarineCombatEngineer

(15,862 posts)
3. Quit fucking dicking around and do it already,
Wed May 21, 2025, 09:57 AM
May 21

arrest them for Contempt of Court instead of constantly warning these Nazi bastards, maybe that'll get their attention.

FirstLight

(15,392 posts)
20. The fact that this isn't front and center of the news is bullshit!
Wed May 21, 2025, 12:25 PM
May 21

And I am WAITING for some actual spine to show up in our other two branches of govt!

I dont know of the Dems on Congress can start calling for the Fed Marshals to do their job, but come ON!

DENVERPOPS

(12,915 posts)
24. Exactly MCE
Wed May 21, 2025, 12:55 PM
May 21

but the problem is WHO will we get to actually arrest them? Trump literally owns Homeland Security, The DOJ, the AJ, The FBI, etc etc etc. Maybe the U.S. Marshalls?????
And I truly believe, with the speed at which they are all progressing, that in the near future, Trump will own the U.S. Military and use them, and ignore the Posse Comatatus Act....

THIS is it, MCE, we have to do something if we hope to salvage anything...

GusBob

(7,915 posts)
4. Can the pilots be held in contempt?
Wed May 21, 2025, 10:01 AM
May 21

What airline is flying these people?

Stupid question, but once the plane leaves US air space, the pilots are in charge correct?

or am I dumb?

Aviation Pro

(14,493 posts)
21. The pilot-in-command is in charge from the moment they sign the dispatch papers
Wed May 21, 2025, 12:39 PM
May 21

I don't know what regulatory part they fly under but here's 14 CFR 91.3.

§ 91.3 Responsibility and authority of the pilot in command.

(a) The pilot in command of an aircraft is directly responsible for, and is the final authority as to, the operation of that aircraft.

(b) In an in-flight emergency requiring immediate action, the pilot in command may deviate from any rule of this part to the extent required to meet that emergency.

(c) Each pilot in command who deviates from a rule under paragraph (b) of this section shall, upon the request of the Administrator, send a written report of that deviation to the Administrator.

bluestarone

(19,919 posts)
5. If not stopped SOON, it will turn into a supreme court nightmare!
Wed May 21, 2025, 10:02 AM
May 21

Then they will disobey EVERY future judges orders!!

Lovie777

(19,210 posts)
6. Apparently there is wording in the ....
Wed May 21, 2025, 10:05 AM
May 21

big beautiful budget of thousand of pages that shithole and his comrades will be exempt from contempt prosecution from courts.

MarineCombatEngineer

(15,862 posts)
11. Yep, and it's not looking too good in the Senate,
Wed May 21, 2025, 10:22 AM
May 21

and the House is still iffy.
Hopefully, this piece of shit bill goes down in flames and more Ketchup will be flying at the walls of the WH.

dchill

(42,660 posts)
14. I have a strong feeling that he's right.
Wed May 21, 2025, 11:49 AM
May 21

Especially since Kristi Noem thinks habeas corpus is the President's constitutional right to deport anyone anytime.

MyOwnPeace

(17,336 posts)
27. Here's MY choice.......
Wed May 21, 2025, 01:40 PM
May 21

Raylen Givens - he won't put up with this bullshit!!!!

Seriously - why are our 'lawmakers' sitting by and watching this horendous violation of all that we thought made America great?

lindysalsagal

(22,716 posts)
22. Constitutional crisis: Congress must stop these bloody kidnappings. Due process must prevail.
Wed May 21, 2025, 12:45 PM
May 21

Or democracy is over and he's an omnipotent monarch. He can do anything to anyone.

magicarpet

(18,455 posts)
26. Rather than a monarch,.... more like a despot, dictator, or a Fuhrer,......
Wed May 21, 2025, 01:26 PM
May 21

.... in short order with Kegsbreath Hegseth at the helm it will soon be a military junta. With Posse Comitatus -a quaint idea from the past of our founding fathers - but no longer relevant today.

hamsterjill

(16,085 posts)
23. I am really sick of these 'strongly worded' rulings by the judges.
Wed May 21, 2025, 12:54 PM
May 21

"may be", "could be"....let's here a "shall be". This is basic legal jargon.

I want someone's ass thrown in jail and then we can worry about "could" and "may".


Bluetus

(1,256 posts)
25. Notice how every judge talks tough but never actually makes an order
Wed May 21, 2025, 01:11 PM
May 21

that would call the question. This is very deliberate, of course. They are clinging to the fiction that the judiciary is still a thing, and it isn't If they ever make a solid ruling against this administration, it will be ignored.

The judges (including SCOTUS) know it will be ignored, and they know that means the end of the Judicial branch of government for all practical purposes.

But it actually ended with the ruling giving Trump general immunity. That is the day the courts died. They just don't want to admit it, so we go on with this daily theater while judges act like they are making real decisions and the administration acts like it is obeying. But they all know it is over.

And when we report on and discuss this Kabuki theater as if we still had a functioning judicial system, we are aiding and abetting the destruction of our Constitutional system. We really must stop normalizing this.

P.S. The judiciary still functions to deal with street criminals, but little else.

scipan

(2,890 posts)
28. update: Judge rules Trump administration violated court order by attempting to deport migrants to South Sudan
Wed May 21, 2025, 02:59 PM
May 21
A federal judge has ruled that the Department of Homeland Security’s attempt to deport migrants to South Sudan was “unquestionably violative” of an injunction he had issued earlier.

Brian E Murphy, the US district judge in Massachusetts, made the remark at an emergency hearing he had ordered in Boston following the Trump administration’s apparent deportation of eight people to South Sudan, despite most of them being from other countries.
...snip...
At Wednesday’s hearing, Murphy said that he would leave the discussion of criminal penalties against the homeland security department for another day.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/21/trump-deportations-south-sudan
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