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LetMyPeopleVote

(179,869 posts)
Thu May 29, 2025, 09:53 AM May 2025

Trump's Air Force One deal with Qatar not final, despite U.S. claims

The delay reflects lingering concerns about legal liabilities stemming from a White House maneuver to transform what was originally a sale between two countries into a “gift.”

WAPO - Trump’s Air Force One deal with Qatar not final, despite U.S. claims

The delay reflects lingering concerns about legal liabilities stemming from a White House maneuver to transform what was originally a sale between two countries into a “gift.”

Lola Gayle (@lolagaylec.bsky.social) 2025-05-29T11:26:16.712Z



https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/05/28/trump-qatar-air-force-one/

Despite claims by the Defense Department to the contrary, legal teams representing the U.S. and Qatari governments have not finalized an agreement for transferring the luxury Boeing 747-8 jetliner that President Donald Trump wants for Air Force One amid outstanding requests by Qatar for Washington to clarify the transaction’s terms, said officials familiar with the matter.

Qatar is insisting that a memorandum of understanding between Washington and Doha specify that the aircraft’s transfer was initiated by the Trump administration and that Qatar is not responsible for any future transfers of the plane’s ownership, these people said.

The delay reflects lingering concerns about legal liability stemming from the White House maneuver to transform what was originally a sale between two countries into a “gift” that Trump continues to tout as a major deliverable from his recent trip to the Middle East....

Trump initially said it was Qatar that reached out and offered him the luxury jet free of charge. In fact, it was the Trump administration that first approached Qatar this winter about acquiring the plane through a sale after the president made clear to aides that he was upset about delays of two Boeing jets purchased during his first term for $3.9 billion, officials said. Discussion about the sale later evolved into Qatar agreeing to provide the plane as a gift, a development reported previously by CNN and the New York Times......

After Trump toured the jet, Air Force officials reviewed the aircraft and found that it was “very poorly maintained” and would require millions of dollars just to bring it up to satisfactory maintenance conditions, said one person familiar with the matter. The Air Force assessed then that there was no way the jet could ferry the president in its current state.

The Air Force estimated then that it could cost $1.5 billion to meet those requirements. To then remove the military gear and convert it for civilian use after Trump leaves office could cost an estimated $500 million, said two people familiar with the matter.

trump lied about Qatar offering to give him this plane. This is a pure bribe that will cost the US $2 billion ($1.5 billion to refurbish and $.5 billion to take military equipment out)
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Trump's Air Force One deal with Qatar not final, despite U.S. claims (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote May 2025 OP
I'm SHOCKED! Aren't you shocked? He lied to us? And he didn't even run this by his own... Ol Janx Spirit May 2025 #1
I believe this "gift" is what's commonly known as a white elephant. Ocelot II May 2025 #2
Yes, a White Trojan Elephant. Part of expense is debugging its electronics and mechanicals Bernardo de La Paz May 2025 #3
What the hell is this, "post presidency." republianmushroom May 2025 #4
Hold on to your hats ladies and gentlemen...it appears Trump may have lied... LetMyPeopleVote May 2025 #5
Kick dalton99a May 2025 #6
My read is Qatar enabled the Trump administration to give Trump a huge gift karynnj May 2025 #7
trump lied about this "gift" LetMyPeopleVote May 2025 #8
Trump's Air Force One deal with Qatar isn't final. LetMyPeopleVote May 2025 #9

Ol Janx Spirit

(1,012 posts)
1. I'm SHOCKED! Aren't you shocked? He lied to us? And he didn't even run this by his own...
Thu May 29, 2025, 10:03 AM
May 2025

...Department of Government Efficiency to see if this was a waste of taxpayer dollars?

I wonder if for two billion dollars we could turn tRump Tower into a SpaceX rocket and just launch every one of the F-47 clan and Administration into an orbit that slowly falls into the sun?

Ocelot II

(130,537 posts)
2. I believe this "gift" is what's commonly known as a white elephant.
Thu May 29, 2025, 10:04 AM
May 2025

A poorly-maintained old airplane but with an interior that's probably tricked out like a Parisian whorehouse - Trump's favorite interior decorating style. Qatar hasn't been able to sell it but when El Jefe asked for it they were more than happy to sell it or even give it away and stick the US with the expense of upgrading the thing. A classic white elephant. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_elephant

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
3. Yes, a White Trojan Elephant. Part of expense is debugging its electronics and mechanicals
Thu May 29, 2025, 11:28 AM
May 2025

How to know there is not a kill switch in the avionics that Qatar can sell to Russia / NKorea if tRump sours relations with the Gulf states?

republianmushroom

(22,326 posts)
4. What the hell is this, "post presidency."
Thu May 29, 2025, 01:20 PM
May 2025

"AND convert for Trump’s personal use post presidency. " Since when ?

karynnj

(60,968 posts)
7. My read is Qatar enabled the Trump administration to give Trump a huge gift
Thu May 29, 2025, 02:06 PM
May 2025

I had been trying to make sense of how this white elephant helped when I thing the new Boeing's are scheduled for I think early 2027 or even late 2026. It was also weird that a gift to the US would be specified as only for the current president.

If the plane was immediately usable, it would be used for a year and a half. However, estimates are it could take a year. This means there might be AT MOST a half a year it would be used by a President. So, the government would be paying 1.5 billion so Trump could travel in the style he prefers for half a year.

Then the government would pay another half a million to get all military stuff out of the plane so Trump could use it as a private citizen. It would be cheaper for the government to retain it as a spare air force 1.

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