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Miles Archer

(23,267 posts)
Fri May 30, 2025, 07:32 AM May 2025

I just know Trump will use the "master list of personal information on Americans" he's ordered responsibly.

The data analytics firm Palantir is building a master list of personal information on Americans that could give president Donald Trump immense surveillance power.

The president signed an executive order in March calling for the federal government to share data across various agencies, and while he hasn't publicly spoken about the effort since, officials have been putting the plan into place with the help of the publicly traded tech firm Palantir, which the government has paid at least $113 million since Trump took office, reported the New York Times.

"The push has put a key Palantir product called Foundry into at least four federal agencies, including [the Department of Homeland Security] and the Health and Human Services Department," the newspaper reported. "Widely adopting Foundry, which organizes and analyzes data, paves the way for Mr. Trump to easily merge information from different agencies, the government officials said. Creating detailed portraits of Americans based on government data is not just a pipe dream."

"The Trump administration has already sought access to hundreds of data points on citizens and others through government databases, including their bank account numbers, the amount of their student debt, their medical claims and any disability status," the report added.

https://www.rawstory.com/palantir-trumpspying/

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I just know Trump will use the "master list of personal information on Americans" he's ordered responsibly. (Original Post) Miles Archer May 2025 OP
He promised, right? tanyev May 2025 #1
With all due respect k_buddy762 May 2025 #2
Of course, but the distinction is... Miles Archer May 2025 #3
The same as every other American president... k_buddy762 May 2025 #4
So the difference is probably that he doesn't give a shit about who knows it Miles Archer May 2025 #5
It's the coordinating of agencies' information that's scary Ritabert May 2025 #6
 

k_buddy762

(638 posts)
2. With all due respect
Fri May 30, 2025, 08:21 AM
May 2025

the government has known everything, about everyone, for at least 20 years, and probably longer than that. Almost every human being in America (and most around the world) have personal surveillance devices in their shirt or pants pocket, or purse. Hard drive storage only gets cheaper with time, and off-shore datacenters mean not all laws apply. All data has been stored for two generations now, and the compute power (and AI) are now available to begin mining that data.

It was over before it ever began.

Miles Archer

(23,267 posts)
3. Of course, but the distinction is...
Fri May 30, 2025, 08:43 AM
May 2025

...Trump ordering this, because he must have an intended use. I know any sitting president can probably access anything he wants. The issue here, and the reason I posted this, has nothing to do with access. It has to do with "Why, exactly, does Trump feel a need for this, and what does he intend to do with it?"

Miles Archer

(23,267 posts)
5. So the difference is probably that he doesn't give a shit about who knows it
Fri May 30, 2025, 09:21 AM
May 2025

As I said, I understand what presidents can get, simply by demanding it.

What sets this apart is the gleeful nature of Trump...with Bondi and Patel in tow...seeking out his "enemies," with Musk using AI to search for Trump critics, all of it.

My point is that no other American president has been this blatant about fucking with private citizens. If you KNOW of one, by all means, share.

Ritabert

(2,444 posts)
6. It's the coordinating of agencies' information that's scary
Fri May 30, 2025, 10:32 AM
May 2025

They want SS info, IRS info, bank info, assets, etc. I wonder if they're going to do means testing to receive benefits.

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