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applegrove

(132,594 posts)
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 10:42 AM Jun 2025

Democrats Quietly Form New Think Tank

Democrats Quietly Form New Think Tank

June 3, 2025 at 9:15 am EDT By Taegan Goddard 87 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2025/06/03/democrats-quietly-form-new-think-tank/


“At a private meeting last month, a top Democratic strategist pitched party leaders and donors: We need to break down ideological lanes and reject interest group agendas if we plan to win again,” Politico reports.

“Adam Jentleson, former chief of staff to Sen. John Fetterman (D-PA) and top aide to former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV), used the retreat to preview his new policy research and messaging hub, called Searchlight. Its goal: push the Democratic Party toward the most effective, broadly popular positions regardless of which wing of the party they come from, with an eye toward 2028.”

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Democrats Quietly Form New Think Tank (Original Post) applegrove Jun 2025 OP
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Yes agreed! RJ-MacReady Jun 2025 #5
I don't think "special interest groups" is a sufficient description. CincyDem Jun 2025 #53
Yes true RJ-MacReady Jun 2025 #61
That is being a weather vane dsc Jun 2025 #2
It depends on what they do. yardwork Jun 2025 #6
Or it could mean supporting already popular Democratic positions Renew Deal Jun 2025 #10
depends RJ-MacReady Jun 2025 #11
The popular ones Renew Deal Jun 2025 #12
Yes those are sensible gun control regulations RJ-MacReady Jun 2025 #13
Agreed! k_buddy762 Jun 2025 #24
You need pretty long arms bif Jun 2025 #29
Any discussion of guns has to be framed as "common sense." yardwork Jun 2025 #17
I get that RJ-MacReady Jun 2025 #19
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Hm. I've seen some histrionic posts on DU today... yardwork Jun 2025 #42
Just drop it. yardwork Jun 2025 #39
That is exactly what Harris and other Democrats tried to do USAFRetired_Liberal Jun 2025 #41
Harris shouldn't have ignored the ads. yardwork Jun 2025 #47
Yes it was a very close election USAFRetired_Liberal Jun 2025 #49
I think Trump won in NC and the nation because of 5 major issues. yardwork Jun 2025 #69
You may be correct USAFRetired_Liberal Jun 2025 #71
Yes, it all added up. yardwork Jun 2025 #73
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The whole country is talking. We are supposed to let it go? OrlandoDem2 Jun 2025 #50
Yes. Let "the whole country" talk about it. yardwork Jun 2025 #52
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What do you suggest? yardwork Jun 2025 #56
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I don't think it's up to the federal government to make that decision. yardwork Jun 2025 #67
You are correct USAFRetired_Liberal Jun 2025 #72
I'd suggest BannonsLiver Jun 2025 #59
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I agree with you. yardwork Jun 2025 #68
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Please read my reply # 44. hamsterjill Jun 2025 #45
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So Immigrants, LGBTQ-BIPOC, the poor, disabled, women, healthcare and the environment LuvLoogie Jun 2025 #7
Curious where you got that idea? AkFemDem Jun 2025 #8
SAM LuvLoogie Jun 2025 #20
Marriage equality, support for the poor, disabled, women, health care, and the environment are all broadly popular Renew Deal Jun 2025 #9
I disagree strongly with this framing. yardwork Jun 2025 #16
Summary: Become Republicans to get elected, basically. Oneironaut Jun 2025 #34
" reject interest group agendas" Translation.Forget issues . Just shut up and follow orders." Ping Tung Jun 2025 #14
Special interest groups, try billionaires. Blue Full Moon Jun 2025 #15
Right now, the reality is that it takes billionaire donors to win. That's where Searchlight's Seth London, an adviser ancianita Sep 2025 #74
Jentleson in the NYT: 'supply-side progressivism offers a good guide, embracing limited deregulation' Celerity Jun 2025 #18
Gluesenkamp Perez is my rep. I sent her a letter warning her that her votes decide my vote in primary. Ping Tung Jun 2025 #21
What the heck is supply side progressivism? Raven123 Jun 2025 #31
"Hope they figure this out." yardwork Jun 2025 #36
it is under the third way, centrist, neoliberal Abundance Agenda umbrella Celerity Jun 2025 #38
Honestly? hamsterjill Jun 2025 #22
Bring back Howard Dean and the 50 state strategy. yardwork Jun 2025 #23
We could run on efficiency. Trump, Musk, GOP have ceded the issue. They fouled it all up. bucolic_frolic Jun 2025 #30
Another controversial opinion is that the 50 State Strategy paid off hugely in 2008 Ursus Rex Jun 2025 #63
Better late (20 years) than never I guess awesomerwb1 Jun 2025 #26
Big Tent on principles, not on agendas bucolic_frolic Jun 2025 #28
They can start by rejecting their own "interest group" frame unblock Jun 2025 #32
This. yardwork Jun 2025 #35
Here's a clue stick for the think tank UpInArms Jun 2025 #33
This just further supports the idea that Democrats stand for nothing DSandra Jun 2025 #46
Well they best, their old one hasn't been worth squat. republianmushroom Jun 2025 #51
It's about time. George McGovern Jun 2025 #57
Oh, I get it now Bettie Jun 2025 #60
And pay no consequences when we lose. Passages Jun 2025 #62
OK. But will enough people pay attention to this to matter? lees1975 Jun 2025 #66

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RJ-MacReady

(603 posts)
5. Yes agreed!
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 11:08 AM
Jun 2025

Too many special interest groups have too much influence within the party. And not all of them do us favors.

CincyDem

(7,402 posts)
53. I don't think "special interest groups" is a sufficient description.
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 01:25 PM
Jun 2025

It’s special interest groups who approach their interest as an all or nothing interest. As a result, they become single issue voters who stay home on Election Day if they “only” get 80% of what they want.

yardwork

(69,466 posts)
6. It depends on what they do.
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 11:08 AM
Jun 2025

It's clear that the Democratic Party needs to be reinvigorated. It's clear that many voters don't realize the good we do. How do we improve messaging?

If all it is is empty messaging and watered down Republican-lite, that would be a total failure. We need to go on offense.

Renew Deal

(85,265 posts)
10. Or it could mean supporting already popular Democratic positions
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 11:21 AM
Jun 2025

on healthcare and guns

Renew Deal

(85,265 posts)
12. The popular ones
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 11:28 AM
Jun 2025

Background checks, closing loopholes. I imagine it doesn't mean assault weapon bans since it's more of a 50-50 position, so not popular.

 

RJ-MacReady

(603 posts)
13. Yes those are sensible gun control regulations
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 11:31 AM
Jun 2025

We would be served best by refraining from promoting any sort of bans.

 

k_buddy762

(638 posts)
24. Agreed!
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 12:23 PM
Jun 2025

Will also be seen as "reaching across the isle" and can recruit centrists and fence-sitters

yardwork

(69,466 posts)
17. Any discussion of guns has to be framed as "common sense."
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 11:35 AM
Jun 2025

In general, it's not a winning issue for us. I'd prefer to see a full-throated economic message.

 

RJ-MacReady

(603 posts)
19. I get that
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 11:48 AM
Jun 2025

Gun control hasn't been the winning issue it should be. We need to win before anything and winning requires as you said a strong economic message.

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yardwork

(69,466 posts)
42. Hm. I've seen some histrionic posts on DU today...
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 01:01 PM
Jun 2025

Can I say that I find this post a bit ironic...

yardwork

(69,466 posts)
39. Just drop it.
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 12:55 PM
Jun 2025

Stop playing the Republicans' game.

They want us to beat one another up over complicated issues. Refuse to play their game.

Say that you are in favor of equal rights and leave it at that. Let the issue of trans athletes get worked out in the athletic sphere.

Refocus on economic issues for all. Let's win back the White House and both houses of Congress and fix the horrible things Trump is doing.

 

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,392 posts)
41. That is exactly what Harris and other Democrats tried to do
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 01:00 PM
Jun 2025

They didn’t focus on trans, they were focused on those pocket book issues. But the Republicans relentlessly attacked them on the trans in girls sports issue and the democrats refused to play their game and ignored it, but the issue stuck with the voters.

yardwork

(69,466 posts)
47. Harris shouldn't have ignored the ads.
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 01:05 PM
Jun 2025

When I say "let it go" I'm talking to ordinary Democratic voters, not the presidential nominee.

The ad with Harris saying she was in favor of gender-affirming care for people in prison ran 24/7 here in NC - apparently it ran in other states as well - and it was a mistake for Harris to ignore it.

The old "never explain" approach doesn't work. She should have addressed it, reframed the focus on the economy, and then moved on.

The Republicans will always use our strengths against us and it will fool a lot of people but we only need a few more voters to win. This was a very close election. We could have won.

 

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,392 posts)
49. Yes it was a very close election
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 01:13 PM
Jun 2025

You’re right—it was a close race. And I genuinely believe the trans sports issue was one of the factors that tipped it toward Trump. Some voters who might’ve made the difference either stayed home or crossed over to Trump just because of this one issue.

yardwork

(69,466 posts)
69. I think Trump won in NC and the nation because of 5 major issues.
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 02:28 PM
Jun 2025

1. The Trump campaign made different promises to different groups. For instance, Trump made a lot of promises to the Lumbee, flipping a historically blue county red. Those promises were kept secret because the Cherokee in western NC wouldn't have been happy to learn about them. Trump told different lies in western NC, notably about FEMA and immigrants. Etc.

2. The Republicans and their backers made the I/P issue all Biden and Harris's fault. This peeled off a lot of young people and purist progressives, while reinforcing the idea that the Democratic Party is the "Jew" party in the minds of Republicans. Well played by the Repugs, I have to say.

3. The border. Again, all Biden and Harris's fault. Messaging on this by the DNC was a total fail.

4. The economy. Booming for many, terrible for others. Another DNC messaging fail.

5. Trans rights. I think it's a distant fifth, way behind the economy.

 

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,392 posts)
71. You may be correct
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 02:47 PM
Jun 2025

That it was a distant 5th, but seeing how close this election was (in your words), even being 5th would make a difference.

yardwork

(69,466 posts)
73. Yes, it all added up.
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 03:15 PM
Jun 2025

A death by a thousand cuts and I believe that Democratic messaging failed in several key areas.

Time for a reboot for the party. We need new voices, new strategies, new ways of talking to people (in plain simple words, please), and we need to remove ourselves from ownership of complicated issues.

The Republicans grabbed the "party of common sense" vote and that is absurd. They are not in any way about common sense. We do that. We need to take back our strengths.

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yardwork

(69,466 posts)
52. Yes. Let "the whole country" talk about it.
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 01:19 PM
Jun 2025

The Democrats don't own the solution to this complicated issue. Even if we did, we have no power right now.

We need to get back in power to protect everybody's rights. Trans people are being horribly abused under Trump. They're being kicked out of the military, raped and beaten in prison, denied life-saving care - they're literally being tortured and killed.

Are we going to continue losing - and letting trans people and every other vulnerable population die - over a complex social issue that nobody has the answer to? That would be dumb. Criminally dumb.

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yardwork

(69,466 posts)
56. What do you suggest?
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 01:32 PM
Jun 2025

The Republicans (and their billionaire funders) have saddled Democrats with at least two highly divisive issues over which we have almost no power.

One is the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The other is trans athletes.

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yardwork

(69,466 posts)
67. I don't think it's up to the federal government to make that decision.
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 02:19 PM
Jun 2025

Athletic programs have their own organizations and rules. It's not up to Congress, for instance, to tell local Little League organizations what to do. And while the Dept of Education might have a role in telling a high school in CA what to do, that's not the whole story.

A lot of instances are going to fall into a gray area. The term "assigned at birth" is highly problematic because sometimes that assignment is an arbitrary decision. Not all people are born clearly male or female. So rigid one size for all rules don't work well.

I think Democrats could get on top of this by pushing the line that it's up to local communities and organizations to decide what is best for their communities.



 

USAFRetired_Liberal

(4,392 posts)
72. You are correct
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 02:55 PM
Jun 2025

This issue isn’t primarily within the jurisdiction of the federal government—aside from areas like Title IX in college athletics—but Republicans have effectively nationalized it. So while saying “it’s up to the local community” might sound reasonable, I don’t think that answer will be enough. Voters still want to know where Democrats stand personally. And if a Democrat gives a noncommittal answer like that, many will assume they support allowing trans girls to compete in girls’ sports.

As for your second point about people who fall into a gray area—I agree there are some cases, though not many. One example is the female boxers from last year’s Olympics. I fully support their right to compete in women’s sports because they were born female according to medical standards. To me, that situation wasn’t even about trans athletes, though some tried to frame it that way.

BannonsLiver

(20,707 posts)
59. I'd suggest
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 01:39 PM
Jun 2025

1. Future Dem candidates saying the issue is best left at the individual community level.

2. Doubling down on Bernie style economic policies that are popular.

No. 2 is something many agree with here. No. 1 is a total non starter for the vast majority of DUers.

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LuvLoogie

(8,853 posts)
7. So Immigrants, LGBTQ-BIPOC, the poor, disabled, women, healthcare and the environment
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 11:15 AM
Jun 2025

get thrown under the bus so we can chase Joe Rogan's fanboys?

I can't believe we are punking out to the GOPs and that traitor bigot.

American Exceptionalism has metastasized.

Renew Deal

(85,265 posts)
9. Marriage equality, support for the poor, disabled, women, health care, and the environment are all broadly popular
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 11:20 AM
Jun 2025

Maybe it means some form of "universal healthcare" will finally get a chance.

yardwork

(69,466 posts)
16. I disagree strongly with this framing.
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 11:32 AM
Jun 2025

First, it's a huge problem that we're even taking that framing seriously. It shows how we've allowed the Republicans to set the framing.

We should never, ever suggest that there's a difference between everybody's rights and any one group's rights. That right there is the Republican lie.

Think about what you're saying here.

Ping Tung

(4,370 posts)
14. " reject interest group agendas" Translation.Forget issues . Just shut up and follow orders."
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 11:31 AM
Jun 2025
I don't belong to an organized political parry. I'm a Democrat. Will Rogers

I've been a registered Democrat since 1965. There were divisions between the right and left wing of the party then. They are still going on today. The "interests" that we are to reject are the ones that separate us from Republican.

ancianita

(43,313 posts)
74. Right now, the reality is that it takes billionaire donors to win. That's where Searchlight's Seth London, an adviser
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 05:32 PM
Sep 2025

to major Democratic donors, comes in. The idea is to win with tried and true messaging that's gotten past wins for the party.

Celerity

(54,650 posts)
18. Jentleson in the NYT: 'supply-side progressivism offers a good guide, embracing limited deregulation'
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 11:41 AM
Jun 2025
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/16/opinion/democrats-interest-groups-majority.html



And of course he praises consevadems with problematic voting records and stances, like Marie Gluesenkamp Perez and Jared Golden.

Ping Tung

(4,370 posts)
21. Gluesenkamp Perez is my rep. I sent her a letter warning her that her votes decide my vote in primary.
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 11:53 AM
Jun 2025

I was glad to see her elected and replace the Republican (who lost because she criticized Trump); I'm appalled by some of her votes with the Republicans.

Raven123

(7,858 posts)
31. What the heck is supply side progressivism?
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 12:38 PM
Jun 2025

I recently read articles critical of Dems using jargon that voters don’t understand. Hope they figure this out.

Celerity

(54,650 posts)
38. it is under the third way, centrist, neoliberal Abundance Agenda umbrella
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 12:53 PM
Jun 2025
SUPPLY-SIDE CHIC: The Gaping Hole in the Center of the Abundance Agenda



The new YIMBYism misses something critical: All the supply in the world won’t help if economic inequality continues to grow.

https://newrepublic.com/article/193346/economic-inequality-keynes-abundance-agenda

https://archive.ph/8LWxb


Construction workers settle their lunch bills next to graffiti scrawled on the wall of a construction site reading "eat the rich" in New York City.

America has a housing affordability crisis. Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson’s Abundance, Yoni Appelbaum’s Stuck, and Mark Dunkelman’s Why Nothing Works argue to varying degrees that land-use restrictions, mostly at the local level, are what created this problem and that easing them will solve it. Build more housing, and it will become more affordable.

Last week I argued that there are sound reasons for local communities to exert some control over their neighborhoods—reasons that the new supply-side liberals are reluctant to acknowledge. Protecting the environment, scaling building size to limit opportunities for crime, and preserving architecture of historical significance are all legitimate goals. People should have some power to make their communities livable, because if your community doesn’t do that, it’s doubtful outside forces will—either commercial or governmental.

I don’t disagree that these defensible goals often act as a smokescreen for indefensible goals—such as the exclusion of lower-income people, or the elimination of racial or ethnic diversity. It happens often enough that supply-side liberals are right to call for greater regulatory flexibility, mostly at the local level, to make it easier to build stuff, and not just housing. We need to make it easier to build all sorts of things, including (to cite a central example in Abundance) a bullet train from Los Angeles to San Francisco.

My main problem with supply-side liberalism isn’t what it contains, but what it omits. To address the housing shortage, to build vital infrastructure, and to address all sorts of other problems, judiciously targeted deregulation will be nowhere near sufficient. We also need to address the demand-side problem of distribution.

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The Abundance Agenda: Neoliberalism's Rebrand



https://prospect.org/economy/2024-11-26-abundance-agenda-neoliberalisms-rebrand/

The past few years have seen a widespread move away from free-market dogma, as policymakers search for new economic perspectives. The election of Joe Biden in 2020 proved to be a crossroads for economic orthodoxy. For the first time in more than a quarter-century, a Democratic administration did not entrust its economic policy exclusively to adherents of Robert Rubin’s philosophy, for whom the solution to any economic issue was usually “Be less of a Democrat.”

Instead, the Biden-Harris administration trusted progressives as a coalition partner, rather than an electoral faction that had to be dealt with, not worked with. The Biden administration attempted true industrial policy for the first time in over a generation, rekindled enforcement of the Sherman Antitrust Act, and didn’t shy away from stimulating the economy when it was foundering. And while Biden’s term has been a rousing success on most macroeconomic measures—the electoral loss turned in part on global inflation and the rollback of the temporary pandemic safety net—progressives’ increasing power within Democratic politics has caused some moderates to become enraged that they’re now expected to settle for the position of senior partner, and denied near-total control.

Enter the “abundance agenda,” an attempt to generate new messaging for a new political era in which neoliberalism has fallen rapidly out of favor. The term has been floating around for years, but has more recently become a rallying cry for a whole array of deregulatory causes. The abundance agenda has also offered shelter to effective altruists, who have been searching for a flag to rally around that isn’t associated with one of the largest frauds in world history. The Biden administration has started to usher in a post-neoliberalism, with more heterodox ideas competing for acceptance. Abundance is neoliberalism repackaged for a post-neoliberal world.

What exactly abundance adherents believe varies, of course, but there are a number of broad precepts: building more housing, producing more energy, and fostering more technological innovation. None of these are objectionable goals; the differences with progressives arise, largely, in how to get there. Abundance starts from a “growth above all” mindset. The agenda’s advocates hate residential zoning laws—which, contrary to what they frequently imply, is something they have in common with us and most progressives—but also detest the National Environmental Policy Act, support fracking, oppose tenant protections, and are often deferential to the policy preferences of Big Tech.

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hamsterjill

(17,663 posts)
22. Honestly?
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 11:57 AM
Jun 2025

I want a "think tank" comprised of the following individuals to tell the party which direction to go, and what to do:

Bill Clinton
Hillary Clinton
Barack Obama
Joe Biden
Al Gore
Bernie Sanders
AOC
Jasmine Crockett
Kamala Harris
Tim Walz
Pete Buttiegieg [sorry, I can never spell Pete's name correctly!]
Erik Swalwell
Ted Lieu
Jamie Raskin

Hell, I might even like to see some input from George W. I absolutely despised him as President, but I've come to have a better opinion of him post Presidency, and at least he did NOT shake Trump's hand at the Carter funeral.

And anyone else that these individuals want to include. I want to see old ideas (that won) contrasted with new ideas. Put these people all in a room and have them devise a plan, and then let that plan be debated and discussed. It would be an initial start, at least.




yardwork

(69,466 posts)
23. Bring back Howard Dean and the 50 state strategy.
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 12:03 PM
Jun 2025

Run a Democrat in every race in every district, and have consistent messaging focused on the economy and improving economic opportunity for everybody.

Make big promises. Be consistent. Focus on the economy.

Ursus Rex

(489 posts)
63. Another controversial opinion is that the 50 State Strategy paid off hugely in 2008
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 02:08 PM
Jun 2025

There were some gains in 2006, and if nothing else we did stave off complete control (like now), but the Party ditching Howard Dean because they felt Obama was the end-all was a huge mistake. IMO, of course.

awesomerwb1

(5,114 posts)
26. Better late (20 years) than never I guess
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 12:27 PM
Jun 2025

The Democratic party is like a monster with many heads. All the heads have their own ideas and criticize each other in public instead of voicing their disagreements in private. There is hardly ever a unified message. A ridiculous amount of energy and even resources is spent disagreeing with each other. It doesn't help.

Have a bloody private convention where you can voice your disagreements and then come up with a strong playbook that works in incredibly turbulent times before it's too late. And nobody leaves until it gets done. Black smoke means we're working on it, white smoke means it's done.


unblock

(56,228 posts)
32. They can start by rejecting their own "interest group" frame
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 12:43 PM
Jun 2025

The right wing has long divided us with this tactic. We defend rights for all of us. But when the victim is gay, they say we're defending gay rights. When the victim is black, they say we want "special" rights for black people, and so on.

They insist we want rights for this group or that group when what we want is full rights for everyone.

That democrats are just a bunch of "special interest groups" is a rotten frame to begin with. We shouldn't "reject interest group agendas", we should reject the right-wing frame that the rights we want and the interests we as a party represent are "special" or restricted to "groups". The only group we are focused on is everyone!

UpInArms

(55,075 posts)
33. Here's a clue stick for the think tank
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 12:44 PM
Jun 2025

Support a media that supports democratic ideals

They let more than 1000 weekly newspapers die .. they let Sinclair buy up all the radio stations

They cratered to corporate ownership of all major media

Sheesh

ETA

https://www.niemanlab.org/2022/06/the-u-s-is-losing-an-average-of-two-weekly-newspapers-a-week/

The U.S. has lost a quarter of its newspapers since 2005 and is losing two a week (almost all weekly papers) on average, according to a new report from Northwestern University’s Medill School. In all, 2,500 American papers have disappeared since 2005.

Penny Abernathy, the author of the report and a Medill School visiting professor, writes:

Even though the pandemic was not the catastrophic “extinction-level event” some feared, the country lost more than 360 newspapers between the waning pre-pandemic months of late 2019 and the end of May 2022. All but 24 of those papers were weeklies, serving communities ranging in size from a few hundred people to tens of thousands. Most communities that lose a newspaper do not get a digital or print replacement. The country has 6,377 surviving papers: 1,230 dailies and 5,147 weeklies.


DSandra

(1,723 posts)
46. This just further supports the idea that Democrats stand for nothing
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 01:05 PM
Jun 2025

And this has been a part of the Democratic Party's problem since Hillary.

Bettie

(19,784 posts)
60. Oh, I get it now
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 01:55 PM
Jun 2025

a bunch of strategists and consultants will take in ENORMOUS fee income from the donations that we make to the party.

lees1975

(7,097 posts)
66. OK. But will enough people pay attention to this to matter?
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 02:12 PM
Jun 2025

It doesn't seem that will be the case.

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