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Aviation Pro

(15,574 posts)
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 09:30 PM Jun 2025

One man's opinion why Ukraine and Zelenskij are succeeding

Ukraine, led by a man who rose to the occasion, is outflanking the Russians on the battlefield and diplomatically with Western Europe; this in spite of the fact that Motherfucker TACO is trying to give away the country to his master, Putin.

But there's one other element that hasn't been considered until I read about Operation Spiderweb, the Russian people. Although Ukrainians are fluent in Russian their accent gives them away almost immediately; it would be damn well impossible to set up the logistics of such an audacious move without assistance to move the infrastructure of the attack into hide locations until the plan was ready to be executed.

And the reason why the Russians may be more of an asset than we know? Because 70% of them are sick and fucking tired of that warped, demented, criminal midget and his war, his putting their sons through this meat grinder, and his bullshit and they want their country back.

That's my theory, time will tell.

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One man's opinion why Ukraine and Zelenskij are succeeding (Original Post) Aviation Pro Jun 2025 OP
I had the exact same thought. Could not be done without Russian help. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #1
It also suggests help from captured Russian soldiers /nt bucolic_frolic Jun 2025 #2
I don't know anything about Eastern Europe dialects and accents, Ilsa Jun 2025 #3
Ukraine is writing a new chapter in art of war. Duncanpup Jun 2025 #4
Ukraine is not fighting the last war Aviation Pro Jun 2025 #5
I think we were top notich until Trump took over. ananda Jun 2025 #8
A real world military laboratory. OAITW r.2.0 Jun 2025 #13
Interesting. What a way to start laying the foundation for a coup. Buckeyeblue Jun 2025 #6
Yes, I was wondering how Ukraine managed all the logistics... ananda Jun 2025 #7
They probably went through Kazakhstan and Mongolia to reach the far out bases. GoCubsGo Jun 2025 #10
That's good to know. ananda Jun 2025 #15
Putin has pulled a lot of soldiers for his cannon fodder AllyCat Jun 2025 #18
I think so, too. OAITW r.2.0 Jun 2025 #9
Until he was deposed they were ready for a burst of democracy under Drunk Yeltsin Aviation Pro Jun 2025 #11
I feel sorry for the people in russia. SheltieLover Jun 2025 #12
Helping Ukraine is helping themselves. OAITW r.2.0 Jun 2025 #14
Absolutely! SheltieLover Jun 2025 #16
Now if Ukraine could stop losing territory every month... WarGamer Jun 2025 #17
Ukraine is fighting a war against a giant Keepthesoulalive Jun 2025 #21
The war will stop when Ukraine attacks the property and businesses of Russian leaders and oligarchs. 3Hotdogs Jun 2025 #19
Think you may be right Picaro Jun 2025 #20
According to what I saw in several reports, they used an established niyad Jun 2025 #22

Irish_Dem

(81,242 posts)
1. I had the exact same thought. Could not be done without Russian help.
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 09:32 PM
Jun 2025

Seems obvious doesn't it? And also obvious what it means.

You nailed it.

Ilsa

(64,362 posts)
3. I don't know anything about Eastern Europe dialects and accents,
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 09:36 PM
Jun 2025

but considering the goods had to be transported 2500 miles through enemy territory, I can't help but think Russians turned a blind eye to the drivers, etc.

Aviation Pro

(15,574 posts)
5. Ukraine is not fighting the last war
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 09:45 PM
Jun 2025

But adapting to the fluidity of today's modern battlefield. I hope our training centers are taking note.

(But then again, we were training the Ukrainians up until the beginning of the invasion).

ananda

(35,140 posts)
7. Yes, I was wondering how Ukraine managed all the logistics...
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 09:49 PM
Jun 2025

so far inside the country. I was also thinking they had help
from Russians who are tired of Putin.

GoCubsGo

(34,909 posts)
10. They probably went through Kazakhstan and Mongolia to reach the far out bases.
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 10:10 PM
Jun 2025

Not to mention that there's a whole lot of nothing between Ukraine and western Russia. People out there probably don't think twice when they see trucks drive by.

AllyCat

(18,839 posts)
18. Putin has pulled a lot of soldiers for his cannon fodder
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 11:16 PM
Jun 2025

From those and other regions. Many of the dead have been from the outer reaches of Russia, not St Pete or Moscow. I can imagine the aggrieved families lining up to help destroy Putin the monster.

OAITW r.2.0

(32,133 posts)
9. I think so, too.
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 10:10 PM
Jun 2025

The Russian people got a taste of freedom under Gorbachev, but Putin killed that idea.

Aviation Pro

(15,574 posts)
11. Until he was deposed they were ready for a burst of democracy under Drunk Yeltsin
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 10:12 PM
Jun 2025

Unfortunately, he was drunk.

WarGamer

(18,613 posts)
17. Now if Ukraine could stop losing territory every month...
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 10:41 PM
Jun 2025

What was the last month and year the occupied territory got SMALLER?

Keepthesoulalive

(2,301 posts)
21. Ukraine is fighting a war against a giant
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 12:22 AM
Jun 2025

They are showing courage and resilience, I just wish my country was doing the same. We are in no position to criticize their sacrifice when we are afraid to sacrifice not watching our favorite news show.

3Hotdogs

(15,362 posts)
19. The war will stop when Ukraine attacks the property and businesses of Russian leaders and oligarchs.
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 11:32 PM
Jun 2025

When they see their wealth and property go in the shitter, then they will have motivation to get rid of Puttie.

Picaro

(2,393 posts)
20. Think you may be right
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 11:39 PM
Jun 2025

There has been significant evidence of internal Russian resistance that is aiding Ukraine for some time.

Hope it continues.

niyad

(132,429 posts)
22. According to what I saw in several reports, they used an established
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 12:36 AM
Jun 2025

trucking company, one that has been in business for years, for at least some of the operation. Makes sense.

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