Trump "won" - Election fraud - time for it to be exposed

[SupportSanity]

There is a group that has been analyzing the voting data from 2024's election where Trump "won".
The group is comprised of statisticians and data analysts.
It looks like they have analized enough data and have decided to go public with their results.
They are giving it a month and then the big reveal.

https://www.tiktok.com/@anonymous_resurfaced/video/7509212312469916958

https://electiontruthalliance.org

‪@electiontruth.bsky.social‬

[speak easy]

1. I can't think of a worst time to push

the CTs that 2024 was another 'stolen election'.


When we win in 2028 the Magats will be saying the same thing - and saying - you did it too - last time.

Get out and about on June 14, not wasting time on Stolen Elections shite.

[k_buddy762]

5. For the rest of America's life

*every* election will be "stolen" in the eyes of the side whose candidate did not win.

Its all so very tiresome.

[questionseverything]

30. The American people have a right to oversee the counting of votes

That can only be done with a hand counting of paper ballots in full public view

Just curious, why do you trust the 1%ers that own the voting machine companies to count your votes? We see they have no problem starving people, tossing them out in the cold street or denying them healthcare, so why do you think 1%ers rigging voting software systems crosses the line?

[k_buddy762]

34. I don't recall ever stating

that trust the "1%ers that own the voting machine companies."

If I told you how I feel about voting I'd be thrown overboard, but trust me, it doesn't include voting machines.

[questionseverything]

36. If you are willing to trust the voting machines "output "

That suggests you trust the companies and their owners that make them

If you are saying something different, please say it plainly

[k_buddy762]

50. I thought I did

No matter the outcome, the losing side will always call "stolen election" or "shenanigans" for the rest of eternity.

[CrispyQ]

37. There's no way we're going back to hand counted ballots.

NYC is going to hand count over 8 million ballots? Just the president or the senators & reps too? What about all the other candidates & issues they vote on? Do we hand count those too? They've done tests & there are big error rates with hand counted ballots.

My state has paper ballots that are mailed out to the majority of voters & the ballots are then run though a tabulator at the county level. The counties perform bipartisan audits on the counts. While nothing is absolutely tamper proof or fool proof, there are ways to secure the process. --on edit:: I'm more concerned about the disenfranchisement of tens of thousands of voters than actual digital theft.

I totally believe there were a ton of democratic men or democratically leaning men who wouldn't vote for a woman. Not that they voted for Trump, but they left it blank. Maybe they saw the enthusiasm & thought Harris had it in the bag. IDK, but misogyny is still huge in this country, more so than other developed nations.

[questionseverything]

41. Ballots are counted precinct by precinct, it's not like anyone is running all 8 million ballots through the same scanner

Personally I would be happy with hand counting the top two federal races as long as recounts were easily available for other races if a problem came up

What we have now is a “ trust me “ system, you have to guess at what happened last election because you aren’t allowed to see it being counted

Curious, what state are you from?

[CrispyQ]

46. We have mail in voting so most ballots are collected at the elections division or at drop off bins, & then transferred.

Even before mail in voting, at the precinct level the ballots were only counted to match the number of ballots to the poll book. The actual tabulating of candidates & issues was done at the county level. The first time I voted my ballot was a punch card run through a digital counter. We aren't going back to hand counted ballots.

https://www.coloradosos.gov/pubs/elections/auditCenter.html

on edit: This is how it was done where I vote. States have different laws & methods. One of my arguments for standardized voting is that it's undemocratic that voting in Colorado is easier than voting in other states.

[questionseverything]

48. So , to be clear, you don't believe in hand counting under any circumstance?

[CrispyQ]

49. No. What I said is I don't believe we're ever going back to hand counted ballots. We're just not.

Short of a massive die off, of course. Then maybe.

[questionseverything]

53. So no hand recounts for any reason?

It seems like with the nightmare *rump is putting us through handcounts would be worth while ( besides the fact that democracy demands transparency)

[Wiz Imp]

82. Hand Counting has a significantly higher error rate than machine counts

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/hand-counting-ballots
Hand Counting Ballots
Nearly all election jurisdictions across the country use voting machines to count ballots because they are more accurate, faster, and cheaper than counting all ballots by hand.

https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/hand-counting-ballots-explained/
Election experts oppose hand-counting ballots. Here's why.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/hand-counting-votes-proven-bad-idea
Hand-Counting Votes: A Proven Bad Idea
Efforts to replace modern voting machines with hand-counting are based on false conspiracy theories. But the machines do still need to be protected and kept up to date.

https://time.com/7071959/election-2024-hand-count-ballots/
Why Hand Counting Ballots Could Create an Election Disaster

A study from Rice University estimated that hand counts got the results right just 58% of the time. Machine-based voting has an error rate of less than 1%, according to two decades of research.

It would actually be easier to "steal" an election if it were mandated all votes must be counted by hand. It's why the Democratic Party file lawsuits against the State of Georgia to prevent a law being enacted that required just that.

Despite all the evidence against the practice, Georgia’s top elections board is plowing ahead with a scheme to count by hand every ballot in a state of more than 8 million registered voters.

The frankly ludicrous decision came about after the five-person board found itself overrun by election deniers. The boneheaded move has drawn bipartisan criticism, including Vice President Kamala Harris and Republican Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp.

This is exactly why Democrats on Sept. 30 filed a lawsuit to block this potential folly. It’s got a good chance to proceed, as even Georgia’s Republican Secretary of State says the election board waited too long to institute such a dramatic change of rules.

While shutting down Georgia’s hand count plan could spur conspiracy theories that the vote is rigged, keeping it in place could do even more damage to trust in the state’s elections. Despite right-wing conspiracy theories about inaccurate voting machines and a desire to go back to paper-and-ink ballots, the perils of hacking or tinkering are just not justified. Fueled by disinformation and sheer cynicism, Trump’s belief that the 2020 election was stolen simply has no basis in fact.

[questionseverything]

84. I could understand errors if we were counting 50 races in precincts with thousands of voters

That’s not what I am advocating for

Germany hand counts their paper ballots because it is the only way the average citizen can oversee the count…

[Chemical Bill]

96. I absolutely believe that machines can be more accurate...

if there is no ulterior actions by the private company that programs the counts.

[brush]

65. Let 'em prove it, like this groud hopefully will reveal.

If '24 was stolen, it needs to be exposed so it will nuch harder for it to happen again.

[Blue Full Moon]

72. He proved it for you

They always blame then do it themselves. Musk and Trump both admitted to it. Also remember no more voting my beautiful Christians.

[FemDemERA]

2. Why wait a month? If they know something, share it.

[sarisataka]

9. Very good question

I recall various people who made claims of private conversations with Trump admitting to various schemes. The people making the claims toured the talk shows to get repeated 15 minutes of fame however the alleged recordings were never provided.

[questionseverything]

29. If you would read the information they have already presented tons of evidence

[multigraincracker]

3. He pissed off Elon,

so now it’s time for him to come clean on election fraud. He got him elected with $ and hacking the election. He can now bring him down.

[proud patriot]

40. Fingers crossed

I was thinking this very thing .

[malaise]

4. I have never believed he won all those swing states

I remain doubting malaise. Pretending to trust these effin criminals is stupidity.

[Dave says]

8. Agreed. n/t

[NJCher]

11. the one time trump ever told the truth

was that he won the election.

This is what you would have to believe if you thought he won fairly.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

97. Me either

That had to be the fat felon's idea. "Make me win every swing state, Elon!"

IMO, the "conspiracy theory" is that the orange criminal DIDN'T cheat. Also, stupid.

[tritsofme]

6. Did they tap Sidney Powell to deliver the presentation at the "big reveal"?

I hear she’s looking for work!

[Chemical Bill]

7. The evidence they have shown so far...

is, as they say, enough to warrant hand counted recounts.

I don't understand why people don't want a check on automated ballot counting.

[Blue Full Moon]

73. What they have been finding

Fits with the findings of the Commission on Federal Election Reform. Those wonderful counting computers. The tabulators are easily hacked.

[Irish_Dem]

76. Musk and his kid hackers are good at stealing, manipulating data.

[Blue Full Moon]

86. Bingo

[MichMan]

88. Elections are controlled by the individual states

Nothing is preventing any state on its own from doing a complete hand count if they so desire.

Other than the significant expense of course.

[Chemical Bill]

91. Republicans...

fought tooth and nail to prevent hand counted recounts in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan in 2016. They succeeded. Even though the recounts were paid for.

[MichMan]

92. So what? This is 2025

All three of those states have Democratic Governors and other elected officials.

What is stopping those three, and for that matter the other 47 states, from having a hand recount if they wanted?

[Chemical Bill]

95. For one thing...

I believe that only a candidate can request a recount. Then the candidate has to pay for it. This is why some of us are disappointed that Vice President Harris didn't request a recount. I would have pitched in some money.

[Mountainguy]

10. These are the exact

Same arguments the Rs made about 2020.

We. Lost.

[NJCher]

12. not the

"exact same." Not even close.

Did they have statisticians? No. They had Rudy.

Did they have data analysts? No. They just lied with no back up.

[tritsofme]

14. Nope, it is exactly the same. They had only grifters and conspiracy theory nut jobs.

No different for the 2024 election denier crowd.

[NJCher]

15. you are absolutely wrong

Here's just one of the bios for someone on the Smart Elections team:

Mr. Smith serves on the Technical Advisory Team for SMART Elections. He was featured in a PBS News Hour segment on “What election officials think about paper ballots and voting machines.” He is best known for his proof of concept research examining election system vulnerabilities. It was covered by Bloomberg in its Cyber Security Segment and he was profiled in a cover story by Bloomberg Businessweek. He is currently a Tennessee Elections Commissioner, as well as a software developer who works in analytics and innovation.

Smith has developed expansive business and technical skills throughout his career. In government, as a liaison between elected officials and IT, Smith was a software developer maintaining City of Memphis applications for the Traffic Violations Bureau, Memphis Police and Internal Affairs.

He developed applications for lender auditing at First Tennessee Bank, and production metrics at International Paper.

The other bios are just as impressive, if not more.

Just curious: what's in it for you to lie about this?

[tritsofme]

18. I'm glad that impresses you?

Trump’s people had randos with credentials, spouting nonsense too.

Why is it that the real experts on Republican election shenanigans, like Marc Elias, have rejected these ridiculous conspiracy theories?

Is Kamala complicit in the steal? The cover-up? If it’s so obvious, why didn’t her team, with limitless resources, figure it out?

[NJCher]

20. show me just one

"rando" with credentials.

I'm asking the questions here. Not you.

[tritsofme]

21. No, I'm definitely not going to go through Trump's team

to find an equivalent random person with vaguely relevant credentials.

But I certainly understand why you don’t want to engage on why someone like Elias rejects your silly conspiracy theory!

[NJCher]

22. Elias does not reject it

get current.

And you can't provide one with relevant credentials.

Discussion over. You lose.

[tritsofme]

23. Is that actually even true? Has Elias really moved his position from the below? That would be news.

Elias: There was not fraud…

[questionseverything]

28. I didn't understand Elias claiming no fraud when

There were hundreds of bomb threats called in that stopped voting in democratic precincts over and over.

Or why he wouldn’t mention the voting machines going down in Apache county keeping people waiting for hours.

The voting machine companies have proprietary software that doesn’t allow anyone to verify how the votes are counted…

[tritsofme]

47. Only conspiracy theory mongers and grifters are "claiming fraud"

The fact that actual credible individuals in this field, like Elias, don’t give these ridiculous conspiracy theories any credence, ought to give you pause when embracing this sort of nonsense.

[questionseverything]

51. Elias is a lawyer not a programmer

Voting machines and reporting systems are just computers and a good hacker can make a computer give any result they want

Volkswagon and now tesla have both been caught altering mileage through software same thing can easily happen with voting software

Exactly what is your argument for believing in results no citizen got to oversee? Besides the insultingly conspiracy theory thing and the insulting grifter thing?

[tritsofme]

55. Sidney Powell or any other Trump grifter could have delivered that exact same post word-for-word

Four years ago.

Why do you suppose folks like Elias, or even Harris herself, have not embraced these conspiracy theories?

[questionseverything]

57. You don't debate in good faith, you don't address any points I make

Why don’t you explain why you believe in software programming no citizens are allowed to oversee

But ty for the bump

[tritsofme]

58. I don't debate the finer points of 9/11 trutherism or QAnon stuff either. This is the same type of nonsense

[questionseverything]

59. Al franken's recount took 8 months but he won

According to you though that should not have happened?

[tritsofme]

62. lol, a complete non-sequitur. Franken has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion.

[questionseverything]

63. Ummm the machine count said he lost, he filed for a handcount and won

Accurate, transparent results are exactly what I am talking about

[tritsofme]

64. There was not widespread fraud found. It was a very close election

and all of the proper laws were followed.

There was no state in 2024 that was as close as the Franken race, but just the same, all laws regarding recounts were followed.

Talking about Franken is completely irrelevant.

[questionseverything]

66. The difference is now, for example Wisconsin does not require hand counting even for a recount

Hillary lost Wisconsin by about 22,000 votes, Harris lost by just under 30,000 votes

That’s less than 7 votes a precinct (average) and some of those precincts literally have hundreds of undervotes

As long as we rely on computers and electronic software systems we will never really know if we won or not, democracy demands transparency

[tritsofme]

67. So were Governor Evers and AG Kaul (both Democrats), just ignorant that an election was stolen out from under them?

Because they are really bad at their jobs?

Or were they complicit in covering it up too?

[questionseverything]

69. Idk but if I was going to guess I would say they are afraid of people like you who think transparency is unimportant

[tritsofme]

70. So you are positing that they "know" the election was stolen but are scared to do or say anything?

That would necessarily mean they are complicit in the “cover-up”

[questionseverything]

71. Don't try putting words in my mouth

I’m not saying anyone “knows “ the election was stolen


My point is always the same, we, the American public deserve open transparent election counts and that can only be done with hand counting paper ballots and a tight chain of custody


Since the brooks brothers riots we have seen republicans trying to stop legitimate election counts and unfortunately for a lot of people that quiets them… then toss in some one calling names and being hurtful that silences more people

No one can see inside the computer

[NJCher]

16. The Dem cases are going forward

Example: Rockland County.

None of their cases went forward. Trump lost 60 cases. No comparison whatsoever.

Snip of what was posted at X:

The Rockland County, NY election interference case has moved forward. The lawsuit by election security and advocacy organization SMART Elections seeks a hand recount on U.S. Senate and White House election races in Rockland County. This could trigger an annulment of the 2024 election results. -
@AP

from Hunter Cullen.

[madville]

25. A county in NY?

That’s not going to change any swing states or even the results in NY, why aren’t they focusing in an area where it might actually make a difference?

One county in a Blue state being sloppy or having defective equipment isn’t indicative of a nationwide election fraud conspiracy. How is that going to trigger a nationwide recount of a certified election and overturn it.

It’s over, this is just false hope.

[NJCher]

35. nope

it clearly says in the reports surrounding it that it could up-end it.

[madville]

38. 6 alleged missing votes in a NY county

Are going to reverse the entire Presidential election? Ok….

Key Findings:

Sworn voter affidavits reveal missing ballots

District 39 (Exhibit A): Nine voters signed sworn statements saying they cast ballots for Diane Sare in the U.S. Senate race. The Rockland County Board of Elections recorded just five votes - a nearly 50% shortfall.

District 62 (Exhibit B): Five voters said they voted for Sare; the Rockland County Board of Elections recorded three - a 40% deficit.

https://www.wjbf.com/business/press-releases/accesswire/1033393/retransmission-2024-presidential-and-senate-results-called-into-question-as-lawsuit-advances/

[NJCher]

43. I can tell

by the way you wrote this that you are not only unfamiliar with the court process but what might happen as a result. Also, you have more reading to do.

Back to the drawing board.

[NJCher]

19. here's another bio for you

Now, go out and find a comparable one from the rw election deniers. If I don't see one, I'll conclude you cannot make your case:

https://electiontruthalliance.org/mebane-pa-working-paper

snip

Dr. Walter R. Mebane Jr. (University of Michigan)
Dr. Walter R. Mebane, Jr. is a leading U.S. expert in election forensics and detecting election fraud. He is a professor of political science and statistics at the University of Michigan.



On May 6, 2025, Dr. Mebane shared an updated version of a working report titled "eforensics Analysis of Three Pennsylvania Counties in the 2024 Presidential Election" with the Election Truth Alliance (ETA) and provided our team with written permission to share it on our website. The working report analyzes the same three counties in Pennsylvania previously examined by the ETA using different methods of analysis.



This page contains three key sections:
High-Level Summary of Dr. Mebane's working report, which was drafted by the ETA team. It is informed by the working report, as well as conversations and written exchanges with Dr. Mebane. It is intended to help communicate his high-level findings to a broader audience.
Expert Overview - "Walter R. Mebane, Jr & eforensics Model" (May 7, 2025) by the ETA Team. Provides a brief overview of Dr. Mebane's key writings on election forensics, as well as a plain-language characterization of his eforensics model.
Mebane's Working Paper - "eforensics Analysis of Three Pennsylvania Counties in the 2024 Presidential Election" (May 6, 2025) by Walter R. Mebane J.r, a working report analyzing Philadelphia, Allegheny, and Erie county results from the 2024 U.S. Presidential election.

[Self Esteem]

13. Literally every argument I've heard is a regurgitation of 2020.

Maybe we're not so different after all.

[Chemical Bill]

17. There is a huge difference.

There were hand counted recounts in 2020 which proved that those states had fair elections. Nothing like that was done in 2024, or 2016 for that matter.

[Mountainguy]

26. And if there were

They would show the same results and it still wouldn't be enough to satisfy the conspiracy theorists.

[questionseverything]

39. Actually in 2020 when Georgia was hand counted thousands of votes were found

Biden still won but votes were found that were not previously recorded

[Chemical Bill]

87. If there were, and the results were the same...

we would still have voter purges in Democratic areas, longer waits in Democratic areas, and those bomb scares that shut polling places in Democratic areas. These are all serious issues that effected the outcome of the election. Without those issues, as well as the Republican corporate media, we would have had a different winner.

However, statistical analysis publicized by Election Truth Alliance suggests that hand counts alone would give a different count, with a different winner. Perhaps the lying media, the crooked state run elections, and the bomb scares originating in Russia, weren't enough to give Trump the victory without programming the tabulators to cheat as well. I would want that possibility to be ruled out so we can concentrate on eliminating the other factors.

[Mountainguy]

93. If frogs had wings.....

[Chemical Bill]

99. I'm sorry that I care so deeply that Republicans win by cheating.

I feel like it has made a big difference in our country.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

98. That's damn insulting.

[RANDYWILDMAN]

68. Sadly not close

The data matters and they data shows a pattern in the swing states and no repubs have never ever had data that says they were cheated !

All the Data says Al Gore won

the SC can go fuck themselves, because they picked a loser and stuck with it.

the data is what matters....

[edhopper]

24. Post again

When and if the reveal anything.

[lees1975]

27. We heard him whine and holler and scream about 2020, and disclose every possible way Trump thought the election

was stolen. He was telling us, over and over and over and over exactly how he was going to steal it in 2024.

We made it hard to come back with the claim, on our side, that he did indeed steal it. Our leadership said "We've got it," but they fell asleep at the wheel. They didn't have it and he stole it.

[Jacson6]

31. Trump won the 2024 election fair and square.

Just like Biden won the 2020 election fair and square.

[Ponietz]

32. Incels and losers cling to conspiracy theories

NOT ONE DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR, SECRETARY OF STATE, OR ATTORNEY GENERAL supports this bullshit. You’re doing exactly what MAGA wants you to do.

90 million people sat on their asses and didn’t vote. This “theory” absolves all the mewling “my vote doesn’t matter” betas.

[questionseverything]

42. I don't understand how you get to call us "incels and losers" without getting a hide

The rules seem to be different from one group to the next

[Ponietz]

44. The vote was rigged!

[questionseverything]

45. After Hillary lost, people begged her to recount Wisconsin

She and her team considered it until they found the ne corner of Wisconsin had practically no paper ballots to count, afterwards she stressed the need for paper ballots everywhere

So i can handle being in tune with what Hillary tried to tell us

[Ponietz]

54. Why do people cling to insidious conspiracy theories?

https://phys.org/news/2025-04-people-conspiracy-theories-subconscious-quest.html


While all people are innately driven to find meaning in their lives, this subconscious desire pulls some people to conspiracy theories and dangerous belief systems.

After an extensive review of psychological research, renowned social psychologist Arie Kruglanski and journalist Dan Raviv show how people's need for 'significance' propels our actions, governs our feelings, and dominates our thoughts in their new book "The Quest for Significance".

"Experts on human motivation contend that all people share the same set of basic needs, and everything people do, try to attain, or avoid is in the service of satisfying one or more of those basic needs," they explain.

"The need for significance and mattering is one such preeminent basic need that all people have."

Drawing on both academic, peer-reviewed research and the personal experiences of the authors, including Kruglanski's childhood in Poland during the Holocaust, the authors explore how this need for meaning can motivate people towards harmful and even violent acts—including believing conspiracy theories. They also suggest that self-awareness is key to how people can avoid becoming susceptible.

The authors spotlight factors that make modern society "fraught with uncertainty," from financial chaos to the Ukraine war, the rise of authoritarians, and global health crises.

[questionseverything]

56. So I guess you think Hillary was?

[Ponietz]

60. I believe the Pennsylvania Secretary of the Commonwealth was hand-picked by Governor Josh Shapiro

I also believe Nevada’s Secretary of State is a Democrat. I believe neither makes a vote tampering claim, and that the OP is harmful to the Democratic Party.

[questionseverything]

61. I believe letting insiders with computer access decide our elections

Hurts democracy

[Cuthbert Allgood]

75. They said incels and losers cling to conspiracy theories.

If you self identify with that statement, that's on you.

[questionseverything]

77. I believe the American people have the right to oversee the counting of their votes

He is saying that makes me a ct?

Let me ask you why wouldn’t we have that right?

As stalin said, “ who votes doesn’t matter, only who counts the votes”

[Cuthbert Allgood]

78. The states did oversee the counting of votes.

No state is reporting errors. No state supports what is in the OP. What the OP posted sounds no different than what we heard from Rudy and Pillow Man.

We don't need to become MAGA 2.0.

[questionseverything]

79. I can tell you haven't read any of the work they have produced

4 swing states all flip for trump and have thousands more votes in the senate races than the presidential races

When there is a high undervote in the top race it should be looked at closely because usually the top ticket gets the most votes with totals falling off as you go down the ballot

But they have gone way past that and dove into neighborhoods, got sworn affidavits about how people voted that prove the results posted are incorrect

And they show every piece of evidence

Not like rudy

[Cuthbert Allgood]

81. Yes. People did look at that.

And the logical explanation has always been that people didn't give a shit about the Presidential race. That they were tired of it. That they disliked both candidates. Occum's razor doesn't point to some conspiracy that this random guy figured out how to game the system. And if he DID figure out how to game it, why didn't he swing some of the other races that would have helped him?

Be better than MAGA.

[questionseverything]

83. So the logical conclusion is, they went to vote on election day,

Stood in line, to not vote for president because they didn’t give a shit and no one should bother looking because “people “ figured that out


Ty for the bump

[Chemical Bill]

89. You're talking about states...

like the gerrymandered ones that let Republicans control the house with a minority of votes, right?

Georgia has a law that any person can challenge any voter's registrations. A handful of people (Republicans) challenged many thousands of voters in Democratic areas, resulting in disqualifications that probably changed the outcome of the vote.

And no state has state employees who program the tabulators that sum up the machine totals. We rely on private companies with proprietary software, so how could the states know to report errors without a hand count?

[kentuck]

33. I found it interesting that Musk wanted to use his SpaceX satellites as air traffic controllers....

...across the country?

If he could communicate with passenger planes computers by satellite, why could he not do the same with voting machine computers?

[Blue Full Moon]

74. Exactly

[chouchou]

52. I go with the scientists. Let the proverbial chips fall where they may.

[Blue Full Moon]

85. Tabulators. Those vote counting computers.

Last edited Thu Jun 5, 2025, 02:33 AM - Edit history (1)

Musk attacked EVMs that they can be hacked. He said "Anything can be hacked." He got into with India's Chandrasekhar. Chandrasekhar said " where they (USA) use regular computer platforms to build internet connected voting machines." "Indian EVMs are custom designed, secure and isolated from any network or media."
Trump signed an EO on 2/18/25 to "reign in" independent agencies. The Federal Election Commission in charge of campaign finance laws and the Election Assistance Commission that is in charge of EVMs intrigrity.
As a side the first EVMs came out in 1976. 1998 Trump was being investigated for Russian ties. The Taj Mahal casino broke anti-money laundering rules 106 times. The gamblers who cashed out $10,000 or more in a single day. The settlement was the largest fine the federal government gave a casino for violating the Bank Secrecy Act. They were laundering money using slot machines.
Ivanka secured trademarks for EVMs. She applied in 2016 and got them in 2019.
In 2024 Tina Peters was sentenced to 9 years of prison. She allowed a man to misuse a security card to access Mesa County election system and being deceptive about the man's identity. 3 counts of attempting to influence a public servant. 1 count of conspiracy to commit criminal impersonation. 1st degree official misconduct, violation of duty and failing to comply with the secretary of state. The man was affiliated with Mike Lindell. James Baker had brought up these concerns in the Commission. The issue was setting up the machines for the upcoming election what was focused on was the Big Lie.
Dr. Hugh Thompson, Florida Institute of Technology, " Tabulators are EASILY hacked, both before and after the election. Votes can be changed in as little as 60 seconds if someone has access to the machine. Therefore no, one other than poll workers should be allowed into the room where the Tabulator is located. Physically and securely transport the data from where the votes were cast to where they are counted rather than using a modem. Memory cards should be treated with the same security as a box of ballots or a Brink's truckload of money. Unlike transporting money there is No Way to know the content of the memory cards as they leave the polling stations, nor does the person receiving the data know what to expect so any tampering on the way cannot, in any way, be detected."
Dr. Avid Rubin, John Hopkins University, "Because of the myriad problems possible at every stage of the electronic voting process and the possibility that the software in the Tabulator might be faulty or even rigged, it is a good idea to reconcile the precinct counts by hand to check that the numbers that come out of the Tabulator,at the end of the process, match the actual precinct totals." Dr. Rubin led a team that analyzed code from Diebold and found flaws that basic training in secure code would prevent. " The only way vendors are going to produce auditable machines is if they are forced to." "We still don't have a process for ensuring that people writing the code of those machines know what they are doing, or are not malicious."
James Baker, "The greater threat to most systems is not from external hackers but from insiders who have direct access to the machines. Software can be modified maliciously before being installed into individual voting machines. There is no reason to trust insiders in the election industry any more than in other industries such as gambling, where sophisticated insider fraud has occurred despite extraordinary measures to prevent it."
Back to Trump's 106 times of money laundering.

[BlueTsunami2018]

90. Part of the reason they came so hard with the "stolen election" bullshit after '20 is so we'd have to refute hard.

And after pushing back so hard on them, we’d look like hypocrites and idiots for saying the same thing about them when they actually did it.

Piss might be a dope but the P25 people and others behind this loooooong term fascist push are not. They know exactly what they’re doing and they’re very good at it.

[ForgedCrank]

94. I think even

Alex Jones would be proud of this effort. Q is apparently alive and well.