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piddyprints

(15,060 posts)
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 11:25 AM Jun 2025

I renewed the registration on my Hybrid car today.

It's not a plug-in hybrid, so I didn't get a tax incentive for last year when I bought it... although it escapes me why it wasn't included in that. Somehow it is included in the $100/year extra Trump tax on hybrid and electric vehicles. Dang, but when they want to do something fast to hurt people, they're right on it!

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CousinIT

(12,276 posts)
1. I have a 2007 gas-powered car. But my MAGA brother has a plug-in car. He will get hit...
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 11:32 AM
Jun 2025

...with the $250/year tax on his plug-in car.

Of course, he'll blame the Democrats.

Pfft.

hlthe2b

(112,868 posts)
2. Yeah. Years ago when I first got my Prius hybrid, emissions inspections* were not required, but...
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 11:38 AM
Jun 2025

Colorado changed that when R's bitched about losing gas taxes for highway repairs/upkeep. Not a big deal, though and I agree that hybrid owners should support road construction as well. But the Trump PENALTY sucks.


*I've been told by Colorado Emissions that they have had exactly zero hybrids fail emissions inspection unless they had had damage (wreck or vandalism) to the system.

piddyprints

(15,060 posts)
4. As it is,
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 11:43 AM
Jun 2025

our county adds $55 fee on top of the regular registration fee. I don't drive much, so I'd say I support road construction enough. Our county has terrible roads, so I'm not even sure what I'm paying for.

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CousinIT

(12,276 posts)
8. HA! My MAGA brother lives in Tennessee. I hope he enjoys his MAGA-infested state. nt
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 01:16 PM
Jun 2025

sl8

(17,010 posts)
9. Not just TN, it appears that 39 states now have EV registration fees.
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 01:34 PM
Jun 2025

Also, we have plenty of DUers that live in Tennessee and those other states.

Grain of salt - I didn't do a very thorough search, but :

https://klrd.gov/2025/01/17/states-fees-for-electric-and-hybrid-vehicles/

States’ Fees for Electric and Hybrid Vehicles

January 17, 2025

piddyprints

(15,060 posts)
13. I'm in that MAGA-infested state.
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 04:06 PM
Jun 2025

I hate it here, but have no options. And I vote in every election and always vote for Democrats. If there are none on the ballot, I write one in. But I get to suffer along with the idiots who keep voting for MAGAts.

piddyprints

(15,060 posts)
11. OK, well, "surprised" is the operative word here.
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 04:03 PM
Jun 2025

I didn't know TN had a separate $100 fee. The bill doesn't even itemize it. The total is simply $100 more than the total of the itemized things (registration fee, county wheel tax, mailing fee, processing fee, and online fee). So we get to look forward to another $100 next year?

sl8

(17,010 posts)
14. Sometime in the next year, yes, assuming that part of the House bill passes.
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 04:41 PM
Jun 2025

Unless the Senate has a problem with that section, it looks like states will have until the end of next fiscal year, Sep. 2026, to implement the fee before they're penalized

Here's the relevant section in the House bill that just passed:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/1/text

SEC. 100003. REGISTRATION FEE ON MOTOR VEHICLES.

(a) In General.--Chapter 1 of title 23, United States Code, is
amended by adding at the end the following:
``Sec. 180. Registration fee on motor vehicles.
``(a) In General.--The Administrator of the Federal Highway
Administration shall impose for each year the following registration
fee amounts on the owner of a vehicle registered for operation by a
State motor vehicle department:
``(1) $250 for a covered electric vehicle.
``(2) $100 for a covered hybrid vehicle.
``(b) Withholding of Funds for Noncompliance.--The Administrator
shall withhold, from amounts required to be apportioned to any State
under section 104(b), an amount equal to 125 percent to the amount
required to be remitted under subsection (c)(2). The Administrator
shall withhold the amount on the first day of each fiscal year
beginning after September 30, 2026, in which the State does not meet
the requirements of subsection (c).

``(c) Collection and Remittance of Fee.--
``(1) Collection of fee.--A State motor vehicle department
shall--
``(A) incorporate the collection of the fees
established under subsection (a) into the vehicle
registration and renewal processes administered by such
department, so long as such fees are imposed for each
year in which the fees are required; or
``(B) obtain approval from the Administrator to
establish an alternate means of compliance for the
collection of such fees that is acceptable to the
Administrator.
``(2) Remittance of fee.--Not later than 30 days after the
last day of each month, a State motor vehicle department shall
remit to the Administrator the balance of the total fee amounts
collected under this section in the preceding month less the
portion reserved for administrative expenses under subsection
(e).
``(d) Fee Assessment.--The amounts specified in subsection (a)
shall be increased on an annual basis to account for the rate of
inflation each fiscal year in accordance with the Consumer Price Index
for All Urban Consumers of the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
``(e) Administrative Expenses.--In any fiscal year in which a State
is in compliance with this section, such State may retain an amount not
to exceed 1 percent of the total fees collected under this section for
administrative expenses.
``(f) Applicability of Fees.--The fees imposed under paragraphs (1)
and (2) of subsection (a) shall terminate on October 1, 2035.
``(g) Definitions.--In this section:
``(1) Covered electric vehicle.--The term `covered electric
vehicle' means a covered motor vehicle with an electric motor
as the sole means of propulsion of such vehicle.
``(2) Covered motor vehicle.--The term `covered motor
vehicle' has the meaning given the term `motor vehicle' under
section 154(a) but excludes a motor vehicle that is a covered
farm vehicle or commercial motor vehicle (as such terms are
defined in section 390.5 of title 49, Code of Federal
Regulations).
``(3) Covered hybrid vehicle.--The term `covered hybrid
vehicle' means a covered motor vehicle propelled by a
combination of an electric motor and an internal combustion
engine or other power source and components thereof.''.
(b) Implementation of Certain Processes.--
(1) Implementation.--The Administrator of the Federal
Highway Administration shall provide grants to State motor
vehicle departments to implement a process to carry out section
180 of title 23, United States Code.
(2) Funding.--Out of any money in the Treasury not
otherwise appropriated, $104,000,000 is to remain available
until September 30, 2029, beginning in the first fiscal year
following the date of enactment of this Act, for grants under
paragraph (1).
(3) Eligible amounts.--Each State motor vehicle department
may receive not more than $2,000,000 under this subsection.
(c) Regulations.--The Administrator shall issue such regulations
and guidance as are necessary to--
(1) carry out section 180 of title 23, United States Code
(as added by this Act); and
(2) establish a process for the timely and accurate
remittance of fees collected under such section through an
electronic method.
(d) Report.--Not later than 2 years after the date of enactment of
this Act, the Administrator shall submit to the Committee on
Transportation and Infrastructure of the House of Representatives and
the Committee on Environment and Public Works of the Senate a report on
the status of the implementation of section 180 of title 23, United
States Code (as added by this Act).
(e) Clerical Amendment.--The analysis for chapter 1 of title 23,
United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following:

``180. Registration fee on motor vehicles.''.





mitch96

(15,663 posts)
7. Is it a Fed fee or county fee? Poor babies ain't getting enough gas tax I guess.. My friend up in Suffolk county
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 11:54 AM
Jun 2025

NY says she did not see any extra hybrid fee when she registered her hybrid...
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piddyprints

(15,060 posts)
12. Yeah, my mistake I guess.
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 04:04 PM
Jun 2025

It's not listed as county fee, which is $55. It's just $100 over the total of the itemized fees. So it's a bit of a mystery.

maxsolomon

(38,215 posts)
15. Electric Cars don't pay Gas Taxes. Gas Taxes maintain roads.
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 04:57 PM
Jun 2025

The registration fee makes sense as a way to have Electric vehicles pay for resources they use.

Applies, to lesser degrees, to both Plug-in Hybrids and Hybrids.

piddyprints

(15,060 posts)
16. I still buy gas.
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 05:07 PM
Jun 2025

Just not as much. And I don't drive much. But our roads suck, so it's not clear my taxes are doing anything.

sl8

(17,010 posts)
17. The fee seems quite a bit more than gas buyers pay, though.
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 05:24 PM
Jun 2025

My rough calculations:

The proposed fee for EVs is $250/year ($100 for hybrids).

The federal gasoline tax is $0.183/gal., as of July 2024 (diesel is higher). The owner of a gasoline powered car would need to buy ~ 1,366 gallons of gas per year to pay $250 tax/year. The average annual gasoline use in the US is much closer to 500 gal./year (most gasoline use in the US is for cars/SUVs/light trucks):

https://afdc.energy.gov/data/10308

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