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senseandsensibility

(25,679 posts)
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 03:52 PM Jun 2025

So I abhor Musk as much as the next guy or gal on DU

but his latest tweet (which I read on bluesky) could teach us a little bit about messaging. "Call your Senator, Call your Congressman, Bankrupting America is NOT ok! KILL THE BILL" he just tweeted.

I'm well aware that he only wants to kill the bill because he thinks it hurts him financially in some way (and I don't care why he thinks that), and that he wants to cut Medicaid MORE, as well as all programs that actually help people. I get it.

But the simplicity of the message, and not getting bogged down in the details is something we could learn from.

How about Kill the Bill Before It Kills You?

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So I abhor Musk as much as the next guy or gal on DU (Original Post) senseandsensibility Jun 2025 OP
I agree with him and I posted pretty much the same this morning Peacetrain Jun 2025 #1
Good post! senseandsensibility Jun 2025 #2
Thanks!!! and love this post too.. Peacetrain Jun 2025 #4
Maybe he's finally come to his senses? bif Jun 2025 #3
Exactly. yorkster Jun 2025 #5
Highly unlikely that he suddenly has a conscience. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #6
No. This is just the ketamine kicking in. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2025 #23
Gotta run it through the focus groups first. BannonsLiver Jun 2025 #7
The murder bill. Most of the pork is Musk. Blue Full Moon Jun 2025 #8
What a two-faced shit. Baitball Blogger Jun 2025 #9
I think this is nothing more than kabuki theater Javaman Jun 2025 #10
He is publicly distancing himself to sell more Teslas, speak easy Jun 2025 #26
That is my impression too. magicarpet Jun 2025 #33
I also think he's trying to say, "look, I'm not with him. you can love me again!" Javaman Jun 2025 #35
"He LIED to me" - People will believe that but speak easy Jun 2025 #36
Not kabuki misanthrope Jun 2025 #30
Yes, exactly... nt Raine Jun 2025 #37
As far as Musk is concerned I can't get past the children he starved to death. GoodRaisin Jun 2025 #11
Yes I do as well. 😡 benfranklin1776 Jun 2025 #27
He has a following, like a cult leader Renew Deal Jun 2025 #12
Kill the Bill Before It Kills You is perfect. yorkster Jun 2025 #13
Politics makes strange bedfellows. Bluetus Jun 2025 #14
This has nothing to do with messaging JI7 Jun 2025 #15
With all those recent government contracts he's snagged dickthegrouch Jun 2025 #16
Good point senseandsensibility Jun 2025 #31
I don't give 2 craps why Musk feels this way, but I'm glad he did it. NH Ethylene Jun 2025 #17
I actually read a decent one from Schumer today senseandsensibility Jun 2025 #24
the bill passed 215 to 214. SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2025 #18
EV incentives are being cut. That's all he cares about paleotn Jun 2025 #19
I think he wants to kill the bill because his Fifi's are hurt. dchill Jun 2025 #20
Kind of funny (in a sick way) senseandsensibility Jun 2025 #21
Musk is just about to find out customerserviceguy Jun 2025 #22
Both of these sadistic idiots are cult leaders. slightlv Jun 2025 #25
They both think customerserviceguy Jun 2025 #38
People should be protesting the BBB! It's a frickin' abomination! benpollard Jun 2025 #28
IOW, CALL YOUR CONGRESSCRITTER RIGHT FUCKING NOW! madinmaryland Jun 2025 #29
THUNE is already roping in the slackers for a vote next week UTUSN Jun 2025 #32
Not for me MorbidButterflyTat Jun 2025 #34
Love it! Joinfortmill Jun 2025 #39
I think Trump is lying... WarGamer Jun 2025 #40

bif

(27,294 posts)
3. Maybe he's finally come to his senses?
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 03:55 PM
Jun 2025

Nah! He's just not getting as big of a cut of the spoils as he anticipated.

Irish_Dem

(82,711 posts)
6. Highly unlikely that he suddenly has a conscience.
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 04:11 PM
Jun 2025

Yep, he didn't get what he wants in the bill.

Cuthbert Allgood

(5,339 posts)
23. No. This is just the ketamine kicking in.
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 06:10 PM
Jun 2025

Plus something in the bill probably hurts him. Or the voices in his head are telling him it hurts him. He has no senses to come to in that drug addled brain.

BannonsLiver

(20,906 posts)
7. Gotta run it through the focus groups first.
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 04:13 PM
Jun 2025

What if someone in a special interest group were to be offended?

Blue Full Moon

(3,687 posts)
8. The murder bill. Most of the pork is Musk.
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 04:17 PM
Jun 2025

He said it. Stop the bill and cut out mister oink oink. In fact save America put 50% tax on billionaires. Cap them at 100,000,000. Problem solved.

Javaman

(65,999 posts)
10. I think this is nothing more than kabuki theater
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 04:27 PM
Jun 2025

the simpering whiny spoiled rich kid vs the whiny narcissistic psychopath.

we are the ones that will suffer. they will remain rich.

magicarpet

(19,496 posts)
33. That is my impression too.
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 06:52 PM
Jun 2025

Musk is on a grand public relations tour to mend and repair his brand so his wallet is not decimated.

Rather than the greedy Capitalist- his best route right now is to repair and better manage the public perceptions of Elon Musk.

eLoon has become a champion of the common every day voter/man. Now doesn't that new persona make you want to rush out and buy a brand new Tesla or two ?

Say something nice about eLoon on Twitter and he will give you $500,000.00. How is that for fence mending - Kabuki Theater ?

Javaman

(65,999 posts)
35. I also think he's trying to say, "look, I'm not with him. you can love me again!"
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 07:43 PM
Jun 2025

his cry baby tour LOL

speak easy

(12,598 posts)
36. "He LIED to me" - People will believe that but
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 07:49 PM
Jun 2025

will they be gullible enough to believe that Musk didn't know who was getting into bed with in the first place? Musk is lying.

GoodRaisin

(11,098 posts)
11. As far as Musk is concerned I can't get past the children he starved to death.
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 04:43 PM
Jun 2025

I hate him no matter what he tweets. He is a horrible human being.

benfranklin1776

(7,026 posts)
27. Yes I do as well. 😡
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 06:33 PM
Jun 2025

This spaced out Nazi will go down as one of history’s most infamous mass murderers for his illegal and unconstitutional decimation of USAID. Total indifference to human life. 🤬 He should spend the rest of his vile days penniless and in a small cell for his crimes against humanity.

That said I agree with the point of the original poster and others who echoed it: our messaging needs to be equally crisp and effective in getting to the heart of the matter “Stop this killer bill as your life depends on it” or something to that effect as the earlier posters proposed. Nothing wrong with using effective tactics in pursuit of a just and moral outcome, saving the lives of those who will die if it passes. ✊🏼

Renew Deal

(85,417 posts)
12. He has a following, like a cult leader
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 04:44 PM
Jun 2025

So some will take him up on it. In this case, I think the messenger is more important than the message.

yorkster

(3,974 posts)
13. Kill the Bill Before It Kills You is perfect.
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 05:03 PM
Jun 2025

I was listening to Schumer this am and he talked about agreeing with Musk this one time. He missed the opportunity to loudly message that BTW Musk only cares about himself and his bottom line and gives not one damn about the consequences of this terrible bill for millions of people.

Bluetus

(3,150 posts)
14. Politics makes strange bedfellows.
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 05:29 PM
Jun 2025

And only now, I realize how prudish and hyper-sensitive people have become about sexuality. There have always been queer people throughout human history. I am sure there have been many atrocities leveled against gay people throughout the years. But it seems to me, the past 50 years has taken it to a whole new level. After all, the Bible discusses Sodom and Gomorrah without blushing. It barely even pauses to observe the same sex activities.

And then we have the origin of this popular phrase about politics (in the title of this post). That apparently came from Shakespeare in The Tempest (2:2), "Misery acquaints a man with strange bedfellows." Coming from Shakespeare's lips (or pen), there is no notice of the same-sex reference (man ... fellows), because it just wasn't a big deal in that time and place. But today, we are so terrorized of our own sexuality that we have to remove Harvey Milk's name from a ship? WTF. When do we start burning witches again?

https://www.npr.org/2025/06/04/nx-s1-5422936/hegseth-harvey-milk-navy-ship-name

 

JI7

(93,908 posts)
15. This has nothing to do with messaging
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 05:33 PM
Jun 2025

its about him being someone that gets attention for anything he says or does.

dickthegrouch

(4,691 posts)
16. With all those recent government contracts he's snagged
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 05:35 PM
Jun 2025

If the US went bankrupt, he probably wouldn't get paid.
"Rump stiffs another creditor" wouldn't be a surprise to any real business mogul!

senseandsensibility

(25,679 posts)
31. Good point
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 06:45 PM
Jun 2025

Like most "small government" maga, he really just wants all the money in the government for himself.

NH Ethylene

(31,400 posts)
17. I don't give 2 craps why Musk feels this way, but I'm glad he did it.
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 05:43 PM
Jun 2025

And I like the simplicity of the message. You are right. We are too cerebral at times and just need a memorable slogan to penetrate the political noise.

senseandsensibility

(25,679 posts)
24. I actually read a decent one from Schumer today
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 06:26 PM
Jun 2025

Something like "We're all gonna die bill". Not too bad. But the Dems need to pick one and unite behind it.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,441 posts)
18. the bill passed 215 to 214.
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 05:50 PM
Jun 2025

And that's with some seats in the House empty. We have to gain control asap!!

paleotn

(22,849 posts)
19. EV incentives are being cut. That's all he cares about
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 05:52 PM
Jun 2025

That will have a massively negative impact on Tesla, on top of all the brand destruction he's been up to lately. This isn't a broken clock moment. He's covering his own financial ass.

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
22. Musk is just about to find out
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 06:06 PM
Jun 2025

how quickly MAGA will turn against him for dissing Trump. With both of them having such enormous egos, I'm surprised that their little play dates lasted this long.

slightlv

(8,057 posts)
25. Both of these sadistic idiots are cult leaders.
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 06:27 PM
Jun 2025

So, if it comes to Maga vs Tech Bros... let them duke it out. Maybe they'll kill enough of each other to make life better for the rest of us here who believe in equality, diversity, and inclusion... IOW, who believe in being kind and civil to each other.

customerserviceguy

(25,406 posts)
38. They both think
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 03:38 PM
Jun 2025

that they know how to use people. It was inevitable that the current situation came to pass.

benpollard

(261 posts)
28. People should be protesting the BBB! It's a frickin' abomination!
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 06:38 PM
Jun 2025

Our country is going to be over $60 trillion in debt at the end of ten years if we continue on this trajectory!

WarGamer

(18,892 posts)
40. I think Trump is lying...
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 04:12 PM
Jun 2025

Musk has said since 2021 at least that he doesn't need EV credits and in fact... TSLA might do better without them as the credits are helping new EV co's like Rivian, Lucid, Hyundai and VW... kill EV credits and it might kill the new EV makers.

IMHO... kill EV credits and Rivian and Lucid may go under.

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